Will this PSU be enough ?

[vinootje]

Hey

im going to buy an XFX 7770 Double Dissipation
but my PSU has not that much Watts

here my PSU

here my system

Motherboard : ASRock N68 VS3 UCC
Ram : 4GB ddr3 1600MHz (after i got my 7770 going to buy another 4Gb ddr3 1600MHz "Or is that a bad choice ?")
CPU : AMD X4 640 3GHz Quad Core

(fans)
1 - 120MM Fan
3 - 80MM Fan's From Coolermaster BC80 Blue LED
card reader 21 in one
1 - Dvd Reader
1 - 500GB HDD

the PSU what i now use does not have the PCI-E Power Cable. but i saw i can get very cheap those adapters from molex to PCI-E

But will my Powersupply run it ?

 

[Bromeh]

THROW OUT THAT POWER SUPPLY RIGHT ******* NOW ... not kidding that *** could burn your system

it's only fake 300w so no it wouldn't run it

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&Tpk=cx500

You shouldn't have any problem with that, if you want to add a lot of stuff, maybge going for a CX600


Merry Christmas

 

[vinootje]

i dont have the 7770 in my system xd i want to buy it but most people say its should run stock not overclocked. but

what if i jsut buy this powersupply http://azerty.nl/8-1073-491372/ms-tech-ms-n750-val-voeding-.html

 

[GhislainG]

It should be able to run it: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

 

[vinootje]

oke but because the ms tech ms n 750 is not that populair will it just do it job

or is it a better choice to get an corsair 400 watt ? or

will the ms 750 will jsut do it job and wont fail ?

 

[vinootje]

im reading over the net and found this about the powersupply the ms tech 750

its translated so it may contain Faults !

This is a very poor diet that is certainly not advisable to buy. It is the cheapest of 750W there is and that is also noticeable. The 3.3V, 5V and 12V connection are about 30-40% below the voltage to hear what they have and the-5V and-12V are merged to-8.9V.
Problems which occur are that the video card still fails causing the screen is just black. CPU and GPU overclocking is totally impossible and the system itself is unstable sea. Some USB HDDs do not agree on this PC when I connect.


Used white AMD A8-3870K Black Edition, Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Evo, Gigabyte GA-A55M-DS2, Cooler Master Elite 431, Seagate DB35.3 ST3500830SCE, 500GB en Corsair CMV8GX3M2A1333C9.

 

[GhislainG]

THROW OUT THAT POWER SUPPLY RIGHT ******* NOW ... not kidding that *** could burn your system

it's only fake 300w so no it wouldn't run it

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&Tpk=cx500

You shouldn't have any problem with that, if you want to add a lot of stuff, maybge going for a CX600


Merry Christmas

It's a low power, but not a bad PSU. UL number E131881 also matches other Delta manufactured PSUs from Chieftec and I haven't found any info leading me to believe they are bad. Delta also manufacture PSUs for Antec.

 

[vinootje]

oke ghislainG thanks for the info !

but what should i do buy the 750 watt psu
but someone posted a review on it white many bad things !

but that guys uses more than me

im just using an amd x4 640
he uses a big cpu cooler
im just using the zalman cnps 9300AT
he uses a big motherboard

im using a atx asrock n68 vs3 ucc
but what should i do i font have a high budget i want a powersuply that runs all perfect the 7770 and amd x4 640 500gb hdd

what should i do ?

 

[vinootje]

what about this psu ?

MS-Tech MS-N550 VAL

? 550Watts

and someone posted this

nice quiet power, good and nicely packaged, no rickety thing, looks good quality from outside and inside (not glued wires). enough sata / molex cables and good flexibility.

cheap!

 

[GhislainG]

You've asked the same question 15 days ago and you never received a satisfactory answer. Your current PSU can run that low power video card, but since you want a new PSU, what's your budget and where can you buy it? Unless you plan on upgrading your system, a 380-450 watt PSU more than meets your requirements. Why consider a 750W PSU for a system that draws less than 300 watts? More power doesn't always means better. The MS-Tech MS-N750-VAL is an older design that provides 38A total on the 12V rails. That PSU is closer to 500W than 750W.

