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June 17, 2012 9:15:48 PM

Hello community.
I am eyeing a new build from newegg.
I have all my parts chosen except my motherboard.
I am a nvidia fanboy so nvidia sugesstions only plz
I am looking at the evga nvidia gtx 560 ti 2gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And the Evga nvidia gtx 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
could i get feedback from multiple people telling me which is better for gaming,all catagories?
Thank you in advance

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June 17, 2012 9:20:34 PM

the 570 is a better card overall. the 560ti is actually a crippled 570, or a 570 that didn't make the cut as a 570.
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June 17, 2012 9:27:41 PM

vmem said:
the 570 is a better card overall. the 560ti is actually a crippled 570, or a 570 that didn't make the cut as a 570.


No, that's is not the case.....the 570 is actually the card that has had problems for nVidia


1. They have had yield issues with the 570 to the extent that a 570 that had one failed SM (15 on 570; 14 on 560-448) and was re-released as a 560-448.

http://legitreviews.com/article/1790/1/

2. The PCB and VRM on the reference cards was a bit weak resulting in a lotta fried cards before most manufacturers came back with non reference versions with tweaked PCB's and beefier VRM's

http://www.overclock.net/t/929152/have-you-killed-a-570...




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June 17, 2012 9:27:52 PM

HeHe - funny - we're all linking Recon-uk's favorite;-) Nothing crippled in this card - only thing is it is not very efficient.
-Bruce
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June 17, 2012 9:30:26 PM

vmem said:
if you have good case air flow and something like a 600w PSU or above, I would recommend this card for best performance (and price>

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

yes recon that's the 480 :p 

i do have good case flow and cooling.
So the gtx 480 trumps all? Gtx 560 ti and 570?
Also, I would like to eventually sli, any mobo suggestions, cheap plz?
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June 17, 2012 9:30:51 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
No, that's is not the case.....the 570 is actually the card that has had problems for nVidia


my bad, thought he was looking at a 560ti-448 core...

speaking of which, why isn't he lookint at a 448core 560ti???

anyway, 480 still gets my recommendation for Nvidia
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June 17, 2012 9:31:06 PM

Marmour said:
I am a nvidia fanboy so nvidia sugesstions only plz


EVGA is one of those manufacturers that had problems with the VRM on their 570's.....Asus and others went iup to 8 phase VRM's but EVGA stuck with the reference 6 phase on all but their classified model.

As for the 560 Ti, EVGA is a bit brash asking $250 for a stok clock 822 Mhz card. These are both at 900 Mhz and have been reported stable to 1070 Mhz ... $250 for 2GB; $210 for 1 GB model

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17

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June 17, 2012 9:33:29 PM

Marmour said:
i do have good case flow and cooling.
So the gtx 480 trumps all? Gtx 560 ti and 570?
Also, I would like to eventually sli, any mobo suggestions, cheap plz?


if you plan to eventually sli, I recommend against the 480 as it's a monster of a card, drains tons of power, and spits out a lot of it as heat. running single card is fine, sli can get really hot... I would wait a guy named recon-uk to show up and ask him about sli480 as that's the set-up he has and he seem to have it running really well.

what are you running on the rest of your system? since you said new build I'm assuming Ivy bridge CPU? anyway, I need to know what you're putting in it in order to recommend a mobo
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June 17, 2012 9:48:32 PM

vmem said:
if you plan to eventually sli, I recommend against the 480 as it's a monster of a card, drains tons of power, and spits out a lot of it as heat. running single card is fine, sli can get really hot... I would wait a guy named recon-uk to show up and ask him about sli480 as that's the set-up he has and he seem to have it running really well.

what are you running on the rest of your system? since you said new build I'm assuming Ivy bridge CPU? anyway, I need to know what you're putting in it in order to recommend a mobo

im putting in Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
NZXT Guardian 921 RB 921RB-001-BL Black SECC steel chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
I really just want raw power for my gaming, i might not sli for 1-2 years if i dont have to
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June 17, 2012 9:56:40 PM

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I am here, ask away :D 

hi recon-uk
i was doing a comparison between an evga 560 ti 2gb and a evga super-clocked 570
Then vmem told me about the 480.
My question is if it is better, graphics wise than the other 2 graphics cards,
If it is what cheap mobo would be good for putting them in sli, dont mind power or heat,
my specs are already in the thread below
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June 17, 2012 10:04:48 PM

Marmour said:
im putting in Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
NZXT Guardian 921 RB 921RB-001-BL Black SECC steel chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
I really just want raw power for my gaming, i might not sli for 1-2 years if i dont have to


1). you'll want a higher wattage PSU for future SLI. 500W is the standard for a single video card system, and I'm not sure enough for the 480 alone (not even talking about sli). corsair's a great name in PSU, so I would just go for a higher wattage corsair

2). the corsair vengeance memory are great (own them myself), but the big heat spreaders are a pain and not that useful. get the low profile ones if you want corsair vengeance, other wise get G.skill memory.

