Is this a good build

[Iamjoshful]

Hello,
I am thinking about building a pc. I went on pcpartpicker.com and built one:
[strike]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e4y3[/strike]
I was wondering if there are any suggestions or recommendations that you have for me.

Update: [strike]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e7gf[/strike]
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e92P

 

[geofelt]

What will you be using this pc primarily for?

I think you can do better, either for a gaming pc, or for a video editing pc.

As to parts:

The case is unnecessarily expensive.
The psu may be of iffy quality.
For gaming, a GTX560 could be stronger.
lga2011 is not a good value motherboard, and $250 is way too expensive.
The H60 cooler is not necessary, particularly with a cpu that will not be overclocked.
Do you really need a sound card? Today's motherboards already have HD sound.

 

[strife_ff7]

What are you going to be doing with it starting from most important to least?

 

[Iamjoshful]

I will be using it for primarily gaming and nothing else really.
Do you have any recommendations for specific parts (Cpu, motherboard, graphics)?

Also, I really like this case:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004UE1W9K/?tag=pcpapi-20

Is that a good value/is it a good case?

 

[strife_ff7]

The most important part of a gaming build is the video card so If you don't have a budget then get this

cpu - your pick
cpu cooler - your pick
mobo - your pick
ram - g.skill ripjaw 1866(only because it $2 more than the 1600) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455
hdd - your pick
ssd - cucial 128gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-148-442
video card - evga 670 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787
case - the second one
psu - antec 620w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371059


Now if you want to stay in the same price range then this

cpu - i5 3570K $220 after $10 gift card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
cpu cooler - your pick $62
mobo - asrock extreme4 $143 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
ram - g.skill ripjaw 1866 $48 w/ promo code http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231455
hdd - your pick $78
ssd - samsung 830 $100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147163
video card - evga 670 $408 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130787
case - antec nine hundred $109 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
psu - antec 620w $75 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371031

 

[Iamjoshful]

Do I need a CPU cooler? If so, is this good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099


I added the first link and took your suggestions, except I chose a modular PSU, but same watts
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e6jk

also, at the bottom it says the motherboard may need a BIOS update, is that difficult to do?

 

[Why_Me]

This build allows you to add another one of those GTX 670's later on in SLI.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008 $99.99 - $89.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING $10 off w/ promo code EMCNBNC32, ends 8/13
Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite grey and black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case

http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-M12II-750-BRONZE-Power-Supply/dp/B00607JN1E/ref=sr_1_21?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1344051564&sr=1-21 $119.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
SeaSonic M12II 750 SS-750AM 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Semi-modular Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1030095 $346.98 save: $18.00
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099 $34.99 - $29.99 after mail-in rebate FREE SHIPPING
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231544 $43.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAO

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-AD-7280S-0B-Internal-Drive-Black/dp/B0057FRTPW/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1344214515&sr=1-1 $16.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Sony AD-7280S-0B 24x SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST1000DM003/dp/B005T3GRNW/ref=pd_cp_e_2 $80.14 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-163 $99.99 FREE SHIPPING $10 off w/ promo code NESAM10, ends 8/8
SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Builder/dp/B004Q0PT3I/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_b $91.15 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121637 $399.99 FREE SHIPPING
ASUS GTX670-DC2-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

or...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125423 $399.99 FREE SHIPPING
GIGABYTE GV-N670OC-2GD GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $1,334.40 *not including shipping, rebates, and promo codes


http://www.corsair.com/pc-cases/carbide-series-pc-case/carbide-series-400r-mid-tower-case.html/ <----- another look at that case

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme4/ <----- another look at that board along with a link to the latest bios update

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z77-express-ivy-bridge-benchmark,3254.html <----- that board in a review w/benchmarks done here on Toms

http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme4_review,1.html <----- another review of that board w/benchmarks

 

[Xlerator]

I suggest this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e6C9

 

[Why_Me]

I suggest this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e6C9

650w is cutting it close to the bone for dual 670's in SLI, no SSD in there, and the 3570K out performs the 2500K in gaming.

