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August 8, 2012 6:35:50 AM

Hey, I designed this PC (With a lot of help from you guys,) and am going to make a few orders for parts soon. I was youtubing some ARMA II OA and posted these specs in the comments asking whether this system would be sweet for max settings and resolution. I was confident is would surely work max and was just making sure and I got a tonne of comments back saying that this system sucks and wouldn't be able to run it at all really, At first I was like yeah whatever trolls. But then I got about 15 different replies all saying similar things and my comment go marked as spam. I was confused as hell because this is a 2.6k setup.

(Dont worry about the prices for this because its australian prices and also most things are out of stock in Aus ect, ect. Just wanna know about the actual components.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($145.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($105.00 @ Scorptec)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: OCZ Agility 3 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($190.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 6GB Video Card
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case ($105.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $1909.00
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-08 16:30 EST+1000)

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a b B Homebuilt system
August 8, 2012 6:58:25 AM

Get rid of the Agility SSD. They are not enjoying good reviews. I prefer NVIDIA over Radeon. Apart from that you should be good to go.
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August 8, 2012 7:04:20 AM

Thats a great PC man :)  I think you should upgrade the SSD to a more reliable brand though, 250GB SSD for $190 seems a bit shonky in my opinion.

Maybe you could try a Samsung 830 for SSD?
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August 8, 2012 9:56:47 AM

thanks guys but other than the SSD I should be able to like max out every game on the planet? Also Nvidia over Radeon I agree aswell but Nvidia doesnt have a 6GB graphics card...Yet

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.00 @ PCCaseGear)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($36.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($145.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($105.00 @ Scorptec)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 6GB Video Card
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case ($105.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($109.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($729.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $1719.00
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-08 19:57 EST+1000)
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August 8, 2012 9:59:58 AM

Also with the SSD will I need to make it my primary storage to get the full effect of more speed? Like if I install all my games onto it over the HDD will it perform noticeably better? Because SSD starts up faster Ect will I need to install my operating system onto it in order to make use of it?
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August 8, 2012 10:13:15 AM

Hi.

The fact that Radeon has 3 or 6 GB framebuffer, and NVidia 6 series have 2 or 4 GB framebuffer really makes no difference.

If you wanted to be smart you would make your descisions based upon performance and reviews not just 'Duuuh, 6 is bigger than 4, duuuuh my number is bigger than your number, duuuuh but I have a small....'.

Seriously - read some reviews.

You want a GTX 670 in there. For the money, it's amazing. 10% slower than a GTX 680. But about 30-40% cheaper!!!

Seriously - look at some benchmarks.

Same for the SSDs. The Agility 3 is a little poor. It has good read/write speeds but low IOPs. For a little more money you can get an SSD with double the IOPs.

READ SOME REVIEWS.

LOOK AT SOME BENCHMARKS.

Other than that - yeah, the rig looks fly :) 
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August 8, 2012 10:13:59 AM

Yes but the 6GB Sapphire is excellent for multi monitors and on every benchmark i've seen the Sapphire in Lethal.B mode is the best
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August 8, 2012 10:23:38 AM

Maybe so but the GTX 670 is sometimes faster than the 7970, it costs less and it uses less power. You will find that if you decide to get a second 670 and SLI, the NVidia cards will give smoother performance and scale better than the Radeons.

I have 2 Radeon 5850s and have had them for a while, and TBH I'm thinking of going green again.
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August 8, 2012 10:30:35 AM

so what do you suggest I do? get rid of the 7970 and get 2 670's on SLI
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August 8, 2012 10:43:51 AM

hmm what about 680 sli's?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 8, 2012 10:44:02 AM

There is nothing wrong with that card your picking if you are planing on gaming on three or more monitors at high resolutions (7680X1600 5760x1080/1200 for example) then your best off going with that card but if your gaming on 1920x1080, 1920x1200 resolutions,i half to say NVidia is the way to go but that's just my opinion.Anyway,as far as your build goes looks great other than the ram you picked i recommend you change it to low profile to avoid the risk of conflict with your aftermarket cpu cooler and also i agree with the others switch the SSD. Apart from that your good to go mate.
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August 8, 2012 10:47:25 AM

so ok, ill change the 7970 to NVIDIAS but which ones, 670 apparently but would there be a noticeable difference going with 680's?
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August 8, 2012 10:50:47 AM

