Did ASUS troll me or am i missing something?

[MickeyMicrowave]

Alright, i paid 1000 euro's for a GTX 690 thinking that my days of lagging were over, but that is not what happened. Today while browsing Youtube i found a video of a GTX 670 averaging at about 100 fps in Skyrim, i am getting about 40 fps average. Now is it just me or is there something wrong with those numbers. The 670 is about 400 euro's and the 690 is around 1000, now wouldn't that mean that i should be getting at least around 100 minimum? Lol guess not. I have made several threads prior to this one and both were not very helpful so i am hoping to finally get some answers with this one. Also i forgot to mention that when i disable SLI mode and boot up Skyrim i get the exact same fps as i would be getting with SLI turned on, this is also the case with Crysis. Here are my specs:

Cpu: i7-2600k (Standard clock speeds)

Mobo: Asus p67 extreme6 (B3)

Gpu: Asus Gtx 690

Psu: Cooler Master Silent Pro M2 1000 WATT

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

not to be that guy but, did you make sure everything is up to date on your card? drivers and nvidia suite or what ever its called?

if not go here

http://www.geforce.com/drivers

Yep my drivers are up to date, and previous drivers are no help either.

 

[the great randini]

maybe they had it running on pcie 3.0 you only have 2.0

PCI Express 2.0 = 500 MB/s (5 GT/s)

pci express 3.0 = 1 GB/s (8 GT/s)

pci express 4.0 = 2 GB/s (16 GT/s)

 

[Guest]

is your game totally vanilla no high res DLC or Mods? because skyrim is very variable based on that, my 670 with an OC i5-750 gets about 75 fps with a totally vanilla game, but with all the mods and high res textures ive got enabled its down to 35-40fps, could be the 670 in the video is a pure vanilla, maybe even with some of the performance enhancing postprocessing binaries available for skyrim

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

is your game totally vanilla no high res DLC or Mods? because skyrim is very variable based on that, my 670 with an OC i5-750 gets about 75 fps with a totally vanilla game, but with all the mods and high res textures ive got enabled its down to 35-40fps, could be the 670 in the video is a pure vanilla, maybe even with some of the performance enhancing postprocessing binaries available for skyrim

Yep no mods, just plain Skyrim.

 

[shamsmu]

maybe they had it running on pcie 3.0 you only have 2.0

PCI Express 2.0 = 500 MB/s (5 GT/s)

pci express 3.0 = 1 GB/s (8 GT/s)

pci express 4.0 = 2 GB/s (16 GT/s)

pci express 3.0 vs 2.0 makes no difference whatsoever, there is no gpu as of yet that utilizes the full bandwidth of pcie 2.0 let alone 3.0-

To answer the op, have you tried the R304 beta drivers yet?

What about your fps in other games like battlefield 3, metro 2033, crysis 2 etc.?

Have you tried 3dmark11, vantage, heaven benchmark3?

Maybe skyrim isn't well optimized for nvidia gtx690 drivers yet. You might have to wait a while but they will fix it. Try the R304 beta drivers if you haven't done so already. I you get reasonable fps/ score in those other games and benchmark softwares, then you have nothing to worry about.

 

[the great randini]

also they could have the resolution really low for the recording to boost fps.

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

maybe they had it running on pcie 3.0 you only have 2.0

PCI Express 2.0 = 500 MB/s (5 GT/s)

pci express 3.0 = 1 GB/s (8 GT/s)

pci express 4.0 = 2 GB/s (16 GT/s)

It didn't say what motherboard he was using but i was thinking about the whole 2.0, 3.0 thingy but i wasn't sure if that actually mattered.

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

also they could have the resolution really low for the recording to boost fps.

He was recording at 1920x1080 so it's not the resolution either.

 

[smorizio]

check the pci slot your running the card is showing wiht gpu-z the right speed. should be 16x by 2.0 speed. if it showing 8x or less power down and clean the card contacts and reseat. also make sure you have the newest intel chipset drivers.
one thing too that bottleneck a high end card and game is low amount of ram.

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

check the pci slot your running the card is showing wiht gpu-z the right speed. should be 16x by 2.0 speed. if it showing 8x or less power down and clean the card contacts and reseat. also make sure you have the newest intel chipset drivers.
one thing too that bottleneck a high end card and game is low amount of ram.

I'm guessing you are referring to the Bus Interface? If so, here is what it's telling me:

PCI-E 3.0x16@x16 1.1

I cleaned the contacts and reseated a couple days ago so that's not it. Here is my ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144 And intel chipset drivers? Wut? I have been looking around on the internet and don't really know what you mean. (don't really know that much about all that stuff or computers in general)

 

[smorizio]

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Chipset+Software&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Chipset+Software+Installation+Utility&ProdId=816&LineId=1090&FamilyId=40
also use cpu-z to check your mb has set your ram speed up right.

