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August 16, 2012 11:14:08 PM

Hey I'm back. So I was using my laptop to play wow and it did this thing that it did with dcuo and swtor. It would not work correctly. If you saw my other topics, I thought it was the wifi. I moved it right in front of the router and it didnt work. I tried it in my bedroom, which is close to the router. The computer was very hot. I think it was the heat which is causing it to not work.

Anyway I'm getting a new one. Should I build or buy. I'm leaning towards building but can anyone recommend parts or a prebuilt. I need every part except monitor including os. My budget is $700. I want all the parts from newegg unless a way cheaper part is on tigerdirect.

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August 16, 2012 11:50:07 PM
August 17, 2012 12:03:32 AM

First time builder uhm? well... i got you covered, buy this:


and go here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum1.php?config=tom...

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3(R2.0) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($217.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($57.08 @ NCIX US)
Total: $715.94
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August 17, 2012 12:09:04 AM

The reason I suggested what I did was because he said that he wanted a computer to run WOW and it doesn't take all that much to do that so I thought the other build would be a cheaper alternative that would still easily fulfill all of his needs.
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August 17, 2012 12:23:32 AM

aqualipt said:
First time builder uhm? well... i got you covered, buy this:


and go here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum1.php?config=tom...

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3(R2.0) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($87.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($217.55 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($57.08 @ NCIX US)
Total: $715.94


That build is 15 over his budget and does not include a copy of windows. There are plenty of pre-built laptops for under 700 that will be more than capable of running wow. Heck you could even get an Acer, Toshiba, or an HP with a trinity apu and 7660g integrated GPU and it would run wow just fine.
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August 17, 2012 12:31:34 AM

lt_dan_zsu said:
The reason I suggested what I did was because he said that he wanted a computer to run WOW and it doesn't take all that much to do that so I thought the other build would be a cheaper alternative that would still easily fulfill all of his needs.


Ohhh i get it... a computer to run world of ... i tough he mean "Wow! build or buy" :lol: 
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August 17, 2012 12:34:34 AM

I wouldnt get the 560 SE (Suck Edition) video card honestly, even though yea it honestly could max out WoW. The Suck edition 560 is actually shittier than the older generation 460.

I'd go 6870 at least for the price range. Should keep you in the right budget range, or close to it. But yea, i3-2120 no problem for WoW.
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August 17, 2012 12:42:30 AM

suck edition....

the xfx 6870 sells fore 144.99 after MIR at newegg
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August 17, 2012 12:44:34 AM

airanp said:
That build is 15 over his budget and does not include a copy of windows. There are plenty of pre-built laptops for under 700 that will be more than capable of running wow. Heck you could even get an Acer, Toshiba, or an HP with a trinity apu and 7660g integrated GPU and it would run wow just fine.

id rather not get a laptop for the reason stated in my first post
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August 17, 2012 12:47:02 AM


wow that looks good but can u put the correct links for some of them. two of them are for the cpu when its not supposed to be. kalganized, the main wow tech guy, says anything past 4gb of ram is overkill and will not affect performance. i am thinking of getting a radeon 6670. the reviews say they max wow and kalganized said it is good. also the utube videos for it max it on wow at 60 fps
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August 17, 2012 12:55:15 AM


u know i was looking at reviews of some of the items and i would prefer a regular atx mobo a regular sized case and a more reliable psu
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August 17, 2012 12:56:36 AM

TheBigTroll said:
suck edition....

the xfx 6870 sells fore 144.99 after MIR at newegg

And thats the direction I'd go if faced between the 560 SE or that.
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August 17, 2012 1:00:53 AM

moosy8 said:
wow that looks good but can u put the correct links for some of them. two of them are for the cpu when its not supposed to be. kalganized, the main wow tech guy, says anything past 4gb of ram is overkill and will not affect performance. i am thinking of getting a radeon 6670. the reviews say they max wow and kalganized said it is good. also the utube videos for it max it on wow at 60 fps

