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August 15, 2012 12:37:53 AM

Due to a recent system failure, I'm in the market for the new computer. I decided I wanted to build my own, since it can save me some money, and it seems like I can handle the challenge. After many hours of pouring through articles, forum posts and skimming newegg, I've come up with the following build:

Intel i5-3570k
GIGABYTE GA-Z77MX-D3H
G.Skill Ares 8GB DDR3
ASUS ENGTX560 DCII
1TB HDD
120GB SSD
Cooler Master hyper 212 cpu cooler
OCZ 700W PSU

All stuffed inside Cooler Master HAF 912 case.

I'm trying to keep the budget to under $1000. Mostly I want to know if it will all fit inside the case and more importantly if all the parts are actually compatible. I'm not sure if there's anything I over looked, but I would appreciate any feed back you guys can offer.

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August 15, 2012 1:06:46 AM

are you going to overclock? i can save a couple of bucks if you dont

also, do you need the OS?
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August 15, 2012 1:35:31 AM

I've never tried overclocking before, but seeing as I plan to use this for gaming I'll probably end up dabbling in it at least a little bit.

I do need to get an OS. Probably Windows 7?
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August 15, 2012 1:52:26 AM

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit will be a good option.



If you're going to get a 560ti, you could get this one for just a few more dollars more on Amazon(it has more cores too):

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-...



http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-Fermi-320-Bit-GDDR5-Suppo...


For the SSD I'd recommend this one:


Sequential read speeds of up to 555 MB/s
Sequential write speeds of up to 515 MB/s
SATA 6Gb/s (SATA 3) connectivity
High performance SandForce SF-2200 SSD controller
Native TRIM support (O/S support required)
BGC (Background Garbage Collection)
Backward compatible?Works with SATA 3Gb/s (SATA 2) systems
RAID Support
85,000 IOPS



http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Force-Series-2-5-Inch-CSS...
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August 15, 2012 1:58:17 AM

The SSD I'm looking at is made by ADATA.

I was told 750W would be excessive. Also the one I'm considering is modular.
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August 15, 2012 2:01:31 AM

Try this...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 600W ATX12V Power Supply ($66.79 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.86 @ Amazon)
Total: $970.08
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-14 21:59 EDT-0400)

I recommend you drop the SSD for now and put as much cash as you can in the GPU. This will help more with performance. The SSD only decreases load times by a few seconds. Personally, I'd rather have the extra fps. You can always add a SSD later as a future upgrade.

The particular PSU I recommended offers plenty of power and is also modular.

HD 7870 benchmarks ===> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...

If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask.
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August 15, 2012 2:02:31 AM

Your decision between the SSD. Corsair makes quality products and always solid, why I love them.

750W is fine if you ever plan to do SLI or get more powerful cards later.

Definitely go modular, it makes things so much easier.
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August 15, 2012 2:02:46 AM

I'd drop the SSD and get a 7850 or 7870 if this is a purely gaming set up - is it?
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August 15, 2012 2:06:31 AM

READ YOUR MESSAGES, I LEFT SOMETHING IMPORTANT THERE-----> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum1.php?config=tom...


Ok, now to the build it self.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: TUNIQ Tower 120 Extreme 90.7 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $971.38
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August 15, 2012 2:12:43 AM

aqualipt said:
READ YOUR MESSAGES, I LEFT SOMETHING IMPORTANT THERE-----> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum1.php?config=tom...


Ok, now to the build it self.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: TUNIQ Tower 120 Extreme 90.7 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($114.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS90 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $971.38


He needs an OS in there too.

Telling them in their private messages to pirate a copy is a big no no in these forums.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/282333-31-read-first
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August 15, 2012 2:18:56 AM

DeusAres said:
He needs an OS in there too.

Telling them in their private messages to pirate a copy is a big no no in these forums.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/282333-31-read-first


What are you talking about? i always left guides in people messages when they say that it's their first build or something like that, i completely forgot that he needed the OS
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August 15, 2012 2:25:00 AM

aqualipt said:
What are you talking about? i always left guides in people messages when they say that it's their first build or something like that, i completely forgot that he needed the OS


Why did you need to post the "guide" in their private messages?
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August 15, 2012 2:26:09 AM

DeusAres said:
Why did you need to post the guide in their private messages?


i wasn't gonna post a sh!t load of videos and guides here :??:  that compilation is huge!
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August 15, 2012 2:27:39 AM

DeusAres said:
I see. Just be careful. Moderators are funny about that sorta stuff.


i know, i just got banned for having a signature too big
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August 15, 2012 2:28:25 AM

I see. Just be careful. Moderators are funny about that sorta stuff.
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August 15, 2012 2:34:33 AM

It's a little overwhelming with all the suggestions pouring in. I guess I should start with a basic question. What should I be looking for in a mother board, apart from the chip set and socket type?