 

[vinootje]

oke sorry somehow i didnt got mails in my email and i didnt unsibscribed so i didnt know there were awnsers and i couldnt find my post back !

sorry about that !

my psu can power that low card the 7770 right

most peopel say the psu is the hart of your system and you dont want it to fail !
thats why i want a better one becasue the system is now new

newm otherboard
new cpu
new ram
and now there is coming a new graphics card

but the psu is still almsot 4 years old

i like the design of the MS Tech 550
its sleeved

you can plug the cables in that you need all the other cables yo udont need u can plugg of

i can only buy from azerty.nl

will this psu be great ?

http://azerty.nl/8-1073-491850/ms-tech-ms-n550-val-voeding-.html

 

[GhislainG]

Even a 10 years old PSU isn't an issue. I wouldn't recommend a PSU with an efficiency that's less than 75%. If you can afford it, get an Antec Basiq VP-450P http://azerty.nl/0-1073-366093/antec-basiq-vp-450p-voeding-intern-atx12v-2-3-eps12v-2-91-200-240-v-wisselstroom-v-450-watt-actieve-pfc-europa.html a Corsair Builder Series CX430 http://azerty.nl/8-1073-555971/corsair-builder-series-cx430-.html or a 500W OCZ CoreXStream http://azerty.nl/8-1073-533231/ocz-corexstream-voeding-in.html They are not modular, but they offer better quality.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Antec-VP450-Power-Supply-Review/1487

 

[vinootje]

a little question what does this mean than ?

MS-Tech MS-N550 VAL
does not have any efficiency ?

and is either not modular i think

but the other what you told are also not modular but have effinciency

what does that mean ?

my pc is only running his

Motherboard ASRock N68 VS3
CPU Cooler (Zalman CNPS 9300AT)
CPU AMD X4 640
1 80mm coolermaster bc 80 fan on motherboard
further the molex

2 Molex for the coolermaster bc 80
2 sata to power the dvd drive and hdd

more im not using

and later the xfx 7770

but like now im using an delta electronics psu

and some poeple told me it is a bad psu low quality !
but its running for 4 years

wil the ms tech 550 val run

on my system White the xfx 7770 ?

 

[GhislainG]

Your Delta PSU isn't as good as the newer Antec VP350 that's manufactured by Delta, but it isn't a bad PSU. The Antec VP450 is obviously better.

Higher efficiency means lower costs to operate the system, less heat is generated and lower fan speeds to keep the PSU cool.

Did you at least download and read http://www.ms-tech.de/de/datenblatt/MS-N550-VAL.pdf?

Efficiency: < 75%
PFC: Passive
Weight: 1kg

That PSU is less powerful than the Antec VP450, has a lower efficiency, no active PFC (only very cheap/old designs still use passive PFC), etc. Your Delta PSU definitely better quality. You really want the MS-N550-VAL because it's modular?

 

[vinootje]

hey again sorry for so many questions !

higher efficiency means lower cost
i think that is right. but will it cost many euro in a year more ?
less geat is great ! and lower fan speed means lower noise level
what you said here

Efficiency: < 75%
PFC: Passive
Weight: 1kg

is that the ms tech 550 ?

how much efficiency does my delta psu have ?

oke so it wont deliver enough power to my system + The XFX 7770 ?

but if my delta psu has better quality will it run my system white the xfx 7770 using a molex to pci-e adapter ?

 

[vinootje]

i want the msn tech 550 val because it has cable management Cables sleeved ! 550watts and the recommende wat for the xfx 770 + system is 550

thats why
what about this ?

Techsolo TP-600
Techsolo STP-650
LC Power Office LC600H-12 V2.31
Inter-Tech Energon EPS-650W
Corsair VS Series VS350 (afraid 350watt is not enough )
Techsolo TP-730
Techsolo TP-520 CI
Tagan 2 Force II Series TG800-U33

btw what is the difference between those 2 ?
MS-Tech MS-N550 VAL
and
MS-Tech Value Edition MS-N550-VAL-CM

 

[vinootje]

i discovered this about the powersupplys

TECHSOLO TP-600
does not have the pci-e cable

TECHSOLO STP 650
Does not have the PCI-E Cable
But The 140mm super silent fan is enhanced regarding temperature regulation.

LC Power OFfice LC600H
Does have the PCI-E Cable
i readed on amazon.de that someone told that its not a good powersupply for a gamging system ? any one guys agree ?

 

[GhislainG]

Unlike what you said, the MS-Tech MS-N550 VAL does not have cable management; you have to buy the more expensive MS-Tech Value Edition MS-N550-VAL-CM to get it.


