Graphics card battle

[Marmour]

Hello community.
I am eyeing a new build from newegg.
I have all my parts chosen except my motherboard.
I am a nvidia fanboy so nvidia sugesstions only plz
I am looking at the evga nvidia gtx 560 ti 2gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130683
And the Evga nvidia gtx 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130620
could i get feedback from multiple people telling me which is better for gaming,all catagories?
Thank you in advance

 

[vmem]

the 570 is a better card overall. the 560ti is actually a crippled 570, or a 570 that didn't make the cut as a 570.

 

[vmem]

if you have good case air flow and something like a 600w PSU or above, I would recommend this card for best performance (and price>

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759

yes recon that's the 480

 

[JackNaylorPE]

the 570 is a better card overall. the 560ti is actually a crippled 570, or a 570 that didn't make the cut as a 570.

No, that's is not the case.....the 570 is actually the card that has had problems for nVidia


1. They have had yield issues with the 570 to the extent that a 570 that had one failed SM (15 on 570; 14 on 560-448) and was re-released as a 560-448.

http://legitreviews.com/article/1790/1/

2. The PCB and VRM on the reference cards was a bit weak resulting in a lotta fried cards before most manufacturers came back with non reference versions with tweaked PCB's and beefier VRM's

http://www.overclock.net/t/929152/have-you-killed-a-570-no-recent-deaths-buy-some-570s/550

 

[dish_moose]

HeHe - funny - we're all linking Recon-uk's favorite;-) Nothing crippled in this card - only thing is it is not very efficient.
-Bruce

 

[Marmour]

if you have good case air flow and something like a 600w PSU or above, I would recommend this card for best performance (and price>

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759

yes recon that's the 480

i do have good case flow and cooling.
So the gtx 480 trumps all? Gtx 560 ti and 570?
Also, I would like to eventually sli, any mobo suggestions, cheap plz?

 

[vmem]

No, that's is not the case.....the 570 is actually the card that has had problems for nVidia

my bad, thought he was looking at a 560ti-448 core...

speaking of which, why isn't he lookint at a 448core 560ti???

anyway, 480 still gets my recommendation for Nvidia

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I am a nvidia fanboy so nvidia sugesstions only plz

EVGA is one of those manufacturers that had problems with the VRM on their 570's.....Asus and others went iup to 8 phase VRM's but EVGA stuck with the reference 6 phase on all but their classified model.

As for the 560 Ti, EVGA is a bit brash asking $250 for a stok clock 822 Mhz card. These are both at 900 Mhz and have been reported stable to 1070 Mhz ... $250 for 2GB; $210 for 1 GB model

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=100006662&isNodeId=1&Description=Aus+900MHz+560+Ti&x=0&y=0

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17

 

[vmem]

i do have good case flow and cooling.
So the gtx 480 trumps all? Gtx 560 ti and 570?
Also, I would like to eventually sli, any mobo suggestions, cheap plz?

if you plan to eventually sli, I recommend against the 480 as it's a monster of a card, drains tons of power, and spits out a lot of it as heat. running single card is fine, sli can get really hot... I would wait a guy named recon-uk to show up and ask him about sli480 as that's the set-up he has and he seem to have it running really well.

what are you running on the rest of your system? since you said new build I'm assuming Ivy bridge CPU? anyway, I need to know what you're putting in it in order to recommend a mobo

 

[Marmour]

if you plan to eventually sli, I recommend against the 480 as it's a monster of a card, drains tons of power, and spits out a lot of it as heat. running single card is fine, sli can get really hot... I would wait a guy named recon-uk to show up and ask him about sli480 as that's the set-up he has and he seem to have it running really well.

what are you running on the rest of your system? since you said new build I'm assuming Ivy bridge CPU? anyway, I need to know what you're putting in it in order to recommend a mobo

im putting in Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
NZXT Guardian 921 RB 921RB-001-BL Black SECC steel chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
I really just want raw power for my gaming, i might not sli for 1-2 years if i dont have to

 

[Marmour]

I am here, ask away

hi recon-uk
i was doing a comparison between an evga 560 ti 2gb and a evga super-clocked 570
Then vmem told me about the 480.
My question is if it is better, graphics wise than the other 2 graphics cards,
If it is what cheap mobo would be good for putting them in sli, dont mind power or heat,
my specs are already in the thread below

 

[vmem]

im putting in Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
NZXT Guardian 921 RB 921RB-001-BL Black SECC steel chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
I really just want raw power for my gaming, i might not sli for 1-2 years if i dont have to

1). you'll want a higher wattage PSU for future SLI. 500W is the standard for a single video card system, and I'm not sure enough for the 480 alone (not even talking about sli). corsair's a great name in PSU, so I would just go for a higher wattage corsair

2). the corsair vengeance memory are great (own them myself), but the big heat spreaders are a pain and not that useful. get the low profile ones if you want corsair vengeance, other wise get G.skill memory.

3). this board should do for your needs, open box for super cheap:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265R

otherwise get this guy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265

 

[Marmour]

I guess i should help...

The 480... ohh the good old 480..

Yes it trumps the 570 and 560Ti, why you ask?

I will tell you.

570 Specs:

Cuda cores: 480
ROP's: 40
Bus width: 320-BiT
Memory 1280MB
Price: $270+

GTX 480 Specs:

CUDA cores: 480
ROP's: 48
Bus width: 384-BiT
Memory: 1536MB
Price: $220+

thx so much, next question i know you have a 480 sli setup.
Could you please give a couple suggestions on mobos for 480 sli, cheap plz

 

[vmem]

I can stop you hitting these temps, but you will need to listen carefully

<-- I'll listen too, want to xfire 7970s lol

 

[Marmour]

This will be great for both setups, leave a slot between the cards for maximum cooling:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157295

would this mobo work for sli:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131781
also i chose this psu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020
and i switched to this ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231425
or is this better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233187

 

[Gothams Finest]

You'll need a stronger power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022&Tpk=tx850

 

[Marmour]

You will need 800watts+ for SLi.

That motherboard can do SLi, but not my recommendation for SLi cooling...

Ram is fine.

That PSU is perfect for a single GPU only.

alright thx but forget sli for now, i can get any mobo but i need a min of 600 wats or maybe less?

 

[Gothams Finest]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3899435&SID=skim1402X558040Xa1430a7c9fab7a01aac2dd86ae1d73b4

TX 650 will be fine for a single 480, but when/if you add another 480 you will need to buy a more powerful PSU.

 

[Ironslice]

This 570 id $10 cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130622

 

[Marmour]

$10 cheaper than what? another 570?

thx for everything and i have settled on this build, could you please review
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231425
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130759
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157306(this is just in case i want to buy another gtx480 in he future because it supports sli,plus it supports ocing for my 2500k!)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
if there are any compatibility issues please tell me, thx

 

[Marmour]

Seems good, are you left with anything over from the budget?

it depends what is it and is it mandatory
because as you see in my profile im only 13 so my parents are paying for half off the computer

 

[Marmour]

Much better chassis and cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153

whyd you ask if i had extra money?

 

[Marmour]

Better case for cooling, and more optimisations for your budget..

how is this mobo it has great features

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135283

 

[Marmour]

is this case good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066

 

[Marmour]

2 guys have it here, it is not very good for cable management, but it is an OK.. case.

Better:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133180

it seems like a good case but my two concerns is that it has only two fans plus does it have enough space for 1 maybe two 480s?
do you have any personal experience with this case?
what about this case, seems nice
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066