I only chose the one I posted initially because newegg has a combo of it and the 3570k.
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August 15, 2012 2:36:58 AM

Copperdusk said:
It's a little overwhelming with all the suggestions pouring in. I guess I should start with a basic question. What should I be looking for in a mother board, apart from the chip set and socket type?

I only chose the one I posted initially because newegg has a combo of it and the 3570k.


Features, brand, IO panel and overclocking potential.

PS: I KNOW HOW MAKE THE WORDS LOOK BIGGER :lol: 
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August 15, 2012 2:44:51 AM

Copperdusk said:
It's a little overwhelming with all the suggestions pouring in. I guess I should start with a basic question. What should I be looking for in a mother board, apart from the chip set and socket type?

I only chose the one I posted initially because newegg has a combo of it and the 3570k.


You're needs.

No point in paying more for a board when you're not gonna make use of it's features. Most of the time you can get similar features out of a mobo for much less.

The board you originally chose is actually a pretty decent board. I +1 it. I'm not a big fan of mATX boards, but this one even allows for two way SLI which is surprising.
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August 15, 2012 3:09:51 AM

Knowing that the Gigbyte seems like a solid board takes a load off my mind.

I realize I'm probably not getting the best deal possible since I'm trying to order it al from one site, but I'd much rather have the peace of mind knowing everything is shipping at once. With that being said it doesn't look like I'll be able to fit a 7850 or 7870 into my budget. Although I can move up from a GTX 560 to a GTX 560ti.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 15, 2012 3:13:08 AM

Copperdusk said:
Knowing that the Gigbyte seems like a solid board takes a load off my mind.

I realize I'm probably not getting the best deal possible since I'm trying to order it al from one site, but I'd much rather have the peace of mind knowing everything is shipping at once. With that being said it doesn't look like I'll be able to fit a 7850 or 7870 into my budget. Although I can move up from a GTX 560 to a GTX 560ti.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


The 560ti is still a fairly strong card despite it's age. What kind of games do you plan on playing?
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August 15, 2012 3:22:09 AM

Fallout 3/NV, Borderlands 2, Skyrim, Half life 2. To name a handful.

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August 15, 2012 3:32:44 AM

Shouldn't have a problem running those games on high-ultra settings. Borderlands 2 I'm obviously not sure about though considering it has yet to be released.
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August 15, 2012 3:47:55 AM

Good to hear!

I do have one last question before I turn in for the night. Do you know if the cpu cooler will be able to fit in the HAF case without any issues?
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August 15, 2012 4:06:05 AM

It'll fit no problem. Just make sure you get RAM without tall heatspreaders such as the Gskill Ares I recommended. This way you won't run into clearance issues. Other than that, you're good to go. :) 
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August 15, 2012 6:23:17 AM

Last thing you should do is get some random torrent. If you must pirate 7 get an untouched .iso from digital river and a simple 2MB loader from official forum sites. Not some .iso probably filled to the brim with junk.
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August 15, 2012 6:36:41 AM

Smeg45 said:
Last thing you should do is get some random torrent. If you must pirate 7 get an untouched .iso from digital river and a simple 2MB loader from official forum sites. Not some .iso probably filled to the brim with junk.


Can you people not read or something?

It's against the forum rules. He won't have to worry about virus afflicted torrents so long as he purchases a legitimate copy of Windows 7.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/282333-31-read-first
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August 16, 2012 1:46:27 AM

While doing more searching today I came across another case that peaked my interest.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's only marginally smaller (roughly 1 inch in every dimension) than the HAF 912, but at the same time it comes stock with more fans. The thing is, my mother board would only come with two system fan headers.

Where would the additional fans be plugged in? Would I just be better off sticking with the HAF?
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August 16, 2012 2:05:36 AM

id get a antec 302. the problem that the 300 had was it didnt have too much cabling space. the 302 now has a ton of space for cables and usb3
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