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August 15, 2012 4:52:43 PM

CPU Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core $324.99
CPU Cooler Corsair Hydro Series H60 74.4 CFM Liquid $49.99
Motherboard Asus Maximus V Gene Micro ATX LGA1155 $189.98
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 $89.99
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB 3.5" 7200RPM $95.71
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB $399.99
Case NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower $119.99
Power Supply Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V $115.98
Optical Drive Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer $17.99
Monitor Asus VS228H-P 21.5" $136.40
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit)

1631$ Any Suggestions?

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August 15, 2012 5:24:04 PM

Not really - mATX has very limited expansion, the 3770K and 16GB of RAM aren't needed, and the H60 is a waste of money.

You can get a way better system under $1500. I'd suggest this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1473.74
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-15 13:23 EDT-0400)
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August 15, 2012 5:46:55 PM

TheBigTroll said:
if a hyper 212 evo can beat a h60, the h60 is a pretty bad value

what i would get
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/eHVA


I was going to look for benchmarks to prove my point but upon searching I found tons of posts on other forums with people talking about returning their H60s for something else. That kinda says it all doesn't it? :lol: 
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August 15, 2012 5:55:44 PM

Case - COOLER MASTER HAF 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo - ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Storage - SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Storage - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Fan - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU - EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU -CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory - G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CD - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner, Bulk Package Black SATA Model AD-7280S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - Windows 7 64 OEM

Total is 1376 + 115 tax / shipping. I didn't add monitor you pick that lol.
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August 15, 2012 6:48:57 PM

Thanks guys, ill prbably get rid of the h60 and go for the cpu cooler. Also is the Ivy Bridge i7 worth it? I was maybe thinking of going for the 3770 but the price difference isnt very big.
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August 15, 2012 6:51:50 PM

unless you are doing some video editing or rendering tasks, its not worth the upgrade.
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August 15, 2012 7:00:47 PM

Znorfy said:
Thanks guys, ill prbably get rid of the h60 and go for the cpu cooler. Also is the Ivy Bridge i7 worth it? I was maybe thinking of going for the 3770 but the price difference isnt very big.


Not worth it on a gaming system - hyper threading technology won't be fully utilized for several years and even then something new will replace it.

regina_49 said:
Case - COOLER MASTER HAF 922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo - ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Storage - SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Storage - SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Fan - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU - EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU -CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Memory - G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CD - Sony Optiarc 24X DVD Burner, Bulk Package Black SATA Model AD-7280S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - Windows 7 64 OEM

Total is 1376 + 115 tax / shipping. I didn't add monitor you pick that lol.



That RAM won't work with Sandy / Ivy Bridge CPUs - mainly due to the voltage and speeds. Otherwise not a bad build.
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August 15, 2012 7:13:43 PM

So would you guys say ASRock Z77 Extreme4 >Asus Maximus V Gene? And would it be worth it if I save on the processor to go for a gtx 680?
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August 15, 2012 7:17:34 PM

id get a z77x-ud3h if you are getting the extreme4. the ud3h has a few more features and is overall a better board

no, get a 670. the performance gain from a 670 to a 680 is not worth 100 dollars
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August 15, 2012 7:27:19 PM

Ok thanks :)  This is my first build so I just have a alot of questions xD Should I get an SSD for the OS?
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August 15, 2012 7:37:00 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Not worth it on a gaming system - hyper threading technology won't be fully utilized for several years and even then something new will replace it.




That RAM won't work with Sandy / Ivy Bridge CPUs - mainly due to the voltage and speeds. Otherwise not a bad build.
it will work fine but your right i forgot about the cpu warrant thing my bad :( 
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August 15, 2012 8:13:45 PM

TheBigTroll said:
id get a z77x-ud3h if you are getting the extreme4. the ud3h has a few more features and is overall a better board

no, get a 670. the performance gain from a 670 to a 680 is not worth 100 dollars


They're both good boards, the one thing I will say about the UD3H that is kind of frustrating is that there's no USB 2.0 ports - so when you install your OS that will be a bit of a problem. Otherwise it's not that big of a deal.

