What of PSU do I need!

Hi all,

I am creating my first computer build and I don't really know how many watts my PSU should be! Now I am on a strict budget of $650 so please! I need help!!

Here are my specs:

AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 3.4 GHz
HiS Radeon 7850 2 GB 256 bit
MSI 970A-G46 Mobo with UEFI BIOS
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM HDD
Corsair Vengeance 8 gigs of RAM (2x4)
Lite-On 4X Blu-Ray Drive
Bytecc 52 in 1 Card Reader
HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid-Tower Gaming Case
And determined power supply!

So please help!

-Max
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  1. Hi :)

    ANY decent make 500 will do...

    All the best Brett :)
  2. Thanks Brett! Also just want your opinion. Do you think MSI mobos are good for gaming?
    Or the one I've picked out?
  3. Here's a good quality psu for a good price :

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

    It has a single rail with +12V@40A, which is more than enough for the 7850 and the total wattage for your system.
    The brand of the mobos don't count for performance in gaming, it's the gpu(most important) and cpu(also important).
  4. Thanks so much! But do feel that MSI motherboards are made well?
  5. maxicusdagreat said:
    Thanks so much! But do feel that MSI motherboards are made well?


    Hi :)

    I sell them in my shops, they are mid range but good quality ...

    All the best Brett :)
  6. Brett928S2 said:
    Hi :)

    I sell them in my shops, they are mid range but good quality ...

    All the best Brett :)



    Sounds good, but do you recommend a specific board? My build will be used mainly for gaming, and video editing. So far my specs are:

    AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core Black Edition 3.4 GHz CPU
    Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM HDD
    HiS Radeon 7850 2 GB 256 bit Graphics GPU
    Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500 watt PSU
    Bytecc Media Reader
    Lite-On Blu-ray Reader
    Corsair Vengeance 8 gigabyte RAM (2x4)
    HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid-Tower Gaming case

    Currently: MSI 970A-G46 Mobo with UEFI BIOS

    Let me know if there is anything I should change. I am only willing to spend up to $80.00 on a motherboard by the way.

    -Max
  7. Do you have all the parts from what store and what's your total budget ?
  8. maxicusdagreat said:
    Sounds good, but do you recommend a specific board? My build will be used mainly for gaming, and video editing. So far my specs are:

    AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core Black Edition 3.4 GHz CPU
    Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 RPM HDD
    HiS Radeon 7850 2 GB 256 bit Graphics GPU
    Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500 watt PSU
    Bytecc Media Reader
    Lite-On Blu-ray Reader
    Corsair Vengeance 8 gigabyte RAM (2x4)
    HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid-Tower Gaming case

    Currently: MSI 970A-G46 Mobo with UEFI BIOS

    Let me know if there is anything I should change. I am only willing to spend up to $80.00 on a motherboard by the way.

    -Max



    Hi :)

    We always recommend ASUS... THEY ARE THE BEST IN QUALITY by far...

    And the WORST are ASROCK...

    All the best Brett :)
  9. djangoringo said:
    Do you have all the parts from what store and what's your total budget ?


    I have not yet ordered the parts but they are coming from Newegg. My total budget is $675
  10. Brett928S2 said:
    Hi :)

    We always recommend ASUS... THEY ARE THE BEST IN QUALITY by far...

    And the WORST are ASROCK...

    All the best Brett :)


    Thank you! So I know its kind of stupid thing to ask but, I need a motherboard $85 and below. So in your opinion what is the best? :o
  11. My recommendation :

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
    Total: $630.89
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


    or

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
    Total: $650.89
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

    All from newegg totals about that.
    You'll have in the first a much better cpu and a equal gpu, in the second a worse cpu(compared with the i5 but still better than the x4 for gaming) and a better gpu.
  12. Brett928S2 said:
    Hi :)

    We always recommend ASUS... THEY ARE THE BEST IN QUALITY by far...

    And the WORST are ASROCK...

    All the best Brett :)


    Not anymore most of their manufacturing is in mainland china, so good luck on the chinese making the build quality like Taiwan does.... if you havnt already notice it in the p8 boards... ASROCK has actually been having a great reputation since its history of being under the umbrella of ASUS operations, however their reliability has yet to be seen...
  13. Thank you so much! But should I really go with an Asrock
  14. Asrock is a good brand nowadays, it has mobos with good quality/features, as good as the other ones.
  15. So would an Extreme3 be good? Because I really do prefer that one
  16. You're talking about what mobo/chipset ?
  17. djangoringo said:
    You're talking about what mobo/chipset ?