6670s probably will max out WoW to be honest with you, WoW and most other MMORPGs are not particularly system intensive games. That being said, is WoW seriously the only game you're ever going to play on this computer? If so, go with god. But, the 6670 is not a particularly powerful graphics card. Of course it would be silly going with something like a GTX 670 at $400 just to play WoW, but theres nothing wrong with a little bit of overkill on the graphics. Not only for playing other games that may be system demanding, but for the simple fact that you never know if WoW is going to do some kind of update that makes it require a more demanding graphics card.
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August 17, 2012 1:05:15 AM

moosy8 said:
u know i was looking at reviews of some of the items and i would prefer a regular atx mobo a regular sized case and a more reliable psu

Corsair Builder Series are actually very reliable, decent quality power supplies. Now, if you would prefer I stop giving input and come up with an original build of my own, I shall do so.

As far as cases, this is really a personal thing, my advice is to find something you think is pretty, then check out some reviews on it and see if you like it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ePbq

Yes, I used a Phenom II 965 instead of an i3. Personal preference.

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August 17, 2012 1:05:52 AM

nekulturny said:
6670s probably will max out WoW to be honest with you, WoW and most other MMORPGs are not particularly system intensive games. That being said, is WoW seriously the only game you're ever going to play on this computer? If so, go with god. But, the 6670 is not a particularly powerful graphics card. Of course it would be silly going with something like a GTX 670 at $400 just to play WoW, but theres nothing wrong with a little bit of overkill on the graphics. Not only for playing other games that may be system demanding, but for the simple fact that you never know if WoW is going to do some kind of update that makes it require a more demanding graphics card.

trust me a 6530g can run cataclysm fast on low settings. I will not max out anyway. If I can max out fine without lag then I will but I dont need too intense graphics. I play games on low very quickly. Wow might not be the only game but I will not be playing Aion or Allods or FFXIV anytime soon. I'm more of a wow, swtor kinda guy.
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August 17, 2012 1:08:17 AM

nekulturny said:
Corsair Builder Series are actually very reliable, decent quality power supplies. Now, if you would prefer I stop giving input and come up with an original build of my own, I shall do so.

As far as cases, this is really a personal thing, my advice is to find something you think is pretty, then check out some reviews on it and see if you like it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ePbq

Yes, I used a Phenom II 965 instead of an i3. Personal preference.

wow(no pun intended) you're good. that's really what I wanted. It's cheap, not too overkill, but still good. Thanks if anyone would like to comment feel free. I'll be back in five minutes
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August 17, 2012 1:20:20 AM

moosy8 said:
wow(no pun intended) you're good. that's really what I wanted. It's cheap, not too overkill, but still good. Thanks if anyone would like to comment feel free. I'll be back in five minutes

You're welcome.. Oh, and I'm sure there will be at least one crackpot who will show up and act like the i3 is lightyears better than the Phenom II 965 (they aren't), and totally disregard the fact that P IIs paired with a 6870 will max out any popular MMORPG on the market today. :lol: 
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August 17, 2012 1:28:59 AM

nekulturny said:
You're welcome.. Oh, and I'm sure there will be at least one crackpot who will show up and act like the i3 is lightyears better than the Phenom II 965 (they aren't), and totally disregard the fact that P IIs paired with a 6870 will max out any popular MMORPG on the market today. :lol: 


Ask and you shall revice:


There is an 8.4% diference between those 2 CPUs and only a 5% diference between the i3 3240 and the i3 2120... the i3 still wins :lol: 

and dont bring up Bulldozer... i dont want to use an G850 as an example hahahaha

Edit: just to annoy you i am going to say that it's impossible to use an 6870 with a Pentium II CPU because of the chipset that compatible motherboards do not have an PCI-e connection... my job here is done :lol: 
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August 17, 2012 1:32:46 AM

aqualipt said:
Ask and you shall revice:
]http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4900/49109318.png

There is an 8.4% diference between those 2 CPUs and only a 5% diference between the i3 3240 and the i3 2120... the i3 still wins :lol: 

and dont bring up Bulldozer... i dont want to use an G850 as an example hahahaha

Friendly advice, never use Passmark to justify anything on these forums, people will string you up from a tree. All joking aside, seriously, passmark is a friggin joke for benchmarks.