3). this board should do for your needs, open box for super cheap:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

otherwise get this guy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 17, 2012 10:17:15 PM

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I guess i should help... :p 

The 480... ohh the good old 480..

Yes it trumps the 570 and 560Ti, why you ask?

I will tell you.

570 Specs:

Cuda cores: 480
ROP's: 40
Bus width: 320-BiT
Memory 1280MB
Price: $270+

GTX 480 Specs:

CUDA cores: 480
ROP's: 48
Bus width: 384-BiT
Memory: 1536MB
Price: $220+

thx so much, next question i know you have a 480 sli setup.
Could you please give a couple suggestions on mobos for 480 sli, cheap plz
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June 17, 2012 10:18:09 PM

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I can stop you hitting these temps, but you will need to listen carefully :) 


<-- I'll listen too, want to xfire 7970s lol
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June 17, 2012 10:34:30 PM

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This will be great for both setups, leave a slot between the cards for maximum cooling:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

would this mobo work for sli:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
also i chose this psu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and i switched to this ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or is this better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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June 17, 2012 10:40:19 PM

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You will need 800watts+ for SLi.

That motherboard can do SLi, but not my recommendation for SLi cooling...

Ram is fine.

That PSU is perfect for a single GPU only.

alright thx but forget sli for now, i can get any mobo but i need a min of 600 wats or maybe less?
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June 17, 2012 10:59:15 PM

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$10 cheaper than what? another 570?

thx for everything and i have settled on this build, could you please review
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...(this is just in case i want to buy another gtx480 in he future because it supports sli,plus it supports ocing for my 2500k!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
if there are any compatibility issues please tell me, thx
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June 17, 2012 11:06:39 PM

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Seems good, are you left with anything over from the budget?

it depends what is it and is it mandatory
because as you see in my profile im only 13 so my parents are paying for half off the computer
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June 18, 2012 1:43:49 AM

somebody should sticky this page, it has a lot of good information on motherboards, psu's, and graphic cards+comparisions
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June 18, 2012 2:12:57 AM

Marmour said:
it seems like a good case but my two concerns is that it has only two fans plus does it have enough space for 1 maybe two 480s?
do you have any personal experience with this case?
what about this case, seems nice
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


get the case recon linked you

newegg had terrible description for that case, it actually has 5 fan slots if you look at the photos carefully

the real specifications are listed on thermaltek's website
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1390&ID=19...
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June 18, 2012 2:24:58 AM

vmem said:
get the case recon linked you

newegg had terrible description for that case, it actually has 5 fan slots if you look at the photos carefully

the real specifications are listed on thermaltek's website
http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1390&ID=19...

thx but final question, can it fit a gtx 480?
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June 18, 2012 3:40:04 AM

Marmour said:
thx but final question, can it fit a gtx 480?

yup, it should

and recon wouldn't have recommended it if it didn't
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June 18, 2012 3:45:46 AM

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June 18, 2012 3:46:28 AM

vmem said:
yup, it should

and recon wouldn't have recommended it if it didn't

thx so much for being the first one in and the last one out of this thread.
:love: 
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June 18, 2012 4:10:04 AM

Marmour said:
thx so much for being the first one in and the last one out of this thread.
:love: 

haha, thanks for best answer, though I feel bad since many people contributed... shame you cant award multiples. recon's probably asleep since he's in the UK and it's like 5 or 6am over there

anyway, best of luck with your build. you're lucky to get into PC building so young, it's a very educational and rewarding process :) 
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June 18, 2012 4:17:08 AM

vmem said:
haha, thanks for best answer, though I feel bad since many people contributed... shame you cant award multiples. recon's probably asleep since he's in the UK and it's like 5 or 6am over there

anyway, best of luck with your build. you're lucky to get into PC building so young, it's a very educational and rewarding process :) 

thx haha, i would definitly give a best answer alos to recon but you were the one to answer my final question,
all in all good night to you and everyone., also honorary best answers for recon-uk and Gotham's Finest.
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June 18, 2012 3:30:49 PM

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Good luck mate!
And yeah, it was my bed time :p 

thank you too
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