 

[bystander]

40 average FPS in Skyrim is low for that card, or even a 670, but that doesn't mean anything is wrong. You may have some settings turned up that cause major slow downs. Many benchmarks will not turn "every" setting up. They'll leave a few things down here or there. You may also have some settings turned up too high in the Nvidia control panel.

Perhaps you could run some benchmarks for us. 3Dmark11 running the Performance mode (available in free version) would let us know if there is something wrong with your system.

 

[slhpss]

it sounds amazingly low considering I'm getting stable 60fps (capped) with the high res packs and I only have a 6950 1gb + i5 3570k (stock speeds all settings maxed 1080p)

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Chipset+Software&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Chipset+Software+Installation+Utility&ProdId=816&LineId=1090&FamilyId=40
also use cpu-z to check your mb has set your ram speed up right.

In CPU-Z it says 8192 MBytes so that should be fine too.

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

40 average FPS in Skyrim is low for that card, or even a 670, but that doesn't mean anything is wrong. You may have some settings turned up that cause major slow downs. Many benchmarks will not turn "every" setting up. They'll leave a few things down here or there. You may also have some settings turned up too high in the Nvidia control panel.

Perhaps you could run some benchmarks for us. 3Dmark11 running the Performance mode (available in free version) would let us know if there is something wrong with your system.

Downloading it right now, will be back with results.

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

40 average FPS in Skyrim is low for that card, or even a 670, but that doesn't mean anything is wrong. You may have some settings turned up that cause major slow downs. Many benchmarks will not turn "every" setting up. They'll leave a few things down here or there. You may also have some settings turned up too high in the Nvidia control panel.

Perhaps you could run some benchmarks for us. 3Dmark11 running the Performance mode (available in free version) would let us know if there is something wrong with your system.

SCORE
P13472 3DMarks

GRAPHICS SCORE
16823

PHYSICS SCORE
8753

COMBINED SCORE
7996

The only problem it said i had was that my graphics driver is not approved but the reason for that is probably because it is a new beta driver.

 

[bystander]

That score is good, and what you should see. I only get only a little higher score with two 680's, which won't have the same PCIe restrictions you do, and a little OC'ed. http://3dmark.com/3dm11/3488896

It's not the card. Now what settings are you running in Skyrim? What resolution are you using? Have you changed any of the default Nvidia control panel settings?

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

I maxed out everything, AA set to 8 and AF set to 16 at 1920x1080. I have not changed any of the default settings in Nvidia. But do i set it to ''Let the 3D application decide'', Use the advanced 3D image settings'' or: ''Use my preference emphasizing: Performance or Quality''

 

[bystander]

Try turning AA down to x4 and see if there is much of a change.

Also, do you have issues with any other games?

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

Try turning AA down to x4 and see if there is much of a change.

Also, do you have issues with any other games?

Well i am not getting my minimum fps in Battlefield 3 as promised. The minimum should be 70 but my minimum is about 40, and when i say minimum i just mean flying in a helicopter or jet while looking straight at the map from above. Also Sid Meier's Civilization 5 is averaging around 40 fps, which is about the same fps as my friend is getting. (he has a gtx 460) Even Minecraft is showing problems, with my GTX 570 i would be getting around 400+ all the time and now i can't even get over 300. Also i recently tried the Metro 2033 demo and was only able to get around 30 fps maxed out which again, is less then i got on my 570, so basicly any demanding games that have come out over the last 2 years will lag for me for no reason that i could think of.

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

I turned down my AA from 8 to 4 and somehow i just lost 4 more fps, now that ain't right.

 

[bystander]

Most of the games (all actually) are known for CPU bottlenecking. BF3 in multiplayer will have some low minimums without OCing the CPU (benchmarks usually show single player). Civ 5 is also a CPU bottleneck, and especially Minecraft. Metro 2033 on the other hand is just a major demanding game. I cannot max it out with two 680's. With DoF and PhysX off, I still only get to about 40 average FPS in the game supplied benchmark. The actual game is a lot less demanding than their benchmark, but still demanding.

 

[bystander]

Your Skyrim results are the most interesting. I know there are some bad slow downs with certain settings. I was thinking it may have been AA, but it could have been AF too. Maybe someone else who knows more about Skyrim's behavior could help you.

 

[MickeyMicrowave]

So what could my problem be? Because i'm clueless and i feel like i have been screwed over by ASUS.