Also, you circled a Phenom II 980 @ $140. I linked a Phenom II 965 @ $99.99. Set multiplier to 18.5x and you get a 980 model for the price of a 965. Overclock to 4.0GHZ, and you get an i3-2120 that gets its asswhopped in multi-threading 4 thread performance, and matched in single core performance.

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August 17, 2012 1:33:33 AM

LOL, oh I see what you did there, you used Passmark on purpose :lol:  Good one, you actually had me going.
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August 17, 2012 1:41:31 AM

nekulturny said:
Friendly advice, never use Passmark to justify anything on these forums, people will string you up from a tree. All joking aside, seriously, passmark is a friggin joke for benchmarks.

Also, you circled a Phenom II 980 @ $140. I linked a Phenom II 965 @ $99.99. Set multiplier to 18.5x and you get a 980 model for the price of a 965. Overclock to 4.0GHZ, and you get an i3-2120 that gets its asswhopped in multi-threading 4 thread performance, and matched in single core performance.

but is he right that the gpu and mobo are not compatible or was it a joke
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August 17, 2012 1:42:38 AM

moosy8 said:
but is he right that the gpu and mobo are not compatible or was it a joke

He was joking lol. I know, I amaze the *** out myself sometimes, but I got you covered, everything is compatible, and like it or not, you'll max the hell out of WoW and Swtor with that build.
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August 17, 2012 1:44:44 AM

Oh, the CPU cooler I put in, thats actually optional, if you don't want to overclock, you can drop it. On the stock cooler, you can OC it to 3.7GHZ by setting the multiplier to 18.5 like I mentioned. The 980 model and 965 are the same CPU, and ship with the same cooler, so you can do that without an aftermarket cooler like the 212+.
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August 17, 2012 1:45:16 AM

nekulturny said:
He was joking lol. I know, I amaze the *** out myself sometimes, but I got you covered, everything is compatible, and like it or not, you'll max the hell out of WoW and Swtor with that build.

do u play with this build or are you using benchmarks or just assuming it will max it out
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August 17, 2012 1:47:47 AM

moosy8 said:
do u play with this build or are you using benchmarks or just assuming it will max it out

I've played WoW before yes, but it really didn't impress me all that much. But yes, I was able to max it out with my system, and the 550 TI is not as good of a video card as a 6870. SWTOR I've never played before, but you can trust me when I say this or not, you'll have no problem maxing it out with that setup. You'll also be able to play a lot of other far heavier games should you decide to do so with that setup. I can run Crysis 2 at Ultra settings on my rig @ 1280x1024, all the COD games fully maxed at the same resolution, so yea you're golden.
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August 17, 2012 2:06:41 AM

700 for WoW, eh? You can get away with the crappiest video card in the known universe as long as it's not onboard/on-die, but you'll want a fairly nice processor.

Here's what I'd do:
Caviar Blue 500GB $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair Builder Series 500W (promo code Corsair15PSU) $51
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Win7 Home Premium OEM $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler Master Elite 430 and Asus Radeon HD 6770 (combo) $152
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ASRock Z77 Pro3 and Samsung 830 Series 64GB (combo) $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Core i5-3570K and Corsair Vengeance 4GB (combo) $249
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Total with shipping: $772.54 (with $50 mail-in rebates).

That puts you slightly over budget, but that machine will absolutely destroy WoW in every possible way and has several easy upgrade paths.
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August 17, 2012 2:11:20 AM

nekulturny said:
Corsair Builder Series are actually very reliable, decent quality power supplies. Now, if you would prefer I stop giving input and come up with an original build of my own, I shall do so.