    Mobo:
    Asrock 970 Extreme3

    Chipset:
    Radeon HD 7850 2 gig 256 bit
    Phenom II X4 or FX-6200
  18. So you don't want any intel cpu like i recommended ?
    Cause it's better, just saying.
  19. I don't know! This is hard! See currently use the Phenom II X2 on my HP laptop! I love it but, is Intel really that much better?

    Intel Pros: AMD Pros:

    Well made Made for gaming
    Easy to overclock Easy to overclock
    Great hyper threading Great value for money
    Sometimes faster Super fast for cheap
    Hardly any lag Reliability

    Intel Cons: AMD Cons:

    EXPENSIVE Can be cheaply made
    Not as good value for money (debatable) Can lag from time to time
    Can be not as powerful Uses twice as much power as Intel
  20. For gaming intel are the better ones, an i3 is better than the x4 for gaming, the price ain't that much see the build prices that i gave you, also gave one with i5.
    Also lower power consumption and support is one the side of intel cpus.

    See this : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/far-cry-3-performance-benchmark,3379-7.html

    I could put more benchmarks, but i just put a recent one.
  21. Okay you win. I'll go for the i5
  22. I would go with the 3570k with asrock extreme 4.... newegg has a combo deal with them

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1160932

    $336.00 not a bad price at all.
  23. Revised Specs:

    HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid-Tower Case
    ASrock B75M-DGS Mobo
    Intel Core i5-3350p Ivy Bridge 3.3 GHz (to be overclocked)
    HiS Radeon 7850 2 gb 256-BIT GPU
    Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 gb 7200 rpm HDD
    G-Skill Ripjaws X-Series 8 gigs of RAM (2x4)
    Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 500 watt PSU
    Bytecc Card Reader
    Lite-on Blu Ray Drive
  24. my advice, don't get the coolermaster psu(they're low quality psus), get an antec neo 520w in newegg.
    Also are you sure you'll need a bluray drive ? with the money you save from a bluray drive you can buy a better gpu.
  25. djangoringo said:
    my advice, don't get the coolermaster psu(they're low quality psus), get an antec neo 520w in newegg.
    Also are you sure you'll need a bluray drive ? with the money you save from a bluray drive you can buy a better gpu.


    Yeah I'll drop the cooler master and the blu ray
  26. Thanks for the suggesttion but the Antec Neo is a little bit out of budget...
  27. It's 54.99$, you won't find any cheaper psu with that quality(on newegg), only the antec vp-450 for 38.99$ : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045
    It still is better than the coolermaster.
  28. But would 450 watts work for my system?
  29. For a 7850 or 660 gtx yes, for a better card no, that's with all parts in mind.
    It's a quality psu, it was used on toms hardware 500$ build for a 7850+pentium g860.
  30. Hi :)

    Regarding motherboards...

    We see DOZENS of failed Asrock boards in my shops every year, we see a FEW failed ASUS boards...

    This isn't about manufacturer or country, its about QUALITY CONTROL ...or lack of it...

    My best advice is, do NOT buy Asrock.... ANY other make yes, Asrock NO...

    All the best Brett :)
  31. Okay so if I do get another board, what should I get other than the Asrock.
  32. maxicusdagreat said:
    Okay so if I do get another board, what should I get other than the Asrock.


    Hi :)

    Any other make is fine, but preferably Asus...

    All the best Brett :)
  33. Okay thanks!
  34. Asus boards are overpriced, it doesn't have good quality/features as the asrock nowadays for the same price, asrock brand was a mediocre one in the past, but now it's one of the best brands.
    Also client support for asus is terrible.
    An asrock board will do.

    E.G : this is what you get for an asus board : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131835

    for less price : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157302

    See, asus b75 is way overpriced and has less features...

    Other e.g. : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-131-821&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=1#scrollFullInfo

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131831
  35. I know it looks great but are they reliable?
  36. I really like the MSI one. But I still kind of like the Asrock Extreme 4 Z77
  37. maxicusdagreat said:
    I really like the MSI one. But I still kind of like the Asrock Extreme 4 Z77



    Hi :)

    NO Asrock board is reliable.... get the MSI ...

    Already said..

    All the best Brett :)
  38. Can you back that up?
    Cause asrock is as reliable nowadays as ANY other brand.
  39. djangoringo said:
    Can you back that up?
    Cause asrock is as reliable nowadays as ANY other brand.



    Hi :)

    Not by the number of FAILED ASROCK motherboards we get in my shops...

    They outnumber ALL other makes put together....

    Coincidence you think.... ?

