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August 14, 2012 9:58:37 AM

Hey All,

I know you guys must get sick of people asking you to hand pick PC set-ups for them, but alas I am here to do the same. I used to build my own computers years back, but I haven't dabbled too much in the area for quite a while. I went out and bought a laptop, which i thought i would never do, but it just doesn't cut it for gaming.

As an incentive/reward for your help, if I pick the setup you suggest, I will paypal you $10 upon purchasing the computer!


so here's the copypasta:

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: 1-2 months

Budget Range: PC: 900-1200 (willing to go over, if it makes me happier!) Monitor: 200-300

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Video Editing/Gaming/Music/Blu-Ray/Movies/Surfing

Are you buying a monitor: Yes. I'm going to want a full HD widescreen, with the ability to play older games in 4:3 utilitizing letterboxing so as to maintain the aspect ratio without any distortion


Parts to Upgrade: THE WHOLE DAMN THING!

Do you need to buy OS: YES! Windows 7 ~~ whatever ultimate/home/blah blah blah

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg/Amazon!

Location: Los Angeles, CA 90292

Parts Preferences: I love Intel and NVIDIA!

Overclocking: I'm hoping I won't have to!

SLI or Crossfire: If I can afford it!

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Cool, quiet, and powerful. Doesn't have to look like a work of art, but, if the budget allows it :)  Also, I'll be buying speaker separately so a good soundcard would be grand! I forgot to add that I was looking for a 256GB SSD to boot from and install games, and a 1+ TB Hard Drive for file storage!

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I want a desktop! I've been without for quite a while, and I want to start enjoying gaming and the like as much as I used to!
August 14, 2012 11:29:18 AM

How about this? Just over $1000 but does the lot. Awesome PC if I say so myself. Ability to add a 7770 later on and crossfire it if you want! Let me know if it needs tailoring a little bit towards your specific needs or if there are parts that you would rather go for.

There was no storage specified so I went for 2TB :) 


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eBFp
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August 14, 2012 11:31:15 AM

snorri788 said:
How about this? Just over $1000 but does the lot. Awesome PC if I say so myself. Ability to add a 7770 later on and crossfire it if you want! Let me know if it needs tailoring a little bit towards your specific needs or if there are parts that you would rather go for.

There was no storage specified so I went for 2TB :) 


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eBFp

Looks good, but Id drop the 2TB storage as no one really consumes so much space lol. 500GB-1Tb should suffice, and with the money from the lesser HDD, a better video card could be within reach. -7850-
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August 14, 2012 11:40:49 AM

Put that money away, I do this for fun and for free.

On that budget you will have to choose either good gaming or good editing, as its going to be difficult/nigh impossible to have both. Also you may have to drop your Intel preference, as for editing on a budget, an AMD FX-8150 is the best option IMO.

I'l assume you go with editing, as then its an easy upgrade to a gaming rig, just slot in a good GPU.

CPU: AMD FX-8150. $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It will get close/exceed an i7-2600k for multi-threaded performance, at $100 less. You can overclock this thing as well.

Motherboard: AsRock 970 Extreme3. $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Its a decent budget board.

RAM: G.Skill Ares 16GB 1600Mhz CL9 1.5v. $89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
16GB of low profile RAM at fairly standard speeds. The low profile heatsink will let you add any size cooler you want to the CPU.

PSU: Corsair Builder series 600W. $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Should be enough for this build, if lacking in features. If you want to dual Crossfire/SLI, you will need a 750W.

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM. $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I presume you will need the storage on an editing rig, downgrade to the 1TB if you think you don't.

Case: Zalman Z9+. $53
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Fairly decent case for its price, has most of the features of higher end cases and actually looks decent.

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM. $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
No need for anything above Home Premium unless your a business user who needs the niche features.

That leaves you with $100 for a GPU (which you need since neither the mobo nor CPU have integrated). So it wont be the greatest card ever, I wouldnt expect much performance from it.
Gigabyte GTX550Ti. $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This card is somewhat old, and wasn't all that special then. I would just use it as a display out and maybe for light gaming until you can put something proper in there.