As far as cases, this is really a personal thing, my advice is to find something you think is pretty, then check out some reviews on it and see if you like it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ePbq

Yes, I used a Phenom II 965 instead of an i3. Personal preference.

i was reading the part reviews and the ones for the hdd, psu, and gpu weren't that good. The 7770 has good reviews and the gtx 550 ti also has good reviews. Those might work, huh?
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August 17, 2012 2:18:46 AM

kaels said:
700 for WoW, eh? You can get away with the crappiest video card in the known universe as long as it's not onboard/on-die, but you'll want a fairly nice processor.

Here's what I'd do:
Caviar Blue 500GB $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair Builder Series 500W (promo code Corsair15PSU) $51
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Win7 Home Premium OEM $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler Master Elite 430 and Asus Radeon HD 6770 (combo) $152
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ASRock Z77 Pro3 and Samsung 830 Series 64GB (combo) $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Core i5-3570K and Corsair Vengeance 4GB (combo) $249
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Total with shipping: $772.54 (with $50 mail-in rebates).

That puts you slightly over budget, but that machine will absolutely destroy WoW in every possible way and has several easy upgrade paths.


+100000
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August 17, 2012 2:25:05 AM

aqualipt said:
+100000

you agree with that build?
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August 17, 2012 2:25:16 AM



Yeah thats fairly similar to what I got on wow, everything maxed except shadows and water. if I had those on ultra aswell I would get around 25-40 fps in bgs/raids.

Athlon 2 x3 445 (stock clocked)
4gb ddr2 800Mhz
6870 Twin Frozr 2

With my onboard video I was able to play it at 60fps on low/medium and with a 5670 I was getting around 60 on high(ish) with no AA/AF/etc.

Just thought I would throw that out there in case it helps :) 
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August 17, 2012 2:26:46 AM

moosy8 said:
i was reading the part reviews and the ones for the hdd, psu, and gpu weren't that good. The 7770 has good reviews and the gtx 550 ti also has good reviews. Those might work, huh?


Anything that is mass produced is going to have a risk of a few bad eggs. Doesn't matter if its a computer part or a toaster oven.

As far as the HDD, Seagate makes decent hard drives, yes they've had some crummy models, but so did Western Digital. My opinion is you can't really go wrong either way. If you want, this one is identical, just its Western Digital. (This is actually the one I have for my main drive, I have a Seagate 2TB as my 2nd hard drive)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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As far as the GPU I linked you to, different companies make the video cards. Theres really only two companies that make the processor for the video cards though. Theres Nvidia and AMD. Sapphire in my opinion makes the best AMD video cards. EVGA and Zotac are the best Nvidia card makers. The way it works in a nutshell is AMD and Nvidia make the graphics chips and designs a "reference card" with them, and sells them to affiliate companies who use the chips and specs to build the card and sell it, and provide all the end-user warranty support. Some of the affiliate companies are better than others. Most of them will not only release a "Reference card" copy, they make some version of them that have beefier coolers and they overclock them.

As far as 550 TIs, I have one, yes it will max out WoW, so if thats what you want, go for it. 7770s actually are better than 550 TIs for the same price though. 6870s are better than both of them.

If you want to see how they compare to each other, here:

550 TI vs 7770
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/541?vs=536

550 TI vs 6870
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/541?vs=540

7770 vs 6870
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=540

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Back to that particular Sapphire 6870 I linked you to. I know of several people on the forums who have bought them based on my recommendation, nobody has told me they were unhappy with it. Personally, I'm looking to ditch my 550 TI with a Sapphire 7870 in a couple months myself, just to "put my money where my mouth is".

As far as the power supply, here is a review done by Hardware secrets on the 430 watt version (its the same design as the 500 watt version I recommended to you)
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-V2...
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August 17, 2012 2:29:18 AM

moosy8 said:
you agree with that build?

Its ridiculously insane overkill for your stated purpose. . But as I say, its your money lol. I could make a very long winded argument while that build is a dumb idea, but I'd prefer not to at this time.
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August 17, 2012 2:30:34 AM

moosy8 said:
you agree with that build?