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it will work fine but your right i forgot about the cpu warrant thing my bad :( 


That's certainly not a bad build at all - but you do have to keep in mind about the voltage, using the wrong voltage on your RAM will cause serious system instability.
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August 15, 2012 8:31:36 PM

What About ASUS P8Z77-V PRO? Or is that overkill?
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August 15, 2012 8:33:52 PM

Znorfy said:
What About ASUS P8Z77-V PRO? Or is that overkill?
I have that mobo it's top notch i love it might be overkill for you though :lol: 
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August 15, 2012 8:36:28 PM

g-unit1111 said:
They're both good boards, the one thing I will say about the UD3H that is kind of frustrating is that there's no USB 2.0 ports - so when you install your OS that will be a bit of a problem. Otherwise it's not that big of a deal.

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it will work fine but your right i forgot about the cpu warrant thing my bad :( 


That's certainly not a bad build at all - but you do have to keep in mind about the voltage, using the wrong voltage on your RAM will cause serious system instability.
Yeah i have heard that but so far i have not had any issues maybe i am lucky or it is just bs not sure which :lol: 

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August 15, 2012 8:43:51 PM

Znorfy said:
What About ASUS P8Z77-V PRO? Or is that overkill?


That one might have Thunderbolt actually which would justify the purchase but if not the LX model will handle all your needs.
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August 15, 2012 8:51:35 PM

I like it, its replacing the Maximus now on my build
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August 15, 2012 8:55:42 PM

And dang it doesnt seem to have thunderbolt.
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August 15, 2012 9:36:13 PM

Znorfy said:
Ok thanks :)  This is my first build so I just have a alot of questions xD Should I get an SSD for the OS?


Yeah - even a 60GB for the OS helps a bit. It's a fairly upgrade that's noticeable in lots of small ways. There's some good deals on 100-128GB SSD's for under $100 now, that'll give you room for both the OS and a few software loads.
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August 16, 2012 4:07:09 AM

So I could still buy thunderbolt expansion card with that board if I wanted it in the future? Also will G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory work with my build?
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August 16, 2012 4:08:34 AM

I don't know why people are hyping Thunderbolt. Honestly, its not going to amount to anything for the desktop market. Its one of those fads that are going to cost a fortune, offer not much for the money, and die quietly and alone. Its like Sony when they released MiniDisk right when portable MP3 players were starting to take hold. Whats a MiniDisk you say? Thats my point. Maybe I'm wrong (but I doubt it), Thunderbolt doesn't really do anything that can't be replaced by already evolving, more efficient, and might I add, cheaper technology.
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August 16, 2012 4:11:00 AM

Any speeds higher than 1600, unless Oced, won't work well with SB/IVB.
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August 16, 2012 4:17:02 AM

Znorfy said:
So I could still buy thunderbolt expansion card with that board if I wanted it in the future? Also will G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory work with my build?
thunderbolt isn't all that but sure if you want to you can and yes the ram will work but you have to change the timings in the bios why not just get 1600 ?
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August 16, 2012 4:20:47 AM

Thunderbolt has the stink of Apple all over it. In fact it is an Apple/Intel collaboration.

Apple is famous for overpriced turds. Look at their personal computers, same features as Dell and HP, and their computers cost 2 and 3 times as much. Do the comparison, or you can see the one I did in this thread.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/357294-31-help-stop-p...
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August 16, 2012 4:29:44 AM

nekulturny said:
Thunderbolt has the stink of Apple all over it. In fact it is an Apple/Intel collaboration.

Apple is famous for overpriced turds. Look at their personal computers, same features as Dell and HP, and their computers cost 2 and 3 times as much. Do the comparison, or you can see the one I did in this thread.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/357294-31-help-stop-p...
wow somebody had a bad day :na: 
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August 16, 2012 4:31:56 AM

I'm just being honest. But yea.. I suppose I am having a bad day. Although despite my abrasive nature, what I'm saying still holds true. Theres just nothing really useful that Thunderbolt brings to the table for the desktop market, maybe the mobile market, but even that is doubtful.
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August 16, 2012 4:37:30 AM

nekulturny said:
I'm just being honest. But yea.. I suppose I am having a bad day. Although despite my abrasive nature, what I'm saying still holds true. Theres just nothing really useful that Thunderbolt brings to the table for the desktop market, maybe the mobile market, but even that is doubtful.
i hear ya was just poking fun at you ;) 
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August 16, 2012 4:41:24 AM

No worries your fine and sorry to hear that
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August 16, 2012 4:41:30 AM