Total: $717
You still got $200 worth of wriggle room if you want a CPU cooler, better case, motherboard or GPU. Maybe add an SSD in (I recommend the OCZ Vertex 4).

As for monitors, I don't keep up with them so I don't know what separates a decent from a great monitor. All I know is 1920x1080/1200 is the resolution to get, look for response times at or under 5ms, and IPS panels reproduce colours better. I'm sure someone here will know what to suggest.
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August 14, 2012 12:00:45 PM

Here's my suggestion, busting the budget a bit. This is because I picked a great case and monitor since they'll last you for years. I also opted for a SSD + HDD storage solution since you said you could go over budget if it made you happier - I'm quite certain it will.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($94.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.86 @ Amazon)
Total: $1247.72
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-14 07:47 EDT-0400)
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August 14, 2012 12:04:55 PM

manofchalk said:
Put that money away, I do this for fun and for free.
Motherboard: AsRock 970 Extreme3. $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Its a decent budget board.


Perhaps for video editing a 990 chipset board would be worth the extra $20 . Also gives better crossfire options.

manofchalk said:
Put that money away, I do this for fun and for free.


Same here. More money to spend on the build too.

How about this as an AMD build instead? Cheaper ($950) and comparable performance. Includes OS and display http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eBJ8
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August 14, 2012 12:15:15 PM

That build would be fine
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August 14, 2012 12:18:54 PM

snorri788 said:

How about this as an AMD build instead? Cheaper ($950) and comparable performance. Includes OS and display http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eBJ8


I'l admit a 990 board would be better, but I think that on this budget that Crossfire/SLI would be a waste. And on my build, you will see a much bigger performance jump by swapping the card out for something newer than adding another card in.

My build was $717, its cheaper even after taking the monitor out of your build.
For video editing (especially if they use After Affects) you need a ton of RAM. Your build only has 8GB.
Only (seems so weird to say "only", its still a lot) 1TB of storage, video editors will have a ton of raw and rendered video on their machine, so you need the added storage.
You have a HD7770 as your GPU, while it would make sense on a budget gaming rig, for editing you need Nvidia cards. Its CUDA cores can help in the editing process.
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August 14, 2012 12:36:11 PM

AMD cards can be used for editing too, not just nvidia.
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August 14, 2012 1:00:34 PM

manofchalk said:
I'l admit a 990 board would be better, but I think that on this budget that Crossfire/SLI would be a waste. And on my build, you will see a much bigger performance jump by swapping the card out for something newer than adding another card in.

My build was $717, its cheaper even after taking the monitor out of your build.
For video editing (especially if they use After Affects) you need a ton of RAM. Your build only has 8GB.
Only (seems so weird to say "only", its still a lot) 1TB of storage, video editors will have a ton of raw and rendered video on their machine, so you need the added storage.
You have a HD7770 as your GPU, while it would make sense on a budget gaming rig, for editing you need Nvidia cards. Its CUDA cores can help in the editing process.


Here's another revision, this time with a 2GB EVGA GTX 550Ti, 2TB of storage and 16GB of memory. $926.53 after rebates and includes a display.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eBQL
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August 14, 2012 1:04:20 PM

Also, this features a DVDRW drive, which is not included in manofchalk's build. If you have one spare then that saves another $18.

Getting it down as low as possible is quite a fun game. Your turn manofchalk :) 
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August 14, 2012 2:25:03 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eC4P

I had to borrow a bit from the monitor, but i think i got you a nice build thats just within your budget.

The 7850 is a very powerful card and will allow you to play on max settings on most games.

The 3570K is a good chip all around.

I wasn't able to fit in a SSD, so i chose the Momentus XT Hybrid Drive to give you some added performance.

Monitor is very good, 24 inches, LED, 2ms

Good Mobo, Reliable and fast RAM, High-Quality PSU

I think this will suit you well,
Good luck on your purchase :) 

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August 14, 2012 2:49:56 PM

mastrom101 said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eC4P

I had to borrow a bit from the monitor, but i think i got you a nice build thats just within your budget.

The 7850 is a very powerful card and will allow you to play on max settings on most games.

The 3570K is a good chip all around.