Hell yeah! that build had SO MUCH upgrading potential and the IGP on the 3570k is more than enough for wow.
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August 17, 2012 2:32:20 AM

nekulturny said:
Anything that is mass produced is going to have a risk of a few bad eggs. Doesn't matter if its a computer part or a toaster oven.

As far as the HDD, Seagate makes decent hard drives, yes they've had some crummy models, but so did Western Digital. My opinion is you can't really go wrong either way. If you want, this one is identical, just its Western Digital. (This is actually the one I have for my main drive, I have a Seagate 2TB as my 2nd hard drive)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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As far as the GPU I linked you to, different companies make the video cards. Theres really only two companies that make the processor for the video cards though. Theres Nvidia and AMD. Sapphire in my opinion makes the best AMD video cards. EVGA and Zotac are the best Nvidia card makers. The way it works in a nutshell is AMD and Nvidia make the graphics chips and designs a "reference card" with them, and sells them to affiliate companies who use the chips and specs to build the card and sell it, and provide all the end-user warranty support. Some of the affiliate companies are better than others. Most of them will not only release a "Reference card" copy, they make some version of them that have beefier coolers and they overclock them.

As far as 550 TIs, I have one, yes it will max out WoW, so if thats what you want, go for it. 7770s actually are better than 550 TIs for the same price though. 6870s are better than both of them.

If you want to see how they compare to each other, here:

550 TI vs 7770
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/541?vs=536

550 TI vs 6870
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/541?vs=540

7770 vs 6870
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=540

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Back to that particular Sapphire 6870 I linked you to. I know of several people on the forums who have bought them based on my recommendation, nobody has told me they were unhappy with it. Personally, I'm looking to ditch my 550 TI with a Sapphire 7870 in a couple months myself, just to "put my money where my mouth is".

As far as the power supply, here is a review done by Hardware secrets on the 430 watt version (its the same design as the 500 watt version I recommended to you)
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Corsair-CX430-V2...

thx ill be back on tomorrow night or morning.
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August 17, 2012 2:35:04 AM

aqualipt said:
Hell yeah! that build had SO MUCH upgrading potential and the IGP on the 3570k is more than enough for wow.

Ah well screw it.. Here goes,

-3570K for WoW and Swtor? Really? You're smoking crack
-Pairing a weak ass 6770 with a 3570K just to add more stupidity in the mix and violates about a dozen unwritten laws of building a gaming PC.
-Saying it has an upgrade path. Yes, lets spend MORE money in the long run replacing intermediate parts and having them collect dust in your house when you replace the chinsy parts with the properly balanced parts your should have bought in the first place.
-a 64 GB SSD? *sigh*, and 20GB of it goes to Windows7 and NTFS formatting *smack*

:hello: 
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August 17, 2012 2:35:24 AM

moosy8 said:
thx ill be back on tomorrow night or morning.

You're welcome.
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August 17, 2012 2:43:51 AM

nekulturny said:
Ah well screw it.. Here goes,

-3570K for WoW and Swtor? Really? You're smoking crack
-Pairing a weak ass 6770 with a 3570K just to add more stupidity in the mix and violates about a dozen unwritten laws of building a gaming PC.
-Saying it has an upgrade path. Yes, lets spend MORE money in the long run replacing intermediate parts and having them collect dust in your house when you replace the chinsy parts with the properly balanced parts your should have bought in the first place.
-a 64 GB SSD? *sigh*, and 20GB of it goes to Windows7 and NTFS formatting *smack*

:hello: 




*Do you seriously think that once he gets his hands on a true gaming PC he is going to keep playing WOW and SWTOR???

*Who said anything about pairing the 3570k with a 6770??? that's an insult.

*Yes, good things cost more...

*Where is the SSD in that build??
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August 17, 2012 2:49:29 AM

aqualipt said:
http://eduncovered.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/thumbs_nigga_you_just_went_full_retard.jpg

*Do you seriously think that once he gets his hands on a true gaming PC he is going to keep playing WOW and SWTOR???

*Who said anything about pairing the 3570k with a 6770??? that's an insult.

*Yes, good things cost more...

*Where is the SSD in that build??


