How much will PCI 1.0 Limit my GPU?

[Grimmninja]

Hi guys,

I'm looking to upgrade my gpu to an AMD 7850 and I currently have a PCI 1.0 Motherboard. Now in time i will upgrade this mobo but temporarily, time wise we are talking about a month. Will it make a difference. I am looking to play 1600x900 for now aswell. Will this res be ok to run it at PCI 1.0 and can i still raise graphical settings in game?

Thanks.

 

[drums101]

If you are upgrading your motherboard in less than a month it shouldnt be too big of an issue. It will probably make a difference but again if its less than a month you shouldnt worry...I would take a look at the tomshardware review article of this card and the 7870....look and see if they test this on pcie 2.0 8x slot that should give you the rough estimate of a 1.0 slot.

 

[Grimmninja]

I'm just curious as to what exactly would the 1.0 limit in terms of what the gpu can do? People told me I wont get the full potential out of it? what does that mean exactly?

 

[drums101]

well pcie 1.0 is exactly half the bandwidth of pcie 2.0...so a 16x 1.0 slot would be roughly equivalent to a 8x slot of 2.0.....most cards now a days cannot even saturate the bus of a 2.0 8x slot....so it could not even have an effect on the performance of the card. My guess is that it would have a little effect on the performance you will see but not enough to be noticeable. Side note what processor are you using? that is going to be more of a determining factor if you get full potential out of your new card

 

[Grimmninja]

Yeah i was just thinking about my processor, its an i5 Q650

 

[drums101]

do you mean i5 -650? i dont think there is a model of i5 out there that is q650....unless you have an older core 2 quad cpu

 

[Grimmninja]

yeah sorry its an i5-650 i keep thinking there is a q there for some reason

 

[drums101]

oh then you are fine....that is a socket 1156 processor so that is a fairly new motherboard...the cpu itself has the pcie lanes on it and those are pcie 2.0....so you have a pcie 2.0 motherboard. What length pcie slot is it going into? 16x or 8x? Either way you should be fine you wont notice any performance hit if there is in an 8x slot it would be very small...if you can tell me the make and model of the board and i could tell you right away if its gonna work

 

[Grimmninja]

From aida I'm getting this
Motherboard Name Packard Bell iXtreme M5800
Motherboard Chipset Intel Ibex Peak H57, Intel Ironlake

Unless you need me to get the actual name from inside the computer

 

[drums101]

yea if you could look at the motherboard and get the make and model that info doesnt help too much.....did you build this pc or buy it from a company?

 

[Grimmninja]

yeah this is a packard bell pre built pc I was given

 

[drums101]

maybe just give me the make and model of the actual computer.....I could prolly figure it out from that.....but chances are there is at least 1 pcie 2.0 16x slot to put the graphics card into....if thats the case then you will have no bottlenecking issues bc of the motherboard it will play perfectly fine and you wont have to upgrade your board

 

[Grimmninja]

its a Packard Bell i6523 UK
i found a sticker saying H57H-AM2
if that means anything

 

[drums101]

hmmm...i am having trouble finding the exact model on google bc its a little older....is there a graphics card in there now? if so right click on computer in the start menu hit properties then at the top left go to device manager and click on display adapters and tell me what it has there

 

[Grimmninja]

Motherboard
CPU Type DualCore Intel Core i5-650, 3333 MHz (25 x 133)
Motherboard Name Packard Bell iXtreme M5800
Motherboard Chipset Intel Ibex Peak H57, Intel Ironlake
System Memory 3063 MB (DDR3-1333 DDR3 SDRAM)
DIMM3: Samsung M378B5673FH0-CH9 2 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3
SDRAM (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz) (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz) (6-6-6-17 @
457 MHz)
DIMM4: Samsung M378B2873EH1-CH9 1 GB DDR3-1333 DDR3
SDRAM (8-8-8-22 @ 609 MHz) (7-7-7-20 @ 533 MHz) (6-6-6-17 @
457 MHz)
BIOS Type AMI (05/17/10)
Communication Port RIM Virtual Serial Port v2 (COM3)
Communication Port RIM Virtual Serial Port v2 (COM4)
Display
Video Adapter ATI Radeon HD 5450 (512 MB)
Video Adapter ATI Radeon HD 5450 (512 MB)
3D Accelerator ATI Radeon HD 5450 (Cedar)
Monitor Packard Bell Viseo 200Ws [20" LCD] (D140C0054000)
Multimedia
Audio Adapter ATI Radeon HDMI @ ATI Cedar/Park - High Definition
Audio Controller
Audio Adapter Realtek ALC662 @ Intel Ibex Peak PCH - High
Definition Audio Controller [B-3]
Storage
IDE Controller Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series SATA AHCI Controller
Disk Drive SanDisk SanDisk Cruzer USB Device (14 GB, USB)
Disk Drive ST3500418AS (500 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA-II)
Optical Drive ATAPI DVD A DH16AASH
Optical Drive DTSOFT Virtual CdRom Device
Optical Drive SanDisk SanDisk Cruzer USB Device
SMART Hard Disks Status OK
Partitions
C: (NTFS) 447.7 GB (37.2 GB free)
Total Size 447.7 GB (37.2 GB free)
Input
Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse


That's my whole system. Does that help?

 

[drums101]

I found your other posts in homebuilt systems.....You will be fine as long as the gpu can fit and you have a power supply that can handle it. Your motherboard will not bottleneck your gpu. edit: yep that helps I got it all figured out...your motherboard will work perfectly fine.

 

[Grimmninja]

well i have just got this psu
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/500w-psu-corsair-builder-series-cmpsu-500cxv2uk-80-eff-uncertified-quiet-fan-atx-v23
That enough W for this gpu?

 

[drums101]

yea that psu should be fine neither ur cpu or gpu are power hogs so that will do

 

[Guest]

an H57 board is PCI 2.0 but regardless you will notice no difference: (unless it is PCI 1.0 x4, x8)

 

[Grimmninja]

thank you very much kind sirs, especially drums. You guys have put my mind at ease now..

 

[drums101]

good im glad I could help anything else you need feel free to send me a message.