Will an upgrade / or whole new rig - will get a solution for this ?

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: 3 days to 7 days

Budget Range: NO MINIMUM. Can go to max $850 or even more but would prefer only whats reasonable FIRST.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (e.g.: Folding@Home, gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies) SURFING mainly + Music + a bit of movies. No gaming. Slight video encoding.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes / No
Yes. ABOVE SIZE 23". RES. MIN. 1680 x 1050. Range would prefer $275 to $350 but can extend more if having more features.


Parts to Upgrade: (e.g.: CPU, mobo, RAM) : If can use an older PSU - gigabyte superb 460W then ok but if cant use then will buy new as per advice. Rest all to be bought new.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes / No
Yes will buy Windows 7 Home premium.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, microcenter.com.

Location: City, State/Region, Country - USA.

Parts Preferences: A slight edge to intel.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 is minimum.

Additional Comments: Firefox, chrome, Maybe nuance Home. Not much in gaming.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading:
The desktop should feel snappy, where my current Amd X4 630 (4 cores) still doesnt make me feel satisfied.


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I have a current setup of a old desktop, which i am thinking of upgrading (if possible with more 4gb ddr2 ram at 400mhz) / or replacing (wholly), but am not sure if the problem i am facing will not happen if i build even a new replaced one - see later downwards.

Right now my setup is -

Cpu - amd x4 630 2.8Ghz ( 4 core )
Mobo - biostar ta785ge 128m
Ram - 3gb ddr2 400mhz
Gpu - nvidia geforce gt430
Os - windows 7 home premium 64-bit.
Hdd - 2 wd blue 500 gb and 1 seagate 500 gb
Psu - gigabyte superb 460w psu
Led - 1680x1050 asus 23 inch led

Not the greatest config, but i am a non-gamer and basically have usage of mainly surfing only + music - winamp, some videos, some youtube surfing as well and libre office (used infrequently). Though i am looking forward to buy nuance home naturally speaking, if u guys suggest that its better than windows 7 speech recognition inbuilt in win7.


The problem i am having is my desktop becoming sluggish. Even though i have a 4 core cpu and 3gb ram, the problem occurs that when i browse, my browsers ( all of them - google chrome to firefox to opera to maxthon) start lagging when i visit either more than 40+ sites or some 4-5 a bit heavier sites. Have mainly more than 50+ 70+ tabs opened at all times. But not all those of 50 are the heavy sites - only say 3-10 of them are.

I mainly have used firefox 10.0.1 Portable from portableapps.Com, google chrome v20 portable latest, maxthon 2 and opera portable latest. Firefox has mainly only some 5-6 addons installed and a persona - and they are really good ones and not heavy, so the extensions are not the problem, as i dont keep the heavy ones.


Also the 75% memory used problem in windows 7 is really bad to me - my pc - even if there is everything alright - but as soon as my pc memory is used upto 68% more about - it starts becoming very slow in responding. Did the google research on it and tried both - disabling page file as well as then setting it up as 300mb on c drive + major page file on other hard disk partition - but result has been still that after 70% memory used up - pc becomes quite unresponsive.


Some things that are NOT an issue at all -

1) All drivers are latest (nvidia, realtek). Not too startup programs.
2) Regarding that u may suggest that there might be some viruses / adware / trojans on my pc - i can confirm they are not :

Fresh install of windows 7 10 days back so defragging too surely is out of being the culprit.

For the tuneup softwares - i tried some like tuneup utilities some months back and latestly tried advanced system care pro - but no difference was felt much about.
Regularly use ccleaner for junk files removal.


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Then the thing is i recently tried out my brothers laptop sony viao core i3 - 8 gb ddr memory and tried google chrome and firefox and opera in it, one at a time, but it too after just 10 tabs started lagging and became very slow responding.

So, i am not sure whether my main problem - ie. Using say 2 browsers opened each with 25 - 40+ tabs opened + 5-12 windows explorer folders opened (not ie) + some 5 - 8+ more applications also (like a pim software, rainmeter etc.) - Dont think this is multi tasking, as this all is normal only. I am not sure this problem of lag will go away if i buy a core i5 or i7, as most other people too complain of the computer becoming unresponsive or atleast firefox and chrome if more than 50+ tabs opened at a time.


NOTE -

If the problem will be solved to a great extent just by buying 4 gb ddr2 667 mhz ram (making the total to 3gb existing + 4 gb = 7gb running at 400mhz), then please just tell but only if really are confident of it.

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I am absolutely sure of buying a ssd - But i think ssd will not resolve lag, only make the startup faster.


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So what would you people suggest - i will get over this problem for sure (the 50+ tabs in browsers) by getting a core i5 or more, or is this problem not because of my current setup but most people experience the same sluggishness when opening multiple tabs in chrome / firefox / opera ?


Please don't tell me the normal thing that just because i have an old setup, i will really see great improvement by a i5 / i7. I know that. But my recent try with sony vaio i3 laptop with 8gb ddr3 ram wasn't that a great different experience.


Thanks a lot for your advice and time.
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  1. An i5 isn't really needed for what you do, but on the other hand your current system is so old I wouldn't invest money in it if you can afford a new one. If you want to upgrade it though get more memory.

    Here's something you could get that'll easily outperform your current system for very little money.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i3-2125 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($137.94 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock H61M-GE Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.87 @ Microcenter)
    Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($26.98 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $495.73
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-12 10:28 EDT-0400)

    This should do it.
  2. IS 1600Mhz 8GB DDR3 ram - much much better than a 400Mhz ddr2 8gb ram ?

    I could buy the ddr3 but for that i will have to just buy a new whole system - around minimum $500 for the new rig.


    So whats the choice -

    a) A complete system - COST - $500+

    or

    b) Buy 4GB more DDR2 ram running at 400Mhz - (so that total ram becomes 7GB ddr2 @ 400Mhz in my current pc) - COST will come to be - $60+


    I just WANT REALLY this problems solution to a good extent - if not full extent.
  3. FinneousPJ said:
    An i5 isn't really needed for what you do, but on the other hand your current system is so old I wouldn't invest money in it if you can afford a new one. If you want to upgrade it though get more memory.

    Here's something you could get that'll easily outperform your current system for very little money.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i3-2125 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($137.94 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock H61M-GE Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.87 @ Microcenter)
    Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($26.98 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $495.73
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-12 10:28 EDT-0400)

    This should do it.


    I really like this build for its intended usage. I use a system at work with very similar specs (minus the SSD) and have yet to run into any issues with performance (even with 100+ tabs open in Firefox's nightly build. If you're having memory problems, I'd recommend switching things to that, even with that many tabs of actual content open, it was still well under a gig of memory). If you wanted to save some money, you could even take what parts you can from your old build (e.g. case, optical drive and hard drives) and put them in your new build. That all depends on how tight you want to squeeze your pennies.

    In short, you can get a build that will handle your intended usage for many years to come for under five hundred bucks. If, later, you decide you want to play some games, it should be able to handle many games at playable settings by just adding a decent graphics card.

    In other news, screw the 'd' key on my keyboar
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