Doesn't matter what I think.

As for the part pairings, obviously you need your eyes checked.
Quote:
Cooler Master Elite 430 and Asus Radeon HD 6770 (combo) $152
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] bo.1032971


Quote:
ASRock Z77 Pro3 and Samsung 830 Series 64GB (combo) $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] bo.1041679


If you're gonna be a smartass, make sure you don't make an idiot out of yourself in the process. :whistle: 
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August 17, 2012 2:52:00 AM

nekulturny said:
Doesn't matter what I think.

As for the part pairings, obviously you need your eyes checked.
Quote:
Cooler Master Elite 430 and Asus Radeon HD 6770 (combo) $152
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] bo.1032971


Quote:
ASRock Z77 Pro3 and Samsung 830 Series 64GB (combo) $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] bo.1041679


If you're gonna be a smartass, make sure you don't make an idiot out of yourself in the process. :whistle: 


hahahahahaha!!! ok ok... you beat me!
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August 17, 2012 2:56:01 AM

aqualipt said:
hahahahahaha!!! ok ok... you beat me!

I got them mad skills. As far as doing all that "upgrade path" stuff. I defer to Linus' wisdom so I don't have to repeat myself. The whole video is worth the watch, but for the issue at hand here, you can just get in the first 2 minutes of the video:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK4ip08auGg
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August 17, 2012 2:56:06 AM

I put the 6770 in there because it will work fine until he wants to play something serious, at which point all that system needs is a better card and it's good to go. You could substitute a 7750 for slightly more.

The 64GB SSD is big enough for Windows, WoW, and a few more common programs. You can drop it and get a 6870, but I'm not sure it's worth losing the load time advantage to go from 60 to 70 FPS.

And as for the 3570k, I was goign to do the 2500k but it actualyl ended up costing more. Anything less than that and I'd do a Phenom II build (which might let you go up to a 128GB SSD or a 6870, possibly both).
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August 17, 2012 2:58:21 AM

^ Ye both are commanded to set aside 10 minutes of your life and listen to Linux from NCIX tech tips lol.
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August 17, 2012 3:01:58 AM

The load time in WoW is not exclusively limited to your HDD btw, its also server limited, an SSD can't do anything about that.
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August 17, 2012 6:03:52 AM

And this is why ^ is one of my favorite advice givers. :) 
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August 17, 2012 10:18:01 AM

I just want to but in and say this. If you have the money for a 6870 > a 7750 100% do it. no questions asked just do. We don't know what performance hit MoP will take or if blizzard will change up the graphics again. True it doesn't take much to run WoW but that doesn't mean you should get a lowend card vs a high/mid range for the cost of 50 dollars. Theres a time when spending less money is actually hurting in the price/performance ratio.

And hey being able to max most games vs being able to only play on medium is definitely worth almost the price of a new game.

So in short if you WANTED to play skyrim or something else that might interest you, you always have the option of playing it on max (there are exceptions. GTA 4, Crysis, BF3 come to mind right off the bat)
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August 17, 2012 12:01:53 PM

Pretty sure everyone will agree that the Corsair PSU we've all been linking is a far more reliable, higher-quality choice than that Cooler Master. Seriously, the Corsair is an amazing deal at $50.

(Mouse is right in that the Seasonics are fantastic too. But the $20 difference between Corsair and Seasonic is basically to upgrade from "extremely reliable" to "exceptionally reliable".)
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August 17, 2012 12:20:59 PM

^ agreed, though the "builder" line of psus are usually rated about 50-100w above what they should be tbh. Even though the ratings are a bit over zealous the build quality is good and there are no noticeable issues with the units so overall if you want to save money by buying the 500w builder unit go for it :) 
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August 17, 2012 12:53:07 PM

Almost all of CoolerMaster's PSUs are low quality. The few that they have that are halfway decent, are easily passed over for higher quality ones in the same price range..... like Corsair builder series.

CoolerMaster has also been known to lie in the past about the capabilities of their PSUs. Stick with companies with a better track record of honesty.
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