I wasn't able to fit in a SSD, so i chose the Momentus XT Hybrid Drive to give you some added performance.

Monitor is very good, 24 inches, LED, 2ms

Good Mobo, Reliable and fast RAM, High-Quality PSU

I think this will suit you well,
Good luck on your purchase :) 


manofchalk mentioned that for video editing you really need 16GB of RAM and 2TB of storage. Since vid editing was priority 1 then these are a bit of a must. There's not that much of a benefit running a hybrid drive since you will be moving large, raw, video files into and out of memory and the cache on those drives are simply not big enough. It's better to either get a whole SSD or not at all.
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August 14, 2012 3:53:19 PM

At 800 bucks, I am not sure that you can have do everything rig. The builds seem to be more about editing than about gaming.

IMO if you want to enjoy the latest and most demanding games out you need a gtx 480, 570, 7850 level card. Given the budget a HD 6950 is one of the best options....a good card that will let you enjoy some higher lvl eye candy.

I'd hold off till the gtx 660 hits the market as prices may fall.

AMD vs Intel in a more than gaming rig is a more interesting thing to talk about but I'd still have to go with intel at this point unless you have a program and benckmark that supports the AMD pick. I'd pick up an i7 for your rig but an i5 will have to do given the price constraints.

Once you have that figured out the rest of the rig is easy.
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August 14, 2012 4:15:44 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eCt2
Basically my first build revised.

I scratched the 750GB Hybrid drive, and added a 2TB HD and a 60GB SSD to boot off of. This should be enough for your cause.

Secondly, I removed the 8 GB of RAM and replaced it with 16GB of 1866Mhz RAM, which i found for a great price. This will give you extraordinary speeds while still maintaining the 16GB you wanted.

I kept the 7850 in my build, I think that is the perfect card for you. However, if necessary, you can always switch it for a cheap 7850 (I suggested one of the better but also more expensive models) or for a 560ti.

I hope that build was perfect for you and GL building :) 

EDIT

This build also gives you overclocking potential, a high-quality mobo with a lot of features (its a Z77), and an amazing monitor. With a $200-300 monitor budget, I don't see why people are suggesting $100 monitors. The RAM is faster than all the others suggested, the GPU is beefier, and this build includes an SSD. It is, however, $17 over budget.
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August 15, 2012 5:21:39 AM

Thank you guys for all the replies, I really appreciate all the help! I will be reading over everyones suggestions, looking at reviews and the like.

I did forget to mention, and have edited the original post to mention, storage wise, I'm looking for a 256GB SSD to boot from/install games, and a 1+ TB Hard Drive for file storage!

(mastrom picked a 60GB SSD for $49 that I could possibly boot off of, and then maybe I could buy a 256GB SSD for games and programs + a 2tb HDD for storage? 3 hard drives? is that insane?)

I have also upped the budget from 900-1200, not including the monitor unless absolutely possible!

again, thank you so much for the replies!

p.s. some of you may not want the 10 dollar incentive, but it's 10 dollars I've set aside to thank you guys for taking the time to help me. it's not enough money that i cant duplicate another 10 bucks towards a better brand name stick of RAM or something!
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August 15, 2012 6:26:33 AM

Now we are talking, this kind of cash will get you a great editing and a mid end gaming machine. Though the 256GB SSD is quite excessive, 128GB will easily hold you (I'm actually having trouble filling mine).

CPU: i7-2600k. $290
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I realize the 3770k would be a better CPU (especially in this Ivy optimized rig), but it was too difficult to include the 3770k at this budget without compromising something.

Mobo: AsRock Z77 Extreme4. $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Great board, has all the features you would need.

RAM: G.Skill Ares 16GB (4x4GB). $89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Same kit as before.

PSU: XFX Core edition 650W, 80+ Bronze. $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This will power the rig as it stands quite nicely. You could add in another GPU on this PSU, but I would advise upgrading to 750W before you do so (and going up to a GTX670 will be the better upgrade anyway)

GPU: Sapphire HD7850. $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The HD7850 dominates the mid-range IMO, Nvidia just doesn't have a good competitor at its price (This may change with the 660Ti, but its not out yet).

SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB. $115
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Currently fighting for the fastest SSD on the market, very reliable so far.

HDD : Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM. $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
A single drive isn't ideal for editing though. When you get some more cash, buy another. This is why.
You have one drive to hold your OS and programs (The SSD), another to hold raw footage (a 1TB drive) and the other to have footage rendered too (the other TB drive). This is so during rendering, data isnt being written to and read from the same drive, which will slow things down a bit.

Case: Corsair 300R. $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Very good mid tower.

OS: Windows Home Premium 64bit OEM. $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical: $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Any $20 drive will do nowadays, no one uses discs anymore except for installing Windows and old games.

CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO. $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Great budget cooler, wouldn't be surprised if half the forum had this in their machine.

Total: $1283 (Not including rebates or shipping)
Its a bit over budget, but that will serve as a great machine for editing and will play modern games at max with a decent FPS, especially overclocked.
I am sure the total cost will decrease if you look around for deals or different suppliers, or include rebates (Which I dont, too hard to get to be relied on).

Again, for monitors I have no idea. But I know that a 1920x1080 monitor wont cost $300, so you could siphon a bit of cash into the build.
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August 15, 2012 7:11:06 AM

snorri788 said:

Getting it down as low as possible is quite a fun game. Your turn manofchalk :) 


Oh god, that $717 build was already scraping the bottom of the barrel without getting into unacceptable components. I guess I could point out it didn't incorporate rebates or promo's, of which $75 of yours rely's on.

Drop Windows 7 for Vista? No! Thats unacceptable. Ubuntu?
AsRock 970 Pro3 is $10 less.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Save $10 on horrible looking RAM, same specs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Could get a Spinpoint drive, but they are slower than the Barracuda's, so no.
You could get an AMD FX-8120, with an overclock it would be around an FX-8150 for performance.
If you have the know-how and ability, you could just mount the whole thing to bit of plywood and bolt that to the wall. Save $40 on a case :lol: . I wouldn't actually mind doing this.
http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/pc/how-to-wall-...

Your turn.
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August 15, 2012 7:37:26 AM

manofchalk said:
Oh god, that $717 build was already scraping the bottom of the barrel without getting into unacceptable components. I guess I could point out it didn't incorporate rebates or promo's, of which $75 of yours rely's on.

Drop Windows 7 for Vista? No! Thats unacceptable. Ubuntu?
AsRock 970 Pro3 is $10 less.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Save $10 on horrible looking RAM, same specs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Could get a Spinpoint drive, but they are slower than the Barracuda's, so no.
You could get an AMD FX-8120, with an overclock it would be around an FX-8150 for performance.
If you have the know-how and ability, you could just mount the whole thing to bit of plywood and bolt that to the wall. Save $40 on a case :lol: . I wouldn't actually mind doing this.
http://www.techradar.com/news/computing/pc/how-to-wall-...

Your turn.


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eGo7 $703 is about as low as I could get without comprimises. Using linux does limit you software wise (video editing), and I don't know about your house but having my PC on the wall would likely attract a lot of dust.

If you can get any lower than that then you deserve the gold :) 

Back to the topic though, that i7 build that manofchalk showed off was excellent. Awesome machine!
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August 15, 2012 8:00:37 AM

How the hell did you do that? Thats a good editing rig including a monitor for $700 (not including OS because Linux is a possibility).

Oh thats right, I can get 1.65v RAM since its an AMD build. That'l save me 20c. (that Patrot kit is actually the cheapest on Newegg, damn. Cant find any 2x4GB kits that are less than half of that one, double damn)

450W PSU is cutting it very fine, but it will support the build I made before. Will give 408W on the 12V, so -125W from CPU and say 100W (probably less) from the GPU, then the 30W or so motherboards consume. Got 153W to spare, so it will work. The other rails will be sufficient even without looking.
XFX 450W. -$17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Minus the optical since you can install Windows/Linux from a USB. Heres the instructions on Win 7 to prove its possible. You will need another working PC though. -$19
http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vist...

We are getting desperate.
Savings compared to your FX-8120 rig: $36

Your turn.

