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December 30, 2012 12:18:42 PM

Hi guys.
I'm planing to buy a new system with these configurations:
Mb: ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance (s1155, P67, PCI-Ex16)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Cooler: Hyper 212 Plus or XIGMATEK LOKI SD963(any sugestions maybe)
Ram: 2 x HYNIX 4GB 1600MHz
Gpu: GIGABYTE GTX660 2048Mb GDDR5 192-bit, 1033-1098/6008MHz
Case: COOLERMASTER Storm Enforce ATX no PSU 2 coolers included

Help me please to choose a budget Power Suply for(<100$) . I don't have a very big choice I'm from Moldova and this http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=ru%7Cen&... are all brands and models I can find.

Thank you
If any other sugestions about config. Welcome!
a c 283 ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 2:18:11 PM

d0rel said:
Hi guys.
I'm planing to buy a new system with these configurations:
Mb: ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance (s1155, P67, PCI-Ex16)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Cooler: Hyper 212 Plus or XIGMATEK LOKI SD963(any sugestions maybe)
Ram: 2 x HYNIX 4GB 1600MHz
Gpu: GIGABYTE GTX660 2048Mb GDDR5 192-bit, 1033-1098/6008MHz
Case: COOLERMASTER Storm Enforce ATX no PSU 2 coolers included

Help me please to choose a budget Power Suply for(<100$) . I don't have a very big choice I'm from Moldova and this http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=ru%7Cen&... are all brands and models I can find.

Thank you
If any other sugestions about config. Welcome!


Hi - right at your limit - but an oustanding unit - I'll look for some
for less money, but this is a nice unit if you can spend the money:

http://hard.rozetka.com.ua/ru/products/details/36163/in...

Tom
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a b ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 2:21:31 PM

thats just 80+regular , ive stated a fsp aurum with 80+gold just as good as ur but with higher efficiency, i talt about that one also but id prefer to suggest something with higher energy efficiency.

but that choice is good as well toy :) 

a c 283 ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 2:37:44 PM

iceclock said:
thats just 80+regular , ive stated a fsp aurum with 80+gold just as good as ur but with higher efficiency, i talt about that one also but id prefer to suggest something with higher energy efficiency.

but that choice is good as well toy :) 


Whatever dOrel prefers - the HT is actually bronze, it delivers 642w of +12v
vs 540w of +12v for the fsp. His choice more +12v power or better
efficiency.
Not a lot of decent alternatives 'in stock' at that site.
a b ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 2:50:44 PM

yeah well its in a remote country, what u expect :p 

but i agree both are very good up to op to choose now.

a b ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:03:46 PM

its fine but doesnt leave room for stronger components tho dell.

a c 243 ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:08:13 PM

Sure it does, those specs are only going to max out at around 210 watts DC
a b ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:11:44 PM

thats incorrect.

the cpu utilizes at max 120 when not overclocked when overclocked a bit higher,

videocard is 140W

+ the rest of the system unshur of but its more than u pretend it is.

also i recommand going with atis or nvidias minimum power requirement just to be safe.

a c 243 ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:15:22 PM

iceclock said:
thats incorrect.

the cpu utilizes at max 120 when not overclocked when overclocked a bit higher,

videocard is 140W

+ the rest of the system unshur of but its more than u pretend it is.

also i recommand going with atis or nvidias minimum power requirement just to be safe.

May well be, it's based off the power consumption numbers of the 3570k and 660Ti PEOC that I'm currently testing, so it's probably a little high

I don't play in the land of make believe
a b ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:20:52 PM

no thats just the powerconsumption of a regular gtx 660.

GTX 660 Ti GTX 660

TDP 150W 140W


Manufacturing Process TSMC 28nm TSMC 28nm TSMC 28nm TSMC 28nm

a c 243 ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:26:41 PM

Here's an idea
Get a similarly equipped system and a Killawatt meter and learn a little about actual power consumption
a b ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:29:03 PM

i go with recommanded power consumption, most users dont use a killa-watt meter, and like to go with recommanded power consumption not readings off a meter,

each to there own my friend.

a c 243 ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:32:24 PM

iceclock said:
i go with recommanded power consumption, most users dont use a killa-watt meter, and like to go with recommanded power consumption not readings off a meter,

each to there own my friend.

Correct, I don't care about manufacturers reccomendations
But do not imply that my suggestions are incorrect when you have no idea other than those manufacturers reccomendations
a b ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:34:36 PM

well to put it simply i go with recommanded things, i dont really care to use a killa-watt meter tbh.

ive always gone with recommand specs and works great, and your right i dont know much about killa-watt meters,

ive never used them or feel the need too, thanks for the recommandation.

and i was referring to recommanded power requirement numbers when i said u where incorrect, like u said a killa-watt meter prob more accurate.

cheers.

a c 243 ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:38:04 PM

On and on and on
Do you know the reccomendation for a GTX660 ?
a b ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 3:50:19 PM

it says 140watts thermal usage for the gtx 660, according to u its under that.

