considering switch to enchanting

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hello. am currently a lvl 255blacksmith (warrior55) and cant stand grinding
blacksmithing anymore.

theres been some fun times and new things to explore for minerals but now
its a pain. im not too bothered about missing out on making high level
armour/weapons, so was thinking about switching to enchanting. it looks like
something that i would use on my own stuff and can be used to make a bit of
extra money.

what im wondering is enchanting as bad blacksmithing ie grinding up the
levels. any advice? and should i keep blacksmithing and drop mining for
enchanting. or drop both and pick up enchanting and something else? hmm.
what you think? thanxs.

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Hold on, you don't have to be old to take on a life of booze and porn (much
to my wife's chagrin). I was still in college when that kicked in. Too bad
it wasn't part of the curriculum.


"Joe Broke" <JoeIsBroke@YahooNOSPAM7734.com> wrote in message
news:JoeIsBroke-02E0D6.13174426072005@news.supernews.com...
> In article <42e69852$1@news1.homechoice.co.uk>,
> "themamoru" <themamoru@themamoru.homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> hello. am currently a lvl 255blacksmith (warrior55) and cant stand
>> grinding
>> blacksmithing anymore.
>>
>> theres been some fun times and new things to explore for minerals but now
>> its a pain. im not too bothered about missing out on making high level
>> armour/weapons, so was thinking about switching to enchanting. it looks
>> like
>> something that i would use on my own stuff and can be used to make a bit
>> of
>> extra money.
>>
>> what im wondering is enchanting as bad blacksmithing ie grinding up the
>> levels. any advice? and should i keep blacksmithing and drop mining for
>> enchanting. or drop both and pick up enchanting and something else? hmm.
>> what you think? thanxs.
>
> Well, I'm only a level 25 hunter, with skinning and leatherworking as my
> trades. I guess just like in real life, every job eventually breaks down
> to a daily grind. Maybe take up chess or learning to play the piano? How
> about a cooking class at the local community college? Or like all old
> gamers who get tired of the grind, find a nice firl, get married and
> settle down to a life of booze and porn.
>
> Joe

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The problem with enchanting and that's why I don't like it... You can't
sell them in AH. To make money out of it you have to go to AH and yell
every few minutes that you're enchanting, spamming the channel pissing
people off and just wasting time I could be using actually playing the
game.

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or you could do what a jerk warrior we got in a group the other day
did. We started fighting 4 of us in Stockades. My group died except
me, so I waited for them to do the short run from the cemetery, at
which time they added this guy to the group, a warrior. When they
entered the instance, the way to me was already populated, so we said
the group should clear the way to me so I could join, some 4 mobs
separated so no big deal. But then the warrior started charging into
each side room while I waited. After a bit, the room I was in popped
and I died. Sign that this guy was trouble...
Then we found a room with a chest, we all rolled and the guy rolled a 4
(I rolled 94). The guy went to the chest, got the magic stuff and
disenchanted it right there in front of us and then hearthed out.
I guess that's one way to skill up your enchanting, if you don't mind
having the whole server hating you.

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"themamoru" <themamoru@themamoru.homechoice.co.uk> wrote

> theres been some fun times and new things to explore for minerals but now
> its a pain. im not too bothered about missing out on making high level
> armour/weapons, so was thinking about switching to enchanting. it looks like
> something that i would use on my own stuff and can be used to make a bit of
> extra money.

This is true as soon as you're somewhere around 250+.

> what im wondering is enchanting as bad blacksmithing ie grinding up the
> levels.

Hrm. I switched to enchanting 1 or 2 levels ago. So far, I've put about 30g
and maybe 8 hours (farming RFC and SM for items) into levelling the skill,
and I'm somewhere around 130. None of my enchants is of any value (if
someone on sunstrider wants +1 agi on bracers or +5 mana on chest, whisper
me :-p).

If you want easy levelling and high financial benefit of your tradeskill,
there's nothing that's only half as wrong for you as enchanting.

