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June 17, 2012 3:56:28 AM

I was thinking about getting a GTX 670, been waiting forever for the ASUS GTX Direct CU II Top card. I was looking at alternatives for around that price point, I'm considering even Crossfire/SLi setups. I was looking at GTX 480 Sli, but my Corsair TX 750w 80 plus bronze certified would be peaking out with those I think, what do you guys think? Can anyone offer me a solution for around $450 that would give me better performance then a 670/680? and work well with my power supply? GTX 470 SLi?
June 17, 2012 4:14:38 AM

Will my Corsair TX 750w v2 80 plus bronze be able to power 2 gtx 480's in SLi or is there another solution??
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June 17, 2012 4:32:50 AM

Since the 600 series is already out, i'd be a waste to go after older generations at this point. I'd say get a gtx 670, direct cu II top version is the best I have it myself, it outperforms other people's gtx680s in this forum. Check out this thread-
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum2.php?config=tom...

tx750 may cut it too close for a gtx480 sli set up, You need at least a tx850 to be safe. However, the gtx 670 draws way less power than the gtx 480 so your tx 750 would most definitely handle the gtx 670 sli in the future. So, to be more future proof, get a single gtx 670 now and then get another one within a year when the price goes down. Not to mention the cool and quietness of the gtx 670 is unmatched.
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June 17, 2012 4:34:47 AM

Yeah, that's the same answer people have been giving me. What about if I go with EVGA and get a 670 and then I can Step Up in like the new 2-3 months and get something better, like the GK110 that's supposed to come by then.
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June 17, 2012 4:41:03 AM

ye thats because it is the best way you can use your $500. Unless you get a crazy deal that saves you like $200 while giving you similar performance, get the gtx 670.

evga won't be as good as the direct cu II, but it won't be too bad either. Go for it if you want.
gtx700 will be much better than the 600 most likely.
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June 17, 2012 4:43:14 AM

Well getting 2 gtx 480's for around $350 man, I could get them for like around that price range. Plus their performance is reallly nice. But I have been waiting and waiting for the GTX 670 that you had mentioned, the ASUS GTX 670 DC II Top, I want that!
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June 17, 2012 4:46:32 AM

Are the new GK110 supposed to be out by August or?
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June 17, 2012 4:47:06 AM

yeah thats another thing I wanted to mention-

My mate has a dual gtx 480 set up, while he gets more fps than I do, somehow the games feel much smoother on my rig. Even my mate admitted it. There is something unusual about these new keplar gpus. Maybe cause its newer architecture or something idk.

Your case better have good airflow cause the dual gtx480 temps will be around 85 24/7.

i think they will be out by december before the christmas sale
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June 17, 2012 4:49:08 AM

It actually does have good airflow dude, lots of fans and good amount of room, but my Power Supply can't handle them anyway dude, so I'm pretty much given up on them unless I hear otherwise. I may even get a GTX 680 and step up to a GK110 when they come out for cheap.
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June 17, 2012 4:52:58 AM

Oh ok well what about the new Tahiti XT2 7970 basically a 7975, supposed to be better then a GTX 680 stock.
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June 17, 2012 4:59:04 AM

I was also looking at the new MSI Lightning GTX 680 and EVGA Classified GTX 680. So I don't have to SLi by just getting one of these until the new chips.
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June 17, 2012 5:00:12 AM

bigcyco1 said:
I would just buy a Asus 670 DCII Cu TOP
second choice would be http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... if you plan on Sli GTX480 you need to change the coolers which cost 55 a piece


Yeah, I hear you that's the card I've been wanting, but sold out always, but I have my eye on those other two new arrivals coming soon.
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June 17, 2012 5:03:22 AM

on second thought, your tx 750 might be JUST enough to power up the gtx480 sli.
The minimum recommended amp is 60A on 12v rails, your psu has 62A. So your barely meeting the minimum requirement here. Another thing is, you won't be able to overclock and have to deal with higher temps now and there won't be any room for upgrades in the future.
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June 17, 2012 5:06:53 AM

mf2385 said:
I was also looking at the new MSI Lightning GTX 680 and EVGA Classified GTX 680. So I don't have to SLi by just getting one of these until the new chips.


the gtx 680 would cost you way more only to get outperformed by the gtx 670 direct cu II. Not a wise move IMO>
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June 17, 2012 5:07:54 AM