    All the best Brett :)
  40. You're saying in the past ?
    Cause any brand mobo has good chances of getting doa or any other problems, in case you didn't know asrock as nowadays mobos with quality and it's a sub-division of asus.
    Check the feedback from asrock owners it doesn't near look as bad as you're describing, by the contrary the asus mobos has been criticized for it's quality and failing rate in the present...
    I don't believe that in this fiscal year, the asrock mobos failed more than ALL others together.
    In fact there're plenty of reviews and owners praising the mobos, i know for the quality of the components used nowadays they're good ones, it's just a stigma of the past lets you say that.
  41. djangoringo said:
    You're saying in the past ?
    Cause any brand mobo has good chances of getting doa or any other problems, in case you didn't know asrock as nowadays mobos with quality and it's a sub-division of asus.
    Check the feedback from asrock owners it doesn't near look as bad as you're describing, by the contrary the asus mobos has been criticized for it's quality and failing rate in the present...
    I don't believe that in this fiscal year, the asrock mobos failed more than ALL others together.
    In fact there're plenty of reviews and owners praising the mobos, i know for the quality of the components used nowadays they're good ones, it's just a stigma of the past lets you say that.



    Hi :)

    I say it because its true for this year and as far back as I can remember...

    We will NOT sell any Asrock board because of it... we will and do sell all other makes...

    But this is about the OP`s choice, he can read your opinion and mine and he can choose...

    All the best Brett :)
  42. To bad, cause 99.9999% of the shops around the world sell any asrock mobos.
    I guess we're all wrong and you're right, such a crusader for quality.
    Yes, he can choose, but in facts not mere supposition.
    He can buy a h77m or h77 pro 4 or b75, z77, etc it will be as good if not better than the other ones at the same price.
  43. djangoringo said:
    To bad, cause 99.9999% of the shops around the world sell any asrock mobos.
    I guess we're all wrong and you're right, such a crusader for quality.
    Yes, he can choose, but in facts not mere supposition.
    He can buy a h77m or h77 pro 4 or b75, z77, etc it will be as good if not better than the other ones at the same price.



    Hi :)

    I am NOT a crusader for quality lol, its purely a financial decision....

    ALL the products we sell in my shops, we (me) Guarantee ourselves for 12 months.... not a manufacturers guarantee...our own....

    Now to give that guarantee, there are certain makes we wont sell as we see too many failed items.... the main two manufacturers we wont sell are... ASROCK and MAXTOR....

    All the best Brett :)
  44. Like i said, it's your loss, many uk pc shops(online or physical) sell any asrock mobo for different lgas, i guess if it was prejudicial to their finances they would stop selling it, and by the contrary asrock mobos are bestsellers, take my word, they sell a lot on all places in the world, minimal quality complains or failings.
  45. djangoringo said:
    Like i said, it's your loss, many uk pc shops(online or physical) sell any asrock mobo for different lgas, i guess if it was prejudicial to their finances they would stop selling it, and by the contrary asrock mobos are bestsellers, take my word, they sell a lot on all places in the world, minimal quality complains or failings.



    Hi :)

    You obviously know little about business...

    The ONLINE resellers (box shifters) DON'T CARE about customers returns (RMA`s).. they will get their money back from the relevant manufacturer... so they lose nothing,,,, and they have no reputation to lose..

    I CARE about my customers and my reputation for honesty....

    Its kept me in Business for a LOT of years , and although small Computer shops that give excellent service and care about their customers seem to be a dying breed, I must be doing something right to have survived against the "box shifters"

    But you carry on defending the indefensible... and I will carry on selling QUALITY products, and not rubbish...

    All the best Brett :)
  46. I didn't say only the online ones, but also the physical shops around the world...
    I really don't want to discuss any of this any further, asrock has quality it's not a dishonesty selling their mobos nor cheating the customers.
    Asrock has quality and reliability.
    And that's all.
  47. djangoringo said:
    I didn't say only the online ones, but also the physical shops around the world...
    I really don't want to discuss any of this any further, asrock has quality it's not a dishonesty selling their mobos nor cheating the customers.
    Asrock has quality and reliability.
    And that's all.



    Hi :)

    Asrock are rubbish and I will happily defend that statement in any court in the land, AND I have the figures to back it up... how about you, or is it just YOUR personal opinion ?

    All the best Brett :)
  48. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asrock-pegatron-acquisition-motherboard-DIY,18030.html

    "But ASRock is seemingly best known for its motherboards, ranked #3 in the industry"

    Asrock is worth 1000000000000000000000 more than what ever you own.

    And no need to prove in court, the customers are always right, and asrock is one of the best brands for motherboards.
    End of discussion, if you want sue them lol...
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