Edit:
Why do you always bold my name? Is it so that people wont confuse who you are talking about or are you insinuating something?..

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August 15, 2012 8:18:39 AM

manofchalk said:
How the hell did you do that? Thats a good editing rig including a monitor for $700 (not including OS because Linux is a possibility).

Oh thats right, I can get 1.65v RAM since its an AMD build. That'l save me 20c. (that Patrot kit is actually the cheapest on Newegg, damn. Cant find any 2x4GB kits that are less than half of that one, double damn)

450W PSU is cutting it very fine, but it will support the build I made before. Will give 408W on the 12V, so -125W from CPU and say 100W (probably less) from the GPU, then the 30W or so motherboards consume. Got 153W to spare, so it will work. The other rails will be sufficient even without looking.
XFX 450W. -$17
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Minus the optical since you can install Windows/Linux from a USB. Heres the instructions on Win 7 to prove its possible. You will need another working PC though. -$19
http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vist...

We are getting desperate.
Savings compared to your FX-8120 rig: $36

Your turn.

Edit:
Why do you always bold my name? Is it so that people wont confuse who you are talking about or are you insinuating something?..


The $703 doesn't include the monitor BTW, however that rig is now redundant as well. Feast your eyes on this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eGtU

Drop Windows 7 (maybe re-use a licence on the current machine that is being retired) - or go open source and you have got a editing machine with gaming capabilities for $709 (and that does include a monitor).

And yeah, I bold the name so that people notice who i'm talking about. just trying to be a nice guy. That and your builds look great so bigging you up a bit too :p 
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August 15, 2012 9:30:40 AM

I absolutely love your guys' enthusiasm! obviously the cheaper the better, and the sooner I can make a purchase haha.

I don't necessarily need the top of the line. I'm looking to play BF3 at the highest settings possible without spending 2 stacks on a machine. As far as I know, that's the most graphically demanding game I play right now.

I do not currently use a desktop right now, seeing as the one I have is in storage, and I'm between apartments so bringing it out isn't a priority.

It has a 7950GT in it, and a Core 2 Duo, so that should tell you how old it is!

as i said, the most power i can get for the cheapest amount is preferable, but quality is quality, and that's what i'm looking for, even if a few hundred dollars more gets me there!

also i forgot to add, i meant to clarify that video editing and gaming are pretty much equal when it comes to preference. i may have been a complete spaz and thought it was more important, but I suppose something that will help right in the middle would be great!

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eGEI


this is something i threw together just because i figured i'd give it a shot. any idea if this is any good? and if so, how to shave off a few bucks without compromising the performance?

also i havent picked a soundcard because honestly i dont know if i need one, or which one to get!
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August 15, 2012 3:20:23 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eHl2

It's just under your total budget of 1200+300. Again, I took $100 from the monitor and set it aside for the hardware.

I think that this rig has everything you need. Plenty of storage and a large SSD, a super fast i7 processor with a CPU cooler to overclock it, a generous 16GB of RAM, A massive 24 inch 1080P LED monitor, and best of all, the fastest GPU on the planet: the 7970 GHZ Edition. All the other configs used mid-end cards. That's fine, but for demanding games like BF3 (and BF4 when it arrives), you need the best of the best.

Your getting an amazing build unheard of at your price point. Why settle for any less?

Good Luck
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August 15, 2012 3:56:46 PM

This build is cheaper than mastrom and has 2tb storage, a sata 3 ssd, and an nvidia card for cuda. Also if you live near a microcenter - microcenter.com, then you can get the i7 2600k for much cheaper but it is instore only.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eHtc
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August 15, 2012 4:45:51 PM

^Less Capable GPU, Much slower RAM, Inferior MOBO/ Monitor, PSU has less wattage
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August 15, 2012 4:52:58 PM

Actually for video editing and photo editing the 670 is better because it has cuda cores, you wont notice the difference between 1333 and 1600 mhz ram, and the power supply has enough wattage for 2 way sli what else do you need.
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August 15, 2012 5:38:51 PM

7970GHz cost allot more like $50 or $75 more
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August 15, 2012 6:19:27 PM

polishboy1098 said:
Actually for video editing and photo editing the 670 is better because it has cuda cores, you wont notice the difference between 1333 and 1600 mhz ram, and the power supply has enough wattage for 2 way sli what else do you need.