SOO what are you saying?? That's also minimum RECOMMENDED, not required. I wouldn't overclock SLI 480's anyway probably. I can sell them in the future though. But I don't know if it's worth it people tell me GTX 480's in SLi are amazing.
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June 17, 2012 5:10:39 AM

Ok so either get a GTX 670 now or GTX 480's for cheaper then a GTX 670 and get more power with SLI 480's. I may be able to get GTX 480's for like $325-400. Either that or I wait for the new 7975's.
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June 17, 2012 5:13:03 AM

well, for gpus you can ignore the total amount of wattage. What you should look at is how much amps are needed on 12v rail. For gtx 480 sli, the minimum requirement is 60A, and the corsair tx 750 has 62A. So you should be able to power up the dual gtx 480 in your system. But there won't be any room for gpu oc and even the cpu overclocking will be off limit. Yeah they're right, dual gtx480 will give you heaps of raw power compared to any single gpu.
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June 17, 2012 5:16:42 AM

My CPU which is a Sandy Bridge Core i5-2500K (Lower power consumption then older ones) is overclocked with my Corsair H80 Liquid cooling to 4.6 GHz. Will I have to lower it to like 4.1 and lower the Vcore?
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June 17, 2012 5:16:44 AM

mf2385 said:
Ok so either get a GTX 670 now or GTX 480's for cheaper then a GTX 670 and get more power with SLI 480's. I may be able to get GTX 480's for like $325-400. Either that or I wait for the new 7975's.


like I said before, getting a single gtx 670 now and then a 2nd one later on would be the best move to make.
However, you can get a gtx480 dual set up too but I would't spend more than $300 for it. remember gtx 670 in sli would own the gtx 480 sli later on with much lower temps and noise and you can oc your rig quite a bit.

You can wait for the hd7975 if you have got the patience.
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June 17, 2012 5:17:55 AM

mf2385 said:
My CPU which is a Sandy Bridge Core i5-2500K (Lower power consumption then older ones) is overclocked with my Corsair H80 Liquid cooling to 4.6 GHz. Will I have to lower it to like 4.1 and lower the Vcore?


to be honest, it might come to that considering your cutting it too close.
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June 17, 2012 5:17:55 AM

Yeah I know GTX 670 in SLi would beat 480 SLi later on but it would be like more then double the price for a decent amount of fps different but probably not a huge increase.

GTX 480 SLi = $325 or less
GTX 670 SLi = $850 (around there)
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June 17, 2012 5:19:08 AM

I wouldn't mind just going back to Stock VCore and just go to 4.1 GHz with the motherboard OC program that came with my motherboard.
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June 17, 2012 5:24:39 AM

So what's the verdict??
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June 17, 2012 5:35:13 AM

May just wait for the Tahiti XT2 7975 (or whatever it's going to be called) or atleast for the MSI Lightning GTX 680, it's supposed to be a monster card, no 670 will compete with it. I really like the MSI Lightning Series.
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June 17, 2012 5:37:42 AM

its not about what I think. It about what you think. From what I can see, you are leaning more towards the dual gtx 480 set up, I reckon you should go for it. If I was in your shoes, I'd prolly get the gtx 670 cause I like newer technologies, I actually upgraded from a gtx 580 direct cu II and in most of the times the gtx 670 performs about 50% better. tbh you cant go wrong either way. You have all the information you need to decide. So just go for whatever you feel is the best for your needs/budget.
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June 17, 2012 5:40:03 AM

I'd choose the GTX 670.
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June 17, 2012 5:41:59 AM

I don't want to be at peak power for my power supply, have to downclock my CPU and deal with no Overclockability with my video cards. I think I am just going to stay away from the 480's. F it lol. I am just having a hard time waiting for the stupid ASUS GTX 670 DC II Top to come back in stock, if I don't get one by the time the MSI Lightning GTX 680's coming out I will probably just get one of those.
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June 17, 2012 5:44:59 AM

btw my single gtx 670 oc only got 100 point less than my mates gtx 480 dual set up in 3dmark11. I think its safe to assume, the dual gtx670 would hammer dual gtx 480s. And nvidia still hasn't released any drivers that were optimised for the gtx 670. So there is heaps of rooms for improvement.
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June 17, 2012 5:46:36 AM

kinda crazy hah yeah man
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June 17, 2012 5:48:03 AM

bigcyco1 said:
I know a reliable place you can get Asus GTX670-DC2-2GD5 the downside is overpriced $434.99 i just checked they have 8 left in stock http://www.totalpowerpc.com/index.html#ecwid:category=2...