Actually lets say Im gaming on 1 monitor and have another 2 monitors but not displaying the game, like I might be watching a video on one or something the middle one the game and then the right one I could have my video editing software and like fraps or something. Which Card/Cards would be the best possible for what im intending to do?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 8, 2012 11:05:38 AM

the best bang for buck is to grab 2 GTX 670s, would be great if you grab non reference designed ones.
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August 8, 2012 11:27:24 AM

so which brand?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 8, 2012 11:29:21 AM

Its not really feasible to game, watch videos and render at the same time. Regardless of GPU the CPU would max out. The software is not really designed to function like that.

NVIDIA has advantages and the Agility is not a good SSD. The Crucial M4 is a solid performer.

SLI comes with its own issues. There is the extra power draw and the heat to consider as well as the extra space required. There are stability and performance issues with some games.

I get on just fine with my 560 Ti.
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August 9, 2012 6:09:26 AM

I dont care if its overkill or anything but would I (If price didnt matter, which it doesnt) go with a 6GB toxic Radeon 7970? Keep in mind I dont really wanna overclock if I dont have to so would sli 670s be sweet to max everything without OC or should I go for 680 sli?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 6:31:12 AM

a 6GB toxic Radeon 7970 or GTX 690 if price isn't a issue i would go that route both are total overkill and you mentioned you don't care about that or price so i recommend either of those because a 690 is really just two 680 made into one card. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/gefor...
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August 9, 2012 6:39:08 AM

if money is not a criteria go for 7970 toxic by sapphire.
As it has better multi monitor capability. as for what you described is not feasible. you could run fraps in background and stream but u cannot do like run three different fullscreen apps on three diff monitors . Its either windowed so u can resize to one screen or its full screen as far as i know.
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August 9, 2012 6:45:46 AM

yeah well thats what i ment like use windowed mode for both things and just put one on one screen and the other on the other, also ive been doing a bit of reading and apparently the sapphires 6GB is useless unless your running 3 or more monitors which i never will
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:02:18 AM

Compare the bench marks i posted above i did all the options 690 vs CF 7970/ 680 SLI vs 690/670 vs 7970/ 680 vs 7970GHZ/ 690 vs 7970GHZ elect.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:09:18 AM

RickyT23 said:
Hi.

The fact that Radeon has 3 or 6 GB framebuffer, and NVidia 6 series have 2 or 4 GB framebuffer really makes no difference.

If you wanted to be smart you would make your descisions based upon performance and reviews not just 'Duuuh, 6 is bigger than 4, duuuuh my number is bigger than your number, duuuuh but I have a small....'.

Seriously - read some reviews.

You want a GTX 670 in there. For the money, it's amazing. 10% slower than a GTX 680. But about 30-40% cheaper!!!

Seriously - look at some benchmarks.

Same for the SSDs. The Agility 3 is a little poor. It has good read/write speeds but low IOPs. For a little more money you can get an SSD with double the IOPs.

READ SOME REVIEWS.

LOOK AT SOME BENCHMARKS.

Other than that - yeah, the rig looks fly :) 



You are wrong....

*Framebuffer MATTER A LOT when you have multiple monitor, speacially if you play games @ 5760x1080 with all the filters ON (you will obviously need a few more cards)

*The GTX 670 is not 40% cheaper than the GTX 680, the gtx 680 cost ~500$ and a card 40% cheaper cost would cost ~300$, the GTX 670 cost 400$

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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:10:04 AM

xHALORDx said:
Also with the SSD will I need to make it my primary storage to get the full effect of more speed? Like if I install all my games onto it over the HDD will it perform noticeably better? Because SSD starts up faster Ect will I need to install my operating system onto it in order to make use of it?