You're mistaken, the AMD GCN is more powerful in compute tasks. However, nVidia (at the moment) functions better in some real life application because of drivers/optimization. That is however subject to change any moment. Or not, lol.
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August 19, 2012 8:47:42 PM

so with the release of the 660ti, would any of your guys' builds change a bit?

i've been doing a lot of thinking and I feel that gaming at this point might be a bit more important, as the video editing I do isn't that intensive.

with that said, opinions on the 660ti? and keep the builds coming!
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August 19, 2012 11:21:41 PM

also, considering the alienware x51 is around 1000, and does fairly well with most modern games, for that price shouldnt i be able to buy something that wipes the floor with the x51?
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August 19, 2012 11:42:40 PM

GTX 660 ti is a hard call toms has different results than all other professional review sites i am not sure who is right here are benchmarks of most the 660 ti's

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August 20, 2012 2:16:55 AM

The reason the benchmarks on the 660Ti vary so much between sites is that the 660Ti is not very good at AA due to it's memory bandwidth.

If the test site is not using AA, the 660Ti will win hands-down. If it is using AA, then the results become more and more even to the 7870. At high levels of AA, the 7870 becomes the clear winner. Also, the AMD cards do not have as low min FPS. Some people prefer a card that ranges from 20-100 FPS. Personally, i would prefer something that ranges from 30-70. You won't notice the difference between 70 and 100 FPS, but you will notice between 20 and 30.

That being said, the 660Ti has received both excellent and poor reviews. Is the 660Ti better than the 7870? That depends on your personal use. If your playing older or less taxing games and want to play with X8 or X16 AA, than I would go with the 7870. If you are looking for playing games with tons of eye-candy but only X2 AA, than the 660Ti is for you. What would I recommend? I personally think at that price-point, buyers want to play with high AA, and thus, the 7870 takes the lead.

As for the comparison to the $1K Alienware, The build I assembled kills it in almost every aspect. You wanted a PC made for video editing. If you want a PC designed for games, than here you go.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/f5CX
Everything is the same or better, and the GPU wins by a long shot. the only thing you don't get is a keyboard/mouse.

Here's a better value build:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/f5Gr

Amazing GPU, Good CPU with a fan for a nice OC, solid overall build.


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August 20, 2012 8:27:36 AM

You want the 3770k, the k means it has an unlocked multiplier and can be overclocked.

Editing machines will benefit from more RAM (especially in After Affects, whenever I use it my 8GB is used up quite quickly). 16GB is the standard amount for editing rigs.

If Crossfire/SLI is a possibility, 750W PSU.

I personally think the 7870 is better than the 560Ti. When you factor in overclocking, the 7870 can be overclocked very well while the 660ti not so much because you cant alter the voltage (Unless you get an MSI card).

Other than that, pretty good.
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August 20, 2012 9:24:15 AM

so what 7870 should i get instead of the 660ti? if i'm not interested in overclocking, would the 660ti be a better choice? and if so, would the pre-OC'd 660ti be better? and what would be a good choice for ram?
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August 20, 2012 9:55:54 AM

Any from MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte or Sapphire. They all make good cards. Probably if you arent going to be gaming above 1920x1080, or using AA. I personally prefer the 7870 due to its overclock-ability and my general bias toward AMD cards (I'l admit it). And in Australia (Where I live), the 7870 is $40 cheaper, so theres that.

So far the only 660Ti that I know you can adjust voltage on is the MSI, which will let you hit higher clock speeds. But factory overclocks are always quite conservative, I managed to get a 150Mhz boost on the core and 175Mhz on the memory (And I still could go further) on my non-factory OC'd card. I could have paid an extra $20 for a factory OC card that doesn't even hit the speeds I managed.

The RAM you picked the build was fine, just get a 16GB kit.
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August 20, 2012 9:56:09 AM

I think the 7870 is better and it's cheaper too.
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