Can get one for even lower on EBAY dude, I want the Top ones from ASUS. They are hand-selected and are the best for overclocking and everything. Been waiting on them for awhile. Also they are better stock then a stock gtx 680, and the only cards to get a score of a 10/10 on Techpowerup.
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June 17, 2012 5:48:09 AM

mf2385 said:
I don't want to be at peak power for my power supply, have to downclock my CPU and deal with no Overclockability with my video cards. I think I am just going to stay away from the 480's. F it lol. I am just having a hard time waiting for the stupid ASUS GTX 670 DC II Top to come back in stock, if I don't get one by the time the MSI Lightning GTX 680's coming out I will probably just get one of those.


good call!
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June 17, 2012 5:49:59 AM

mf2385 said:
Can get one for even lower on EBAY dude, I want the Top ones from ASUS. They are hand-selected and are the best for overclocking and everything. Been waiting on them for awhile. Also they are better stock then a stock gtx 680, and the only cards to get a score of a 10/10 on Techpowerup.
True that ;) 
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June 17, 2012 5:51:11 AM

I didn't want to jump the gun and order one of those without seeing a proper review from the professionals :) 
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June 17, 2012 6:11:05 AM

I will wait for them to come back in stock, or if I can find for a reasonable price. I want this card period, I will wait for it to come in and if not the MSI Lightning GTX 680 when it comes out soon, or the classified GTX 680. 1 of those three!
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June 17, 2012 7:10:05 AM

1 more solution I was looking at the new HD 7770 GHz is a good card, but I can afford HD 7850 in Crossfire! They perform better then an HD 6990, and GTX 680! What do you guys think? For the price of $500!!

I would have room to overclock the HD 7850's quite a bit also! In crossfire they perform around the performance of an HD 6990 but better once overclocked! You only need around a 575w PSU for CFX 7850s!

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm


Here are some benchmarks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BeKb9M5zV0
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June 17, 2012 7:19:57 AM

I wouldn't run Crossfire, I've never had a good experience with it. Microstutter is often a much bigger problem on AMD dual-GPU rigs than on NVIDIA's SLI rigs (Tech Report basically confirms it).

I'll go ahead and ask the question nobody else has, though: what res are you running at?
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June 17, 2012 7:21:25 AM

1920x1080p (full 1080p) I'm coming from a single HD 6870 Black Edition, I used to run a 720p monitor and now since I upgraded my rig, 24'' LED ASUS Monitor for gaming.
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June 17, 2012 7:28:25 AM

Yeah good thread, I mean I'm just waiting for the ASUS GTX 670 Direct CU II Top lol
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June 17, 2012 7:37:09 AM

Go with a single GTX 670. Multi-GPU generally isn't worth the headache, none of the major graphics editors recommend it.
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June 17, 2012 7:38:47 AM

Yeah, I hear that all over the place.
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June 17, 2012 7:57:00 AM

Didnt you already ask this a few days ago?
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June 17, 2012 8:42:48 AM

shamsmu said:
its not about what I think. It about what you think. From what I can see, you are leaning more towards the dual gtx 480 set up, I reckon you should go for it. If I was in your shoes, I'd prolly get the gtx 670 cause I like newer technologies, I actually upgraded from a gtx 580 direct cu II and in most of the times the gtx 670 performs about 50% better. tbh you cant go wrong either way. You have all the information you need to decide. So just go for whatever you feel is the best for your needs/budget.



He can go wrong - If he listens to your poor advice and gets 2x480.

SBM 2010 - Look at the 2000$ machine. Before OC, paired with phenom II 1055t (125w tdp). Look at the results at stock settings.
(Link - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overcloc... )

GPU load only - Over 800W.

The PSU used for this system is 1000W 80 Plus Bronze.

If you want 2x480, replace your current PSU, although I would personally never even consider such hot and power hungry cards, even at 220$.

Also, the reason why 2x480 might perform poorly is the fact that it's dual-gpu. Lately Nvidia has begun optimizing dual GPU configs for smoother experience at the cost of less FPS, guess they have done so only since the 5xx series.

Check this out, interesting vid about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=...
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