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I'm on the verge of buying a p&s camera and am torn between the Nikon
Coolpix 7900 and the Fuji F10. I'd appreciate any and all opinions and
advice please.
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On 1 Sep 2005 14:05:44 -0700, "wavelength" <sbrisendine@gmail.com>
wrote:
>For $50 more, you can get a lot better. Unless you actually think that
>MP = better.
>
>Sony DSC-H1
>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&kw=SODSCH1&is=REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=385790
>
>12x, 36mm-432mm, 5mp, Steady Shot, Focuses as fast as a nikon d50,
>.05s shutter lag.
Thanks for the suggestion but it's too big. I have to have something
pocket sized.
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yoosnet@gmail.com wrote:
> On 1 Sep 2005 14:05:44 -0700, "wavelength" <sbrisendine@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>For $50 more, you can get a lot better. Unless you actually think that
>>MP = better.
>>
>>Sony DSC-H1
>>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&kw=SODSCH1&is=REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=385790
>>
>>12x, 36mm-432mm, 5mp, Steady Shot, Focuses as fast as a nikon d50,
>>.05s shutter lag.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but it's too big. I have to have something
> pocket sized.
I don't know what you use the camera mainly for. If I were you, I'd pick
F10. ISO400 is bearable. I think you'd appreciate the fact that you can
crank up the ISO and speed up the shutter to capture your swift kids or
dogs or taking photos at dust or dawn or a gray day with sufficient
shutter speed.
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On 1 Sep 2005 16:02:37 -0700, "wavelength" <sbrisendine@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I'd go to the dpreview side-by-side at
>http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sidebyside.asp
>
>I'd also add the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FX9 to your list, released on the
>25th for $399 on Amazon.
Thanks for that. I'll investigate the Pana. Only problem is I live in
the UK and the list price is going to be £350 which is approx $600!
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:00:52 -0400, l e o <someone@somewhere.net>
wrote:
>yoosnet@gmail.com wrote:
>> On 1 Sep 2005 14:05:44 -0700, "wavelength" <sbrisendine@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>For $50 more, you can get a lot better. Unless you actually think that
>>>MP = better.
>>>
>>>Sony DSC-H1
>>>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&kw=SODSCH1&is=REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=385790
>>>
>>>12x, 36mm-432mm, 5mp, Steady Shot, Focuses as fast as a nikon d50,
>>>.05s shutter lag.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion but it's too big. I have to have something
>> pocket sized.
>
>
>I don't know what you use the camera mainly for. If I were you, I'd pick
>F10. ISO400 is bearable. I think you'd appreciate the fact that you can
>crank up the ISO and speed up the shutter to capture your swift kids or
>dogs or taking photos at dust or dawn or a gray day with sufficient
>shutter speed.
I want to use it for general snappery. I'm a bit new to photography
and I want something that I can just use for the time being. I suspect
that if I get something easy to carry around and use I might be drawn
in further but if it's initially difficult or lumpy it may put me off.
So it's a noob camera that encourages me that I'm after!
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On 01-Sep-05 14:40, yoosnet@gmail.com wrote:
> On 1 Sep 2005 14:05:44 -0700, "wavelength" <sbrisendine@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>For $50 more, you can get a lot better. Unless you actually think that
>>MP = better.
>>
>>Sony DSC-H1
>>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?A=details&kw=SODSCH1&is=REG&Q=&O=productlist&sku=385790
>>
And of course, this Sony is inferior noisy product compared
to the Fujifilm F10, which is nothing short of sensational
with its low noise and sensitivity up to ISO 1600!
If you like to photograph in available light and in low light
conditions, there is nothing coming even close to Fujifilm's
super CDD sensor. If not, you preferences might vary!
Thomas
>>12x, 36mm-432mm, 5mp, Steady Shot, Focuses as fast as a nikon d50,
>>.05s shutter lag.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but it's too big. I have to have something
> pocket sized.
>
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<yoosnet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm on the verge of buying a p&s camera and am torn between the Nikon
> Coolpix 7900 and the Fuji F10. I'd appreciate any and all opinions and
> advice please.
I'd go for the Coolpix 7900 without hesitation. (I have the 5900,
essentially the same camera but 5 megapixels instead of 7, and I love it.)
One thing about Fuji cameras that puts me off is the xD memory card, which
seems to me a serious design mistake. Small Nikons like the 7900 use the SD
card, which is pretty much the standard, especially for compact and
ultracompact cameras and for many other devices as well. A big advantage to
this is that there's a lot of sales competition, and SD cards are almost
always available at very good sale prices and/or with hefty rebates. The xD
cards on the other hand are invariably more expensive and offer no obvious
advantage (xD cards are a little smaller, but SD cards are already so small
it doesn't matter). And eventually you probably will start accumulating
memory cards.