Techsolo TP-600 - Passive PFC and only 24A on the 12v rails. Your Delta PSU with 25A on the 12v rails has better specs.
Techsolo STP-650 - Same specs as above.
LC Power Office LC600H-12 V2.31 - Better than the above as it has active PFC and 36A on the 12v rails.
Inter-Tech Energon EPS-650W - The specs look good, but it's hard to believe that it really has four 12v rails at 18A each.
Corsair VS Series VS350 (afraid 350watt is not enough ) - Manufactured by CWT, but no detailed specs.
Techsolo TP-730 - Better than the above Techsolo PSU's with 38A on the 12v rails. It probably is a 500W PSU.
Techsolo TP-520 CI - Active PFC, 80 Plus, 32A on the 12v rail. This is the best Techsolo PSU on your list.
Tagan 2 Force II Series TG800-U33 - A decent and powerful PSU with 80% plus efficiency, but not inexpensive either.

The number of watts isn't important. The 12v rails is far more important and that's why I can't recommend the MS-Tech.

Several of the above PSUs do not include cable management.

 

[GhislainG]

i discovered this about the powersupplys

TECHSOLO TP-600
does not have the pci-e cable

TECHSOLO STP 650
Does not have the PCI-E Cable
But The 140mm super silent fan is enhanced regarding temperature regulation.

LC Power OFfice LC600H
Does have the PCI-E Cable
i readed on amazon.de that someone told that its not a good powersupply for a gamging system ? any one guys agree ?

The LC Power OFfice LC600H has the following specs:

1 x 20+4 mainboard pin
1 x 4+4 pin mainboard 12V
1 x pci express 6 pin
1 x pci express 6+2 pin
6 x SATA
3 x PATA
2 x FDD

Where did you find that it doesn't have PCI express connectors?

 

[vinootje]

haha Thats a good one !

but whice one should be great to power my pc white the XFX 7770

 

[GhislainG]

The following PSUs can power the XFX 7770 GPU:

- Your Delta PSU (I know that you want a newer PSU, but it's better than some of the PSUs that you are interested in)
- Tagan 2 Force II Series TG800-U33 (with active PFC, this is a good and powerful PSU for only € 39,75)
- Antec VP450
- Corsair Builder Series CX430
- OCZ CoreXStream 500W
- Techsolo TP-520 CI
- LC Power Office LC600H-12 V2.31
- Inter-Tech Energon EPS-650W
- Techsolo TP-730

The Tagan apparently is noisy under heavy load (transformer buzz), but it isn't an issue for you as your system won't exceed 30% of it's power rating. That PSU doesn't meet your cable management requirement, but most of the PSUs that you listed don't.

 

[vinootje]

oke so my delta psu will be fine. im going to try to run mysystem first if i have the xfx 7770 on my normal psu

but my delta psu dont have a pcie power calb.e but i can get one no problem !

the tagan 2 force has enough Watts but its make a transformer buzz. i dont know if i use more than 30% power rating

so those are liek crap ?

Techsolo TP-600
Techsolo STP-650
LC Power Office LC600H-12 V2.31
Inter-Tech Energon EPS-650W
Corsair VS Series VS350 (afraid 350watt is not enough )
Techsolo TP-730
Techsolo TP-520 CI

 

[GhislainG]

oke so my delta psu will be fine. im going to try to run mysystem first if i have the xfx 7770 on my normal psu

but my delta psu dont have a pcie power calb.e but i can get one no problem !

the tagan 2 force has enough Watts but its make a transformer buzz. i dont know if i use more than 30% power rating Don't worry about it; you won't be running 2 very powerful and power hungry GPUs. Yous system will never draw more than 300W.

so those are liek crap ?

Techsolo TP-600 Yes
Techsolo STP-650 Yes
LC Power Office LC600H-12 V2.31 Acceptable
Inter-Tech Energon EPS-650W Acceptable
Corsair VS Series VS350 (afraid 350watt is not enough ) - Why would you replace a 350W PSU with another one?
Techsolo TP-730 I wouldn't recommed it
Techsolo TP-520 CI - Acceptable

 

[vinootje]

haha thanks bro !

now i read back about the corsair i laughed like 5 mins why i would replace my 350 psu delta for a 350 corsair XD !

so i have choice about the

LC Power Office LC600H-12 V2.31
Inter-Tech Energon EPS 650W
and the Techsolo TP 520 CI

the LC Power office is the cheapest one and has 600 watts the lowest
because i think i never use more than 300 watt because
my motherboard only supports 1 GPU and im not going to buy 2 graphics card becasue im jsut 14 years and my income is very low.

but if i should win for example a graphics card of the same chip serie i am going to buy a new motherboard + psu or im just selling the lowest graphics card

because why need 2 graphics card ?
for ultra settings but than if i have 2 gpu my amd x4 640 is not good enough etc

so just get an LC Power Office
and an xfx 7770

but wont my system fail ?

 

[vinootje]

for like years the delta psu is running for 3 years and 9 months
wil the LC Power office run that long either ?