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August 11, 2012 1:02:21 PM

guys i am lookibg for a 400$ built.. i just wanna play bf3 and all.. i would like a i5 2100 and a hd 7750.. and a suitable motherboard.. or a whole new build..

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August 11, 2012 1:27:17 PM

Do you mean i3 2100? i can try to build you one gonna be hard though
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August 11, 2012 1:39:19 PM

i3 2100- 120$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BIOSTAR H61MGC LGA 1155-50$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7770- 130$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Blue 320gb-65$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HEC 6C28BB8S Black Steel ATX Mid Tower-35$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LITE-ON DVD Burner-17$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500- 60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total comes out to 477$ however you have a pretty dang awsome build but i guess if need be you could drop the 7770 to a 7750...
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August 11, 2012 2:01:11 PM

saurav123 said:
guys i am lookibg for a 400$ built.. i just wanna play bf3 and all.. i would like a i5 2100 and a hd 7750.. and a suitable motherboard.. or a whole new build..


single player BF3 or Multi?

what Resolution is you monitor?

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/353572-31-build-upgra...

fill out this form so we can help you better instead of just throwing ideas you way.
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August 11, 2012 3:35:20 PM

Holy crap that's going to be hard to pull off i will try here Best bang for buck:

GIGABYTE GA-H61M-S2PV(R2.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Pentium G850 Sandy Bridge 2.9GHz - $88
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply - $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600Desktop Memory - $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148488

COOLER MASTER Elite 311 ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


MSI R7770-PMD1GD5 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 - $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

320gb Western Digital Caviar Blue - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X $15 DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Free shipping w/ promo code EMCNBNC39, ends 8/13 Total: $433.00 :) 
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August 13, 2012 3:57:35 PM

guys sorry about the late reply.. i use a sony sdm hs75.. the max res possible is 1280x1024.. its a pretty.old monitor.. so can my monitor handle the build said in the first reply?
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August 13, 2012 4:13:24 PM

1280x1024 is going to play it,m but you'll be at a bit of a disadvantage -- you'll have a narrow field of vision withjits 5:4 aspect ratio, compared to the 16:9 ratio of 1600x900 and 1900x1080 screens, or the 16:10 of 1680x1050.

for $400, you might be better with a Phenom II X4 build, which are End-Of-Life, but am3+ boards will take piledriver late this year/early next year
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August 13, 2012 4:34:49 PM

the first build will pull ultra for bf3 at that res i think. high for sure. but +1 to scrwy
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August 13, 2012 4:39:18 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($21.89 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.46 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Antec 380W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $429.75
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-13 12:38 EDT-0400)
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August 13, 2012 4:43:16 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($21.89 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.46 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Antec 380W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $429.75
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-13 12:38 EDT-0400)
this build would be what i would choose out the three you really can't expect to much for 450 ;) 
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August 13, 2012 4:47:34 PM

ok ill get screw's build.. so can i max.bf3 with this?
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August 13, 2012 4:52:02 PM

and guys.. its okay.. i.can get the first build.too.. so help.me with this.. 1st build or 3rd build? which one can max bf3? sorry i dont know these stuff :p 
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August 13, 2012 5:10:10 PM

@bigco his res is super low :-D
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August 13, 2012 5:10:54 PM

Spicy_benie said:
@bigco his res is super low :-D
oh o.k. well then go with the first build ;) 
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August 13, 2012 5:13:03 PM

I don't know about biostar though are they good i heard they suck but i honestly don't know if that's true i never used their mobos before
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August 13, 2012 11:06:28 PM

Biostar is a bargain brand. I'd rather AS Rock over them (the highest quality bargain brand)
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August 13, 2012 11:22:02 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
Biostar is a bargain brand. I'd rather AS Rock over them (the highest quality bargain brand)
I like Asrock to i consider them like a Generic Asus top notch just cheaper :na:  I think if OP could afford it this would be best let me know what you all think if not then go with either of the other builds but not mine because it has the weakest cpu
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($21.89 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($126.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill REDBONE ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec 380W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $495.28
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-13 19:23 EDT-0400)
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August 14, 2012 2:58:01 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock 960GM/U3S3 FX Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($61.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Pareema 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($21.89 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.46 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Antec 380W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $429.75
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-13 12:38 EDT-0400)


I would choose a more powerful PSU :D 
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August 14, 2012 6:16:29 AM

saurav123 said:
and guys.. its okay.. i.can get the first build.too.. so help.me with this.. 1st build or 3rd build? which one can max bf3? sorry i dont know these stuff :p 


get screwysqrl's Build. you'll want a quad core if you are playing BF3 Multiplayer.

BTW the Antec 380 has plenty of power for that rig. if its in your budget I would always opt for bigger though like a Corsair CX500
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August 14, 2012 6:48:42 AM

jerreddredd said:
get screwysqrl's Build. you'll want a quad core if you are playing BF3 Multiplayer.

BTW the Antec 380 has plenty of power for that rig. if its in your budget I would always opt for bigger though like a Corsair CX500
+1
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August 14, 2012 1:14:40 PM

guys how about an amd fx4100?
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August 14, 2012 4:20:58 PM

fx 4100/6100/8120/8150 will run slower than the 965
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August 14, 2012 5:04:17 PM

thing is, guy, i live india.. and screwy's build would cost me 600$.. thats why i said 400.. very over priced.. still getting your build screwy :)  with an hd7750 though..
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August 14, 2012 7:22:22 PM

For Reference --> Upgrade as you see fit (CPU and GPU)
You can forget the Solid State Drive.



PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eiZz
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eiZz/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eiZz/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Celeron G540 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H61M-P31 (G3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($51.97 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($21.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Zalman N Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($106.97 @ Newegg)
Case: Xion XON-180 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $411.87
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-14 15:23 EDT-0400)


Note: This is all from ONE retailer: Newegg.com
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August 15, 2012 12:46:52 PM

saurav123 said:
thing is, guy, i live india.. and screwy's build would cost me 600$.. thats why i said 400.. very over priced.. still getting your build screwy :)  with an hd7750 though..


where at in India (City)?

you would be better off with a HD 6770 than a 7750 performance wise for BF3. they should be about the same price.

the FX 4100 would be ok for BF, it is slightly slower at gaming than the 965, but it does have 4 cores which is needed in Multiplayer BF3.
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August 15, 2012 1:14:27 PM

rex000 said:
For Reference --> Upgrade as you see fit (CPU and GPU)
You can forget the Solid State Drive.



PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eiZz
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eiZz/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eiZz/benchmarks/
CPU: Intel Celeron G540 2.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($52.99 @ Newegg)

Note: This is all from ONE retailer: Newegg.com


he's from India so partpicker and MIR's won't do it for him. also a G540 is not playing BF3 Multiplayer, maybe single, but not multi
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August 15, 2012 1:39:39 PM


I'll give everyone and idea on prices for a like system in India 56Rs = $1.00

http://www.theitdepot.com/details-AMD+FX-Series+FX+4100...(FD4100WMGUSBX)_C30P12797.html
Rs 7300
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Asus+M5A78L-M-LE+8GB+...
Rs2985
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-G.skill+2GB+(1+x+2GB)+DDR3+1333MHz+Desktop+RAM+(F3-10666CL9S-2GBNK)_C6P12964.html
Rs 1530 (765 x 2)
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Seasonic+430W+Power+S...(SS-400ES)_C14P15084.html
Rs 2815
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Seagate+Barracuda+500...(ST500DM002)_C12P11653.html
Rs 3945
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Cooler+Master+Elite+3...(RC-310-BKN1-GP)_C5P8946.html
Rs 1770
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Samsung+22X+DVD+RW+Sa...
Rp1015
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-MSI+Radeon+HD6770+1GB...(R6770-MD1GD5)_C45P13240.html
Rs 7700
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Rs 29060 = $517.85


lowest price HD 7750 Rs7450
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-HIS+Radeon+HD7750+iCo...(H775F1GD)_C45P14209.html

Lowest price HD 7770 Rs9930
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Asus+Radeon+HD7770+1G...(HD7770-DC-1GD5-V2)_C45P14304.html
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August 15, 2012 1:47:13 PM

jerreddredd said:
he's from India so partpicker and MIR's won't do it for him. also a G540 is not playing BF3 Multiplayer, maybe single, but not multi


You are absolutely correct.

However, what $400 PC CAN play BF3 multiplayer.... The tower I listed is roughly $350 USD, so you can use that last $50 to upgrade the CPU or GPU depending of what that games requires more.

Eitherway, you will probably have to turn down the resolution or the detailing in order to get smooth framerates.
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August 15, 2012 4:05:42 PM

rex000 said:
Btw, I found this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCosN00-cRg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=iyt6o-UvrrU

Seems decent for single-player at least.
FYI, the Radeon HD7750 is on par, if not better than the HD4850/GT440
http://www.hwcompare.com/11819/radeon-hd-4850-1gb-vs-ra...
http://www.hwcompare.com/11760/geforce-gt-440-1-5gb-vs-...


unfortunately Multiplayer Maps aren't kind to dual cores. the i3 2120 fares well because of the SB architecture and the high clock rate, but there is a noticeable loss of FPS. the G850 and up fare well for the same reason, but the lower clocked G series just can't handle all the stuff Multiplayer 64 throws at it. even in those vids you can see the frame rate drop every time there are several moving objects on the screen. when you get into a multiplayer fire fight there is significant drop in FPS and the lag becomes too much to play with (you die a horrible death usually). the AMD quadcores, are as fast as the intel dual core (3-5 FPS slower), but don't suffer any significant loss in Multiplayer. Google "BF3 Dual core multiplayer lag" and read
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August 15, 2012 5:11:01 PM

jerreddredd said:
unfortunately Multiplayer Maps aren't kind to dual cores. the i3 2120 fares well because of the SB architecture and the high clock rate, but there is a noticeable loss of FPS. the G850 and up fare well for the same reason, but the lower clocked G series just can't handle all the stuff Multiplayer 64 throws at it. even in those vids you can see the frame rate drop every time there are several moving objects on the screen. when you get into a multiplayer fire fight there is significant drop in FPS and the lag becomes too much to play with (you die a horrible death usually). the AMD quadcores, are as fast as the intel dual core (3-5 FPS slower), but don't suffer any significant loss in Multiplayer. Google "BF3 Dual core multiplayer lag" and read


Ah I see your point. I'm guessing BF3 Multi-player is one of those games that actually use more than 2 cores.
I just sold my AMD Phenom/Athlon II X4 840 3.2Ghz ($100), and bought an Intel Core i3 2120 3.3Ghz ($115) ... was that a bad move? =\

95% of what I read pointed towards Intel Core i3-21XX performing on par (if not better) an AMD Phenom II X4 (significantly overclocked to 4.0Ghz) when gaming.
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August 15, 2012 7:06:49 PM

rex000 said:
Ah I see your point. I'm guessing BF3 Multi-player is one of those games that actually use more than 2 cores.
I just sold my AMD Phenom/Athlon II X4 840 3.2Ghz ($100), and bought an Intel Core i3 2120 3.3Ghz ($115) ... was that a bad move? =\

95% of what I read pointed towards Intel Core i3-21XX performing on par (if not better) an AMD Phenom II X4 (significantly overclocked to 4.0Ghz) when gaming.



thats true with most games, but BF3, FF XIV, and Mechwarrior Online all demand 4+ cores
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