The Nikon Coolpix 5900/7900 cameras are well built, light and easily
pocketable, make excellent photos (judging by my 5900, and surely the 7900
is at least as good), are extremely easy to use if you're a beginner and
still offer a great deal of versatility when and if you want more control
over what the camera is doing. I have about twenty digital cameras including
several compacts and ultracompacts, and while I love most of 'em, it's
almost invariably the 5900 that gets slipped into my pocket when I want a
camera to carry in that way.
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Nostrobino wrote:
> <yoosnet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:atoeh1l850k814t79pvih3k63k3ja0p84j@4ax.com...
> > I'm on the verge of buying a p&s camera and am torn between the Nikon
> > Coolpix 7900 and the Fuji F10. I'd appreciate any and all opinions and
> > advice please.
>
> I'd go for the Coolpix 7900 without hesitation. (I have the 5900,
> essentially the same camera but 5 megapixels instead of 7, and I love it.)
>
> One thing about Fuji cameras that puts me off is the xD memory card, which
> seems to me a serious design mistake. Small Nikons like the 7900 use the SD
> card, which is pretty much the standard, especially for compact and
> ultracompact cameras and for many other devices as well. A big advantage to
> this is that there's a lot of sales competition, and SD cards are almost
> always available at very good sale prices and/or with hefty rebates. The xD
> cards on the other hand are invariably more expensive and offer no obvious
> advantage (xD cards are a little smaller, but SD cards are already so small
> it doesn't matter). And eventually you probably will start accumulating
> memory cards.
>
> The Nikon Coolpix 5900/7900 cameras are well built, light and easily
> pocketable, make excellent photos (judging by my 5900, and surely the 7900
> is at least as good), are extremely easy to use if you're a beginner and
> still offer a great deal of versatility when and if you want more control
> over what the camera is doing. I have about twenty digital cameras including
> several compacts and ultracompacts, and while I love most of 'em, it's
> almost invariably the 5900 that gets slipped into my pocket when I want a
> camera to carry in that way.
>
> N.
Just to add to your confusion. I've been shopping for a low-end digital
as well and have done a lot of research (Including a lot of questions
for my son, a professional photojournalist who knows his stuff). I
totally agree with the suggestion above that you look at actual images
from any camera you consider buying, if photo quality is of concern to
you. Better yet, look at side by side comparisons. By doing that, I've
picked the Canon A520 as compared to similar Nikons, Olympus and
others. Most of these lower end cameras do some extra color saturation
because most amateur photographers like the colors punched up a bit. I
want a camera that does the least amount of this I can get. So I've
been comparing the pics, and I like the Canon. (Low noise has also been
a big part of this decision). I've tried to find out if certain
manufacturers tend to make all their cameras oversaturate the colors,
or at least their low-end cameras, but I haven't been able to find out
if this is so. So I had to make a camera to camera comparison.
Hope this helps in your world.
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On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:26:12 -0400, "Nostrobino" <not@home.today>
wrote:
>
><yoosnet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:atoeh1l850k814t79pvih3k63k3ja0p84j@4ax.com...
>> I'm on the verge of buying a p&s camera and am torn between the Nikon
>> Coolpix 7900 and the Fuji F10. I'd appreciate any and all opinions and
>> advice please.
>
>I'd go for the Coolpix 7900 without hesitation. (I have the 5900,
>essentially the same camera but 5 megapixels instead of 7, and I love it.)
>
>One thing about Fuji cameras that puts me off is the xD memory card, which
>seems to me a serious design mistake. Small Nikons like the 7900 use the SD
>card, which is pretty much the standard, especially for compact and
>ultracompact cameras and for many other devices as well. A big advantage to
>this is that there's a lot of sales competition, and SD cards are almost
>always available at very good sale prices and/or with hefty rebates. The xD
>cards on the other hand are invariably more expensive and offer no obvious
>advantage (xD cards are a little smaller, but SD cards are already so small
>it doesn't matter). And eventually you probably will start accumulating
>memory cards.
>
>The Nikon Coolpix 5900/7900 cameras are well built, light and easily
>pocketable, make excellent photos (judging by my 5900, and surely the 7900
>is at least as good), are extremely easy to use if you're a beginner and
>still offer a great deal of versatility when and if you want more control
>over what the camera is doing. I have about twenty digital cameras including
>several compacts and ultracompacts, and while I love most of 'em, it's
>almost invariably the 5900 that gets slipped into my pocket when I want a
>camera to carry in that way.
Thanks for that. I've read that the Nikons have problems focussing in
lowlight conditions. Have you found this a problem at all?
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On 2 Sep 2005 08:06:51 -0700, "salgud" <davegb@safebrowse.com> wrote:
>
>Nostrobino wrote:
>> <yoosnet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:atoeh1l850k814t79pvih3k63k3ja0p84j@4ax.com...
>> > I'm on the verge of buying a p&s camera and am torn between the Nikon
>> > Coolpix 7900 and the Fuji F10. I'd appreciate any and all opinions and
>> > advice please.
>>
>> I'd go for the Coolpix 7900 without hesitation. (I have the 5900,
>> essentially the same camera but 5 megapixels instead of 7, and I love it.)