Significant other mentioned took his i5-2300 and left me after 3 years. So, I probably should be avoiding posting on public forums, but I'm sorry if I said anything that came across as snippy.
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August 16, 2012 1:31:29 PM

Znorfy said:
So I could still buy thunderbolt expansion card with that board if I wanted it in the future? Also will G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory work with my build?

it will work fine after going to the bios and setting it up as 1866mhz. i bought some myself for 44.99 (cheaper than 1600mhz so why not). if you cant get that for that kind of price, its not worth it
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August 16, 2012 1:32:47 PM

nekulturny said:
I don't know why people are hyping Thunderbolt. Honestly, its not going to amount to anything for the desktop market. Its one of those fads that are going to cost a fortune, offer not much for the money, and die quietly and alone. Its like Sony when they released MiniDisk right when portable MP3 players were starting to take hold. Whats a MiniDisk you say? Thats my point. Maybe I'm wrong (but I doubt it), Thunderbolt doesn't really do anything that can't be replaced by already evolving, more efficient, and might I add, cheaper technology.


just like firewire
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August 16, 2012 7:52:34 PM

regina_49 said:
thunderbolt isn't all that but sure if you want to you can and yes the ram will work but you have to change the timings in the bios why not just get 1600 ?


I just thought that since I was downgrading from16 gb ram I might as well make my 8 gb ram fast and its 10$ off right now for 49$ so xD
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August 16, 2012 8:15:48 PM

just get 1600mhz ares
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August 16, 2012 8:19:14 PM

Faster RAM costs more, and does nothing in terms of actual performance, even "Benchmarkable" performance is pathetically marginal.

I would not go higher than 1600mhz rated RAM either.
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August 16, 2012 8:22:06 PM

unless you were in my situation where it was cheaper than 1600mhz
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August 16, 2012 8:26:14 PM

True.

Well, the speed on the RAM, (and I think a lot of confusion comes from this for first timers) so I'll clear it up, I'm sure you already know this though.

The speed on the RAM is not how fast it will actually run. It is merely the highest rated speed the manufacturer guarantees it will run at and be stable. Just like when you buy an i5-2500K, Intel only guarantees you will get 3.3GHZ out of it. Yes they typically overclock much higher, but you're not promised anything beyond what you paid for. Such is true with RAM speeds. 1866mhz rated RAM will run at 1333mhz by default on an Ivy Bridge CPU, you can overclock it, but the RAM manufacturer guarantees it will be stable at 1866mhz, but then you have to take into account whether the memory controller on the CPU and the north bridge on the motherboard will allow this to happen. Usually it will, but you're heres that word again, you aren't guaranteed anything beyond factory specifications.
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August 17, 2012 5:47:43 AM

Ill take your guys advice :)  How about my chosen case the Phantom? Is it a good case?
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August 17, 2012 5:51:45 AM

Yep, the Phantom is a good case.
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August 17, 2012 6:08:43 AM

CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core $219.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $34.99
Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 $199.99
Memory G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 $47.99
Storage Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" SSD $99.99
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $77.99
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB $399.99
Case NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower $119.99
Power Supply Corsair 750W ATX12V / EPS12V $109.99
Optical Drive Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer $17.99
Monitor Asus VS228H-P 21.5" $136.40
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit)

What I have right now, disregarding the RAM (its the same price as 1600 so why not) and further suggestions?
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August 17, 2012 6:11:37 AM

That RAM runs at 1.6v. You need RAM that runs at 1.5v or risk damage to the memory controller.
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August 17, 2012 6:43:16 AM

azeem40 said:
That RAM runs at 1.6v. You need RAM that runs at 1.5v or risk damage to the memory controller.
no it doesn't it runs at 1.5v see here http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?SID=thVfeOg2... notice it says $10 off w/ promo code EMCNBJF48, ends 8/20 look at the price of the ram he is getting i am pretty sure it's the same one OP your ram is fine no worries ;) 
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August 17, 2012 10:51:05 AM

Good point i knew that ram is great for oc but never knew it oc that good though but i believe you
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August 17, 2012 1:39:27 PM

ram oc is useless. but then you can so why not?

and if you are looking for the phantom, get the phantom 410 and save yourself some money. you dont need the extra space providied by the phantom
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August 17, 2012 5:13:36 PM

Ill look at that, is everything else looking good?
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