 

[JackNaylorPE]

Drop to the 500R case, it's cheaper but a significant step above the 400R.....$120 ....saves $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519&IsNodeId=1&Description=500r&bop=And&CompareItemList=-1|11-139-010^11-139-010-TS%2C11-139-009^11-139-009-TS

I don't see the LGA 2011 socket helping you in gaming, in fact it's a step down. Here's a top end MoBo w/ 5 year warranty and oodles of OC features in a combo w/ the 3570k for $452....plus $10 promotional gift card w/ purchase, ends 8/12 ....saves about $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1030056

The H60 doesn't stand up to the better air coolers.....

Phanteks $80 Good for 7-10C below the Hyper 212 and has 5 year warranty ....cost ya $18 extra
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709001

Hyper 612 or Scythe Mugen 3 .... $50 good for 5-7C below the hyper 212.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103106
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185175

Barracuda has a chinsy 1 year warranty

$99 for 5 years $10 off w/ promo code EMCNBNG22, ends 8/9 ... costs ya $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

Skip the sound card, the on board MoBo sound is fine.....saves $30

The GFX card is way under the Quality Level of ya other components. ..... so far ya saved $217 up to now so putting that into ya budget gives ya about $397 to spend on a GFX card.....

GTX 660 Ti which should hit shelves in a week for $250ish
GTX 670 TOP which is $430

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670_Direct_Cu_II/33.html
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4869/nvidia_geforce_gtx_660_ti_2gb_reference_video_card_review/index14.html

If ya chasing extreme OC's on the CPU and twin GPUs Id use an 850 watter i.e. Corsair HX850..... at moderate OC's the TX 750 V2 or XFX Core Edition 750 would do fine.

 

[Iamjoshful]

I don't necessarily plan on have dual GPUs
so are you saying I should get the 650 Ti?
and some of you are comenting on the first build, the update is here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e6jk

Is the power enough??

 

[Why_Me]

I don't necessarily plan on have dual GPUs
so are you saying I should get the 650 Ti?
and some of you are comenting on the first build, the update is here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e6jk

Is the power enough??

You don't want to use a Z68 board for an Ivy Bridge cpu. You want a Z77 board. If you don't want the option to add another card which I'm guessing you don't by looking at that psu, then look at the Asrock Z75 Pro3, Asrock Z77 Pro3, or Asrock Z77 Pro4. The last two of those boards combo with the 3570K to save a few dollars. One of the reasons I never use PC Part Picker. It doesn't factor in the combo's and you can save some serious money with those if you hit it just right on a build. Also I wouldn't put too much faith in the Cooler Master psu. Look at the PC Power & Cooling 600w modular psu or the XFX 550w. And double check the fan configuration on that Corsair 650D to check the airflow and cooling. Corsair had some cases that were more for a water cooling set up and those cases are not only expensive but they have horrible airflow and are more or less a hot box.

 

[Iamjoshful]

okay, so the asrock Z77 for the motherboard, what combo are you talking about?
And the 650D was used in a Newegg video and the guy used the built in fans that came with the case, so I assume its for air cooling
Edit: And what is the difference between the Asrock Z75 Pro3 & Pro4
Edit2: Here is the current update http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e7gf
I removed the CPU cooler and fixed the PSU. Do i need a CPU cooler if I dont plan on overclocking? I know there is a stock one

 

[Why_Me]

okay, so the asrock Z77 for the motherboard, what combo are you talking about?
And the 650D was used in a Newegg video and the guy used the built in fans that came with the case, so I assume its for air cooling
Edit: And what is the difference between the Asrock Z75 Pro3 & Pro4
Edit2: Here is the current update http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e7gf
I removed the CPU cooler and fixed the PSU. Do i need a CPU cooler if I dont plan on overclocking? I know there is a stock one

Keep the cooler just in case. Even if you never decide to over clock that cooler runs a lot quieter than the stock cooler and does a great job for a $30 - $35 cpu cooler. That and it comes with a small tube of excellent thermal compound.