>>
>> One thing about Fuji cameras that puts me off is the xD memory card, which
>> seems to me a serious design mistake. Small Nikons like the 7900 use the SD
>> card, which is pretty much the standard, especially for compact and
>> ultracompact cameras and for many other devices as well. A big advantage to
>> this is that there's a lot of sales competition, and SD cards are almost
>> always available at very good sale prices and/or with hefty rebates. The xD
>> cards on the other hand are invariably more expensive and offer no obvious
>> advantage (xD cards are a little smaller, but SD cards are already so small
>> it doesn't matter). And eventually you probably will start accumulating
>> memory cards.
>>
>> The Nikon Coolpix 5900/7900 cameras are well built, light and easily
>> pocketable, make excellent photos (judging by my 5900, and surely the 7900
>> is at least as good), are extremely easy to use if you're a beginner and
>> still offer a great deal of versatility when and if you want more control
>> over what the camera is doing. I have about twenty digital cameras including
>> several compacts and ultracompacts, and while I love most of 'em, it's
>> almost invariably the 5900 that gets slipped into my pocket when I want a
>> camera to carry in that way.
>>
>> N.
>
>Just to add to your confusion. I've been shopping for a low-end digital
>as well and have done a lot of research (Including a lot of questions
>for my son, a professional photojournalist who knows his stuff). I
>totally agree with the suggestion above that you look at actual images
>from any camera you consider buying, if photo quality is of concern to
>you. Better yet, look at side by side comparisons. By doing that, I've
>picked the Canon A520 as compared to similar Nikons, Olympus and
>others. Most of these lower end cameras do some extra color saturation
>because most amateur photographers like the colors punched up a bit. I
>want a camera that does the least amount of this I can get. So I've
>been comparing the pics, and I like the Canon. (Low noise has also been
>a big part of this decision). I've tried to find out if certain
>manufacturers tend to make all their cameras oversaturate the colors,
>or at least their low-end cameras, but I haven't been able to find out
>if this is so. So I had to make a camera to camera comparison.
>Hope this helps in your world.
Yes, thanks. It's all grist to the mill. I'll go and have a look at
the Canon too. I thought I'd narrowed it down to two :-)
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<yoosnet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:26:12 -0400, "Nostrobino" <not@home.today>
> wrote:
>
>>
>><yoosnet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:atoeh1l850k814t79pvih3k63k3ja0p84j@4ax.com...
>>> I'm on the verge of buying a p&s camera and am torn between the Nikon
>>> Coolpix 7900 and the Fuji F10. I'd appreciate any and all opinions and
>>> advice please.
>>
>>I'd go for the Coolpix 7900 without hesitation. (I have the 5900,
>>essentially the same camera but 5 megapixels instead of 7, and I love it.)
>>
>>One thing about Fuji cameras that puts me off is the xD memory card, which
>>seems to me a serious design mistake. Small Nikons like the 7900 use the
>>SD
>>card, which is pretty much the standard, especially for compact and
>>ultracompact cameras and for many other devices as well. A big advantage
>>to
>>this is that there's a lot of sales competition, and SD cards are almost
>>always available at very good sale prices and/or with hefty rebates. The
>>xD
>>cards on the other hand are invariably more expensive and offer no obvious
>>advantage (xD cards are a little smaller, but SD cards are already so
>>small
>>it doesn't matter). And eventually you probably will start accumulating
>>memory cards.
>>
>>The Nikon Coolpix 5900/7900 cameras are well built, light and easily
>>pocketable, make excellent photos (judging by my 5900, and surely the 7900
>>is at least as good), are extremely easy to use if you're a beginner and
>>still offer a great deal of versatility when and if you want more control
>>over what the camera is doing. I have about twenty digital cameras
>>including
>>several compacts and ultracompacts, and while I love most of 'em, it's
>>almost invariably the 5900 that gets slipped into my pocket when I want a
>>camera to carry in that way.
>
>
> Thanks for that. I've read that the Nikons have problems focussing in
> lowlight conditions. Have you found this a problem at all?
Occasionally, yes. But only a small percentage of the time, and other
digital cameras I've used in low light have had occasional autofocus misses
too. Much depends on the subject. When I take several indoors shots of
unimportant subjects *trying* to come up with a miss, I can't. I've had a
few autofocus misses of people at a table outdoors at dusk, and indoors by
candlelight. Had the same problem (or a bit worse) with my Minolta F300,
which is the other camera I've mostly used for indoors stuff.
Of my compact cameras, I have a sense that the Canon A95 and S60 may be
better focusing in low light because on the LCD they *look* like they're
focusing with authority--the one or more focus indicating squares that
appear promptly (if somewhat erratically) on various parts of the subject
that the camera "likes," for want of a better term. But I haven't really
done enough low-light shooting with either to say for sure, and I'm not too
sure I like the Canon approach anyway, at least at the default auto-select
setting. Often they choose some part of the subject that seems odd and would
not be my choice. Interesting thing to watch, though. And of course, you can
manually select the focus point.
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