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First Build Critique - Looking to buy soon

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August 15, 2012 10:52:29 PM

Hey guys, so I recently bricked my laptop, and it was a sad day indeed. But it was a perfect excuse to build a better desktop. I'm just not 100% sure if everything is compatible or right for what i'm looking for. Any feedback is appreciated, thanks!

Approximate Purchase Date: Tonight/tomorrow
Budget Range: I'd like to stay around 1,000
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, internet usage (no matter how hard I try, I almost always end up with over 100 Chrome tabs and it needs to be able to handle that), multimedia
Are you buying a monitor: Yes
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, amazon - I used newegg primarily to read reviews on everything
Location: South Texas
Parts Preferences: None in particular, whatever works best
Overclocking: Maybe when I learn more
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, not now though
Your Monitor Resolution: Haven't settled on a monitor yet, suggestions are great
Additional Comments: Yes, I'd like it to be fairly quiet, but, while it'd be nice, I'm more concerned about it working well and having high longevity

What I've come up with is:

Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, with 3 fans (49.99, newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD80V2 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard (167.99, newegg)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor (109.99, newegg)
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) (29.99, newegg)
Storage: SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128B/WW 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (119.99, newegg)
Power: PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W (149.99, newegg)
-- I know this is way more wattage than I need, but it's about the same price as the Corsair 750W and has a 7 year warranty and I figure it will keep me going through whatever else I do with it.
Video: EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) (279.99, newegg)
Other: I already have an optical drive, and I'm looking at this monitor for 149.99, though I'm not sold on it yet.

Total, with monitor: $1057.92

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August 15, 2012 11:02:34 PM

not bad.. the PSU is overkill.

a 7850 should perform close to the 570 for about $30-50 less, and use a lot less power.

assuming you do that, you can get away with a 430-500W PSU for a single GPU, 550-600W for crossfire (Corsair 430W, 500W, 600W, XFX 450W, 550W, Antec 380W, 430W, 530W, 650W, Seasonic 520W, 650W)

go for 8 GB over 4 GB (only about $10 more for a Pareema 4GBx2 kit, DDR3-1600, CAS 9: $40.99)

you might want a second, mechanical hard drive for storage

August 15, 2012 11:10:39 PM

The challenger case won an award for being cheap , not good .

In the same sentence they gave it the award they wished they had enough money to afford an antec 300 . The 300 has dropped in price now since the arrival of the 300 TWO


If you want USB 3 front ports at $50 then check out the Antec ONE as well .
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August 15, 2012 11:13:25 PM

You can get a 7870 for the same price as the 570 and it performs better.
August 15, 2012 11:27:14 PM

if you want it quiet, i think you need to rethink your case choice.
pick from this list (or at least related family)
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article75-page5.html

Agree with previous suggestion to rethink psu.

Increase your ram, consider going with 2 x 4GB (8gb totals)
August 16, 2012 12:08:30 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.98 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($279.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor ($136.40 @ Amazon)
Total: $1019.81
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-15 20:01 EDT-0400)

Done and done. No for real, this will serve your games and 100+ tab chrome much better. The ASUS monitor is pretty good, I'd get it, it is a solid choice. Do you have a HDD? the Samsung 830 wont cut it. Also I just threw in a $50 case. There are many good cases for $50, the HAF 912, Antec has some good ones, along with NZXT.
August 16, 2012 1:31:01 AM

So planning to upgrade to the 7870, 8gb ram, and going back to the Antec 300, which I had been looking at earlier.

I know the Intel CPU on that partpicker list is better, but I'm a bit wary of the motherboards for Intel processors, thy don't seem nearly as good (at least not according to newegg reviews) as the AMD ones.

Am I overreacting or should I stick with my AMD processor build?

Edit: I already have an external HDD that I'll be using with my SSD until I can splurge for another internal.
August 16, 2012 3:00:43 AM

Ive never had problems with motherboards in general and have only had Intel. Personally, to me though a motherboard is a motherboard. Granted I worry about sub $100 MBs being too cheap, but also think roughly anything over $200 is just a waste of money, so I am probably not the one to ask. My biggest thing about your original build is the fact that the MB cost more than the CPU and a MB at $170 is way too much for your budget. I think that a $170 MB is for a $1500+ budget pc with no monitors in the build.
First thing to think of is that out of all the pc parts, the MB is the most complex by far, so a lot more to go wrong.
Second thing to think of is that a majority of people only write reviews if the product is super awesome or bad/"something went wrong" experience. So going back to my theory that a motherboard is a motherboard, there really isnt any awesome experiences, but if one little thing goes wrong is reviewed and again there are a lot of possible things to go wrong since it is so complex.

Also, are you really willing to sacrifice a good amount of performance just for a touch better quality/features that you probably wont notice?
August 16, 2012 7:46:42 AM

So I actually had a conversation with a friend who knows much more about this than I do and decided on going the Intel route instead, so now what I have is

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Video Card: GIGABYTE GV-R787OC-2GD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit
Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 750W
Monitor: Asus VS228H-P 21.5" Monitor
Total: $1119.36

I definitely understand what you mean about reviews being primarily only for the negative and I think I got lost in the shiny. Thanks a lot for the pointers. :)  I understand this is about 100 more than it could be, but still what I'm looking for with some room for upgrading and improvements.

Any comments on my final build?
August 16, 2012 6:21:14 PM

I'd get a better monitor. 21.5 seems to be a strange purchase point. most would get a 23 or 24"
August 16, 2012 6:27:59 PM

I'd avoid 24" as it has low PPI.
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