December 30, 2012 5:53:11 PM

Thx a lot guys, I wish a have a larger variety of PSU but I am limited.
December 30, 2012 5:56:07 PM

iceclock said:
yeah well its in a remote country, what u expect :p 

but i agree both are very good up to op to choose now.

iceclock if you'll have to choose between FSP Aurum 600 (AU-600)(90$) and Seasonic SS-600ET-F3 600W(87$), which one will you get?
a b ) Power supply
December 30, 2012 7:21:01 PM

the seasonic or the aurum is just as good, but id say first pick seasonic :) 

a c 243 ) Power supply
December 31, 2012 11:33:44 AM

iceclock said:
it says 140watts thermal usage for the gtx 660, according to u its under that.


Yes 140 watts is the TDP of the card, question was " Do you know the reccomendation ? "
Nvidia says minimum 450w with a 6 pin connector ( thier reccomendations are based on a 130 watt I7-930 )
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt...
So does Gigabyte
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

TPU tested half a dozen or so , none made to the TDP under Furmark load.



iceclock said:
the cpu utilizes at max 120 when not overclocked when overclocked a bit higher

The 3570K has a 77 watt TDP, ain't gonna max at 120 with no overclocking, isn't going to hit the TDP at all
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i7-37...
109 watts maxed, with a GTX580 idling on the board
Let's just call it 100 watts after the psu efficiency conversion
Now a GTX580 idles at 33 watts, http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_5... let's subtract that
67 watts with the cpu maxed
Let's add the idle power consumption of a 660, http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_660_Twin_Fro... +7
~74 watts DC with the cpu maxed and an idle video card
Hmm, what happens when we add the 140 watt TDP of a GTX660 with the 67 watts that a basic I5-3570K system draws under full cpu load
Whoa, around 214 watts with the cpu and gpu maxed
:hello: 

a b ) Power supply
December 31, 2012 12:53:14 PM

im talking about maximum utilizations, not minimum. :) 

a c 243 ) Power supply
December 31, 2012 12:58:08 PM

iceclock said:
im talking about maximum utilizations, not minimum. :) 

What do you think LinX and Furmark do to the cpu and gpu ?
Here's a hint, they run them at loads that you wouldn't normally see, umm, maximum utilization I think you would call it, at least I and anyone else who knows what they do would
a b ) Power supply
December 31, 2012 1:03:33 PM

i already agreed with u dell, on the point with a killa-watt meter would read a closer and more accurate reading, but like i said i go with recommanded power requirements and what the manufacturer says it will utilises at a maximum at load.

a c 283 ) Power supply
December 31, 2012 1:24:31 PM

d0rel said:
Hi guys.
I'm planing to buy a new system with these configurations:
Mb: ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance (s1155, P67, PCI-Ex16)
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
Cooler: Hyper 212 Plus or XIGMATEK LOKI SD963(any sugestions maybe)
Ram: 2 x HYNIX 4GB 1600MHz
Gpu: GIGABYTE GTX660 2048Mb GDDR5 192-bit, 1033-1098/6008MHz
Case: COOLERMASTER Storm Enforce ATX no PSU 2 coolers included

Help me please to choose a budget Power Suply for(<100$) . I don't have a very big choice I'm from Moldova and this http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=ru%7Cen&... are all brands and models I can find.

Thank you
If any other sugestions about config. Welcome!


Hi again dOrel - sorry I didn't find a lot of quality choices in stock at
your site.

As far as the discourse occurring on how much power you really need,
I look at the realhardtech PSU requirement table assembled by their
staff with the best of their knowledge. For tot system watts needed
with your GPU it suggests 600w. We know that # to be on the high
side, but it is a good reference. jonnyguru, the top psu review site
actually suggests having more watts than you need is a good thing.

The quality selections on your site actually in stock were very slim.

from jonnyguru:

Power Supply FAQs
Power Supply Basics:

Is there such a thing as "too much power"?

Generally, no. A power supply only puts out as much power as needed by the system's components. In some cases, an 800W power supply may actually use less power from the wall than a 500W power supply, depending on the efficiency of the units. Often times, buying an "oversized" PSU is a good choice due to it's ability to perform even under higher temperatures, a quieter fan because the unit is delivering a lower percentage of it's total capability and considerable system upgradability without having to worry about having enough power when upgrading a graphics card, adding a graphics card for SLI or additional hard drives.

Anyway, I think there were a couple links posted above that will serve you nicely
for your PSU need.

Tom









a c 243 ) Power supply
December 31, 2012 1:31:53 PM

toyftw said:

As far as the discourse occurring on how much power you really need,
I look at the realhardtech PSU requirement table assembled by their
staff with the best of their knowledge. For tot system watts needed
with your GPU it suggests 600w.

Huh ?
http://realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Maybe it's my eye's, that list shows a 430 watt reccomendation for a single GTX660
600 watts for 660 SLi
a c 283 ) Power supply
December 31, 2012 1:36:53 PM

delluser1 said:
Huh ?
http://realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Maybe it's my eye's, that list shows a 430 watt reccomendation for a single GTX660
600 watts for 660 SLi


Dell - you are correct. I had a discussion with someone that had
a gtx 580, and got fixated on it. Yes, a 660 needs 430w.
!