Not a lot of difference between those three boards. The Pro4 has a 4+2 phase for over clocking and those other two boards have a 4+1. You can't go wrong with any of those three boards imo. The Asrock Pro3 Z75 is $85 + free shipping @ newegg atm.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/index.asp?s=1155 <----- there's a better look at those boards. Always make sure to use that site to update to the latest bios when you get your board.

Here's that combo.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1030161 $326.98 save: $13.00
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
ASRock Z77 Pro4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Pro4/ <----- another look at that board

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Pro4/?cat=Download&o=BIOS <----- and don't forget to update that board with the latest bios


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-147-163 <----- this Samsung SSD. Quicker write time.

 

[geofelt]

okay, so the asrock Z77 for the motherboard, what combo are you talking about?
And the 650D was used in a Newegg video and the guy used the built in fans that came with the case, so I assume its for air cooling
Edit: And what is the difference between the Asrock Z75 Pro3 & Pro4
Edit2: Here is the current update http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e7gf
I removed the CPU cooler and fixed the PSU. Do i need a CPU cooler if I dont plan on overclocking? I know there is a stock one

Your build looks good now.
I would make only two changes:

1) I would still add an aftermarket cpu cooler such as the cm hyper212($30) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
for three reasons:
a. While the stock intel cooler will work, the small fan will spin up and get noisy when under load. A tall tower type cooler with a slow turning 120mm fan will be quieter.
b. Since you have a "K" cpu, you are going to want to overclock it a bit sooner or later. It is trivial to raise the stock multiplier from 34 to 43. How high you can go and how easy it is will be partly determined by how good your cpu cooling is.
c. The intel pushpin nounts are notoriously tricky to install properly. The backplate mount of the hyper212 is easier to install, and is more secure.

2) There is really no value in ram faster than DDR3 1600 for app performance or FPS. Read this:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3
And, tall heat spreaders can interfere with some cpu coolers. I suggest this ram, which happens to be a bit cheaper too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546

 

[Iamjoshful]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e92P
Okay, so just to be sure, is the 600W power supply enough?
Also, Is overclocking really easy? I've never done if before,


On the build, I changed the Ram, SSD, and re-added the CPU cooler

 

[Why_Me]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e92P
Okay, so just to be sure, is the 600W power supply enough?
Also, Is overclocking really easy? I've never done if before,


On the build, I changed the Ram, SSD, and re-added the CPU cooler

It looks good !

 

[geofelt]

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/e92P
Okay, so just to be sure, is the 600W power supply enough?
Also, Is overclocking really easy? I've never done if before,


On the build, I changed the Ram, SSD, and re-added the CPU cooler

Perfect!

Corsair is a good quality brand. The GTX670 only needs a 500w psu, and 550 for a GTX680. You are good there. It is not wrong to overprovision the psu a bit. I will only use the wattage that is demanded of it. Running at less than max capacity will keep it's cooling fans at a lower speed.

Intel sells a "K" intending that it should be overclocked. It really is very easy if you will be conservative about it.
I would not use the oc options of the motherboard since they can be a bit aggressive.
Instead, in the bios, just raise the multiplier from 34 in baby steps until you feel comfortable. 40-43 should be ok. Leave the voltage options on "auto"
That may not be the maximum or optimum OC, but it will be easy and safe.
Stress the cpu by running prime95 with rounding checking. Monitor the temperatures using realtemp or whatever.
I would not be alarmed if your hottest core(they will differ) reaches 70c. The max is 105c.
In normal usage, it will be lower than that.
If the cpu should ever get too hot, it will throttle itself for protection.
While testing, run cpu-z. It will show you what multiplier you are currently running at.
During periods of little activity, do not be alarmed if it drops to 16, that is normal.
Let it run long enough to reach maximum temperatures. You should get NO errors.

Enjoy...

 

[Iamjoshful]

Okay, thanks for all your help