It will not make your apps perform faster but it will certantly make them boot faster and yes, you will need to install the OS in the SSD
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:11:25 AM

xHALORDx said:
hmm what about 680 sli's?


no no no... i made that mistake, buy dual GTX 670 4GB EDITION (if you're planning in gaming @5760x1080 with 3 monitos)

but if you are only going to play @1080p and have something else opened in a second monitor (how the hell can you game and do other stuff????) buy a normal 7970 or a 670, either one will be the same because you wont use all the Framebuffer if you dont play @5760x1080
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:15:01 AM

Money is not a issue he said 680 4gb sli will preform better than 670 4gb sli
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:18:04 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Money is not a issue he said 680 4gb sli will preform better than 670 4gb sli


i have a Qsli of GTX 680s 4GB edition and i am sure that it will only outperform a Qsli GTX 670 4GB by marely ~10fps in Metro 2033 @5760x1080 with everything maxed out and all filters activated.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:18:10 AM

xHALORDx said:
Actually lets say Im gaming on 1 monitor and have another 2 monitors but not displaying the game, like I might be watching a video on one or something the middle one the game and then the right one I could have my video editing software and like fraps or something. Which Card/Cards would be the best possible for what im intending to do?
2 4GB 680 or a 690 if money is of no concern here those are the best options
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:19:02 AM

bigcyco1 said:
2 680 or a 690 if money is of no concern here those are the best options


2 GTX 680's 4GB FTW!
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:24:55 AM

xHALORDx said:
Actually lets say Im gaming on 1 monitor and have another 2 monitors but not displaying the game, like I might be watching a video on one or something the middle one the game and then the right one I could have my video editing software and like fraps or something. Which Card/Cards would be the best possible for what im intending to do?
Well let's not just say we need to know exactly how many monitors and what res in order to recommend you the correct setup bud i don't want to tell you the wrong answer so please be specific.
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August 9, 2012 7:28:35 AM

how is this. If this doesnt max everything im a little worried...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Enermax ETS-T40-TA 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($223.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($569.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($569.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($69.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($579.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($130.20 @ Amazon)
Total: $2973.05
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
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August 9, 2012 7:29:44 AM

thats gonna cost like another 500$ USD to get that in Aus.... meh,
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:31:58 AM

no...no...no... Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card sucks!EVGA MSI ASUS are the best options!
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August 9, 2012 7:38:36 AM

If im gaming on only 1 monitor at a time (maybe switch to 2 every now and then) would there a a noticable difference getting a sapphire 6gb toxic 7970 over sli 680's? I understand that the SLI gtx's are better for lower res and sapphire for higher res but would the difference at low res be so small between the 2 it doesnt matter? Also:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Enermax ETS-T40-TA 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($223.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($579.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($579.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($69.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($579.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($130.20 @ Amazon)
Total: $2993.05
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-09 03:34 EDT-0400)
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:40:23 AM

aqualipt said:
ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND OR WHAT???¡¡???? my fps almost doubled when i went from 4 2gb GTX 680s to 4 4gb GTX 680s in metro 2033 @5760x1080 maxed out with all filters activated!!
Show me?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:41:03 AM

xHALORDx said:
If im gaming on only 1 monitor at a time (maybe switch to 2 every now and then) would there a a noticable difference getting a sapphire 6gb toxic 7970 over sli 680's? I understand that the SLI gtx's are better for lower res and sapphire for higher res but would the difference at low res be so small between the 2 it doesnt matter? Also:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Enermax ETS-T40-TA 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($223.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($579.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($579.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Inwin Dragon Rider ATX Full Tower Case ($134.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: OCZ 750W ATX12V Power Supply ($69.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VG278H 120Hz 27.0" Monitor ($579.98 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($130.20 @ Amazon)
Total: $2993.05
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-09 03:34 EDT-0400)


Great build! altough i suggest you to replace that cooler with atleast a Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme.

You could get a build with almost the same performance for a bit less but i suppose you dont want to...+1000 to Overkilling!!
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:41:04 AM

bigcyco1 said:
no...no...no... Galaxy GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card sucks!EVGA MSI ASUS only!


ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND OR WHAT???¡¡???? my fps almost doubled when i went from 4 2gb GTX 680s to 4 4gb GTX 680s in metro 2033 @5760x1080 maxed out with all filters activated!!
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:43:13 AM

Hes not playing @5760x1080 though
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August 9, 2012 7:46:53 AM

which things would allow me to get the same performance for a bit less?
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:46:57 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Show me?


when overclocked, my cards barely got 30fps and when they werent overclocked i only got ~23fps so i started lookin online for a patch or something and i found out that my fps were normal, i was very dissampointed to see that a Quad crossfire of 7970s got 41fps on metro 2033 with the same settings i was using, so i bought 4 GTX 680 4GB edition and problem solved, when overclocked to 1.3/7.128 Ghz i got ~60-65 and in some maps ~70-75.

I would love to post pictures showing off my PC but i am in germany and i will go back to the states on agoust 20th and i'd be back home (where my PC is) on agoust 25th.
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:47:39 AM

xHALORDx said:
which things would allow me to get the same performance for a bit less?


Replacing the GTX 680s with GTX 670s

Edit: if i'd were you i would get a better PSU like the TX,HX or AX 750w or 850w a good and cheap 950w PSU thats selling for less than the TX750w and has a bit more quality is the Silencer Mk II 950W -----> http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=67740&vpn=PPCMK2S950&m...
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 7:51:08 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Hes not playing @5760x1080 though


Ops...then he should be more than ok with 2GB of VRAM :lol: 
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 8:01:01 AM

Here is my suggestion if you don't like it no worries it's all good just showing you another option.Add the case you prefer and monitor PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.00 @ Mwave Australia)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master TPC 812 86.2 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($75.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($229.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.00 @ Scorptec)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($255.00 @ Scorptec)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($719.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Silverstone 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 3-Pack (64-bit) ($99.00 @ Scorptec)
Total: $1943.00
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-09 18:02 EST+1000)
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 8:11:34 AM

Here a different build if you really want to go crazy and money is of no issue you might prefer this monster add the monitors and your good to go mate this is overkill though lol.PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.00 @ Mwave Australia)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($125.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Extreme EATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($469.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.00 @ Scorptec)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($182.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($125.00 @ Scorptec)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($125.00 @ Scorptec)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($573.20 @ Mwave Australia)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($573.20 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower Case ($189.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Power Supply: Silverstone 850W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Total: $2839.40
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-10 17:05 EST+1000)


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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 8:17:08 AM

I highly recommend you don't buy that mobo i don't care TH gave it a recommended award they make mistakes sometimes it's not a good mobo for sli read the last page of review Quote: http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/asrock_z77_extreme... The only negative I have for this motherboard is that it slips outside of typical ATX specifications. It’s 3cm thinner than a standard ATX motherboard and as a result may lack secure mounting on the far side since this isn’t a common size, which also means you should be very careful when plugging in the 24-pin ATX motherboard power – as the motherboard may flex. P.S. The extreme 6 doesn't have this flaw so if you want ASRock get that mobo as it's solid and good price. ;) 
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August 9, 2012 8:32:27 AM

would 2x670 on SLI be better than a sapphire radeon 7970 6GB because the price is basically the same and having extra Vram is always nice incase i ever decide to use multi monitor and also I think it'll last longer because games are starting to require more and more vram and in a few years 2GB will be outdated
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a b B Homebuilt system
August 9, 2012 8:55:33 AM

It's up to you i don't want to mislead you don't half to get 670 2gb you can get 670 4gb btw so i will just say this both are great options and beast cards you can't go wrong either way it also depends what games you play The GTX 670's will perform better in game-types (BF3, GTA IV, open world games like Skyrim and Fallout 3). It's also,considerably quieter, and allows gaming with PhysX and Adaptive VSync.
http://hardocp.com/article/2012/04/16/nvidia_adaptive_v...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edit... http://www.techpowerup.com/161879/Sapphire-Toxic-Radeon...
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August 9, 2012 9:08:31 AM

well the 670's are better at BF3, GTA IV and open world games so pretty much better at everything?
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