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June 17, 2012 1:19:30 PM

Hi!

I want to buy a new graphics card (preferably nvidia) and install it into the following system:

motherboard: MSI G41M-P28 (socket 775)
CPU: intel core 2 quad q6600 @ 2.4GHZ (overclocked to 3GHZ, never tried past that)
RAM: 2x4GB DDR3
the rest is probably irrelevant

so, I'm wondering:

1) Will gtx 670 be bottlenecked by my system, or not?
2) Should I wait for the gtx 660/660ti instead?
3) As for PSU, will this be enough: http://emmi.rs/napajanja-i-dodatni-ventilatori-napajanj... ? (keep in mind that it should be able to withstand overclocking on this PC, as well as the next one (with GPU that I buy now and some i7/AMD equivalent processor))
4) If not, please recommend me another from the same site. (use google chrome translate ;) )

Thank you! :) 

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a b U Graphics card
June 17, 2012 1:25:21 PM

That PSU will do. It's a good one. The GTX 670 will probably be slowed down a bit but it is an awesome GPU you will like it
June 17, 2012 1:26:58 PM

akxpckwb said:
That PSU will do. It's a good one. The GTX 670 will probably be slowed down a bit but it is an awesome GPU you will like it


Thanks for a fast reply.

can I somehow reduce bottleneck to minimum?
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a b U Graphics card
June 17, 2012 1:33:24 PM

I would grab a cheaper card and upgrade the mobo+cpu, you will see higher numbers overall with say an i5 + 7850 rather than a C2Q + 670.

Gaming benchmarks are at the bottom: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=53
June 17, 2012 1:42:34 PM

mouse24 said:
I would grab a cheaper card and upgrade the mobo+cpu, you will see higher numbers overall with say an i5 + 7850 rather than a C2Q + 670.

Gaming benchmarks are at the bottom: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=53


I agree, there's no doubt about it. But doing that is much more expensive: I need to buy a new motherboard and a new processor... (and selling the old ones isn't really easy in here, since internet sale is underdeveloped)

and the difference between 670 and 7850 is not even half of the price of new motherboard and processor.

I'll do mobo+cpu update probably next year around this time...
a b U Graphics card
June 17, 2012 1:47:42 PM

donsrbin said:
I agree, there's no doubt about it. But doing that is much more expensive: I need to buy a new motherboard and a new processor... (and selling the old ones isn't really easy in here, since internet sale is underdeveloped)

and the difference between 670 and 7850 is not even half of the price of new motherboard and processor.


Ah, gotcha, what country do you live in? In the states a 670 is 400+ and a 7850 is 240, a 6950 (same performance as a 7850) is 200.

So even here it will cost you about a hundred bucks more to grab an i5 + mobo, sadly. Do you plan on upgrading the proc any time soon? If not what I would do is grab a 6950 and pocket the change :) 

Edit: didn't see your edit in time.

Edit2: since you are gonna be upgrading in about a year I would grab a single 670 since even a year from now I expect it to still kick ass and take names (heck look at the 480, its still giving some recent cards a run for their money)

Edit3: here is my reasoning to grab a high end card now instead of a mid range card, no doubt you are gonna wish you had that extra performance later once you get a better proc, sure you can crossfire a 7850 in their later but scalability goes up as you get to the higher end cards, so all the more reason go big now and if the 670 isn't holding you over just pop in another later. (but its very doubtful that it wont)
June 17, 2012 1:53:25 PM

mouse24 said:
Ah, gotcha, what country do you live in? In the states a 670 is 400+ and a 7850 is 240, a 6950 (same performance as a 7850) is 200.

So even here it will cost you about a hundred bucks more to grab an i5 + mobo, sadly. Do you plan on upgrading the proc any time soon? If not what I would do is grab a 6950 and pocket the change :) 

Edit: didn't see your edit in time.


there's not new 6950 here, so that's a dead end.

7850 is 29000=$313, and the 670 is 42000=$454
a b U Graphics card
June 17, 2012 1:54:10 PM

Woops I really need to refresh before editting.

Psht wow yeah at those prices, go for it man. 670.
June 17, 2012 1:57:43 PM

mouse24 said:
Woops I really need to refresh before editting.

Psht wow yeah at those prices, go for it man. 670.


You also said
"Edit2: since you are gonna be upgrading in about a year I would grab a single 670 since even a year from now I expect it to still kick ass and take names (heck look at the 480, its still giving some recent cards a run for their money)"

Agreed.

"Edit3: here is my reasoning to grab a high end card now instead of a mid range card, no doubt you are gonna wish you had that extra performance later once you get a better proc, sure you can crossfire a 7850 in their later but scalability goes up as you get to the higher end cards, so all the more reason go big now and if the 670 isn't holding you over just pop in another later. (but its very doubtful that it wont) "

Agreed.

all in all, I'll take the gtx 670. but how can I reduce the bottleneck? I don't want to damage the current cpu by overclocking too much... :|

edit: will this http://emmi.rs/napajanja-i-dodatni-ventilatori-napajanj... be enough to power everything when I get the new mobo+cpu?
a b U Graphics card
June 17, 2012 2:16:41 PM

Hmmm, reducing bottleneck... I don't think there is much you can do. Aslong as your are under the thermal limits of the chip + not going over the max voltage then you should be ok to OC it as much as you like.

Be wary of northbridge/southbridge temps aswell since you are doing this via the FSB and no from a cpu multiplier.

They got it to 3.3 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2007/07/25/overcl...
a b U Graphics card
June 17, 2012 2:19:32 PM

Yes that PSU will be more then enough, its a nice unit by a trusted company.
June 17, 2012 2:20:12 PM

mouse24 said:
Hmmm, reducing bottleneck... I don't think there is much you can do. Aslong as your are under the thermal limits of the chip + not going over the max voltage then you should be ok to OC it as much as you like.

Be wary of northbridge/southbridge temps aswell since you are doing this via the FSB and no from a cpu multiplier.

They got it to 3.3 http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2007/07/25/overcl...


temps won't be a problem, I have a HAF 912 plus case and I'm getting a good CPU cooler.

I'll read the guide, and get it as far as it can.

Thanks akxpckwb and mouse 24!

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