Chris

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Hi,

"Zil" <zen13097@zen.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
42e88e58$0$24491$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Christian Stauffer <wildcard666@bluewin.ch> wrote:
>>
>> If you want easy levelling and high financial benefit of your
>> tradeskill,
>> there's nothing that's only half as wrong for you as enchanting.
>>
>
> Hehe, I'll second that!
>
> I'm now at skill level 286, and it's hard finding people who are
> willing to pay even the cost price of an enchant. For example, I can
> now (just) do Icy Chill, for which the components cost about 32g on
> Stormrage, but nobody seems to want to pay even this much for an
> enchant.
>
> Getting to about 250 wasn't too bad, but that's when it starts getting
> expensive, and if people don't buy the enchants the only way to skill
> up is to enchant your own kit (over and over, sometimes!) which costs
> a lot of money.
>
> Every enchanter that wants to skill up tends to sell enchants at a
> loss, because getting *some* payment is better than nothing. This
> means that it's very hard to make a profit until you hit the level 300
> enchants.
>
> My mage, at this point, had about 130g - Zil has about 60g. I'm sure
> enchanting has been a sink of a large part of that 70g difference ...
>
> But the most annoying thing about my enchanting is that I can't
> enchant the soulbound gear of my alts ... :-)
>
> If anyone on Stormrage wants a good price on an enchant let me know
> (special discounts on enchants that skill me up!)
>
> --
> Zil, 60 NE Priest
> Mustrum, 60 Gnome Mage
> Qia, 28 Human Warior
>

When i go to AH to look for stuff, i offer my enchants with current market
price or offer to do them for free if you bring the stuff i need for the
enchant. Already sold some that way when people see the price of the
componants.

Beeing able to create an enchant stone usable by anybody and not soul bound
would be a great improvment for us enchanter

Terghall
Elune (EU) 55 Orc Hunter

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Zil <zen13097@zen.co.uk> wrote:
> Christian Stauffer <wildcard666@bluewin.ch> wrote:
> >
> > If you want easy levelling and high financial benefit of your
> > tradeskill, there's nothing that's only half as wrong for you as
> > enchanting.
> >
>
> Hehe, I'll second that!

Switching to enchanting "to make money" is just plain wrong. Enchanting is
one of the most expensive professions, you can take...

Just because all those enchanters charge a huge amount of money doesn't
mean it's a money maker. The ingredients are simply that expensive, they
most likely don't make big money.

> I'm now at skill level 286, and it's hard finding people who are
> willing to pay even the cost price of an enchant. For example, I can
> now (just) do Icy Chill, for which the components cost about 32g on
> Stormrage, but nobody seems to want to pay even this much for an
> enchant.

I got Lifesteal (slvl 300) last week and I'm the third (!) enchanter who's
got this recipe on my server's side as far as I know. So I started again to
level up enchanting. Going from 266 to 280 cost me about 150G. (And yes,
"profit" from selling enchants already included). I currently do Icy Chill
for 35G but I don't exactly find a customer immediately. If I need to buy
the ingredients from AH, which is almost always nowadays for the high-level
enchants because you simply don't have them all, you pay the nice premium
AH prices.

So in general: Switching to enchanting because of grinding / cost issues is
.... just wrong. You'll see once you reach the upper 200. It's bloody damn
expensive and it's extremely hard to sell a thing without loss. Especially
on a server where you are the only one.

Now once I reach slvl 300 I have hopes that I'll start making a profit, but
you will need a very rare drop recipe (goes in the AH for an average of
300G BO: 700G on my server) and you'll need a good source of the
ingredients. Then you might be able to make a profit with enchant.

The other possibility is to disenchant items and sell them in the AH. Lot's
of people are doing it and is - in fact - the only sure way to make money
in any case with enchanting. Doesn't level up beyond 80 or so though.

> Getting to about 250 wasn't too bad, but that's when it starts getting
> expensive, and if people don't buy the enchants the only way to skill
> up is to enchant your own kit (over and over, sometimes!) which costs
> a lot of money.

Oh yes. Been doing that frequently. I can't even sell Demonslayer below
ingredient price currently...

> Every enchanter that wants to skill up tends to sell enchants at a
> loss, because getting *some* payment is better than nothing. This
> means that it's very hard to make a profit until you hit the level 300
> enchants.

My experience as well. Might be different on a very new realm if you're
fast enough.

> My mage, at this point, had about 130g - Zil has about 60g. I'm sure
> enchanting has been a sink of a large part of that 70g difference ...
>
> But the most annoying thing about my enchanting is that I can't
> enchant the soulbound gear of my alts ... :-)
>
> If anyone on Stormrage wants a good price on an enchant let me know
> (special discounts on enchants that skill me up!)

I even offer free enchants when people bring the ingredients. All you do
then is however explain what is needed. It's a waste of time, standing all
the time in IF/OG trying to find customers. No grind at enchanting? Ha!

CU

René

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