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a c 214 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 12:44:20 AM

What are your full system specs?(CPU,RAM,etc.)

I would go for the MSI one.It's only a double slot and cheaper.
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June 28, 2012 12:50:00 AM

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ700SXS 700W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM

Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

LG 22X DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH22LS50

(x3) Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive.

Seagate 500 GB 7200rpm SATA Harddrive

8GB total DDR3 1600mhz FSB
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a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 12:51:38 AM

Get the 7970 if you have no budget...either of them will boost your overallsystem performance a ton.
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a c 106 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 12:56:57 AM

both are tomshardware's personal picks for high end cards and you really cant go wrong choosing one or the other.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 1:26:14 AM

It really depends which games your planning on playing.As both cards trade equal blows depending on the game.I just have a big problem with the 3 slot cards.It's my personal preference but I just think it takes up a lot of space for ctossfire/SLI.Also the dual slot MSI card has better temps than the triple slot Asus card.
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a b U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 1:37:28 AM

MSI better temps than the Asus? Only in crossfire... With one card, the Asus has much lower temperatures unless your computer's ambient temp is higher than the card. Other than that, I would go with the Asus anyway, Asus make great cards and if you have a problem they don't mess around with RMA, they get back to you asap (the one problem I have with MSI and a few other manufacturers)... Also, the Asus will overclock better if you plan to.
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June 28, 2012 1:49:40 AM

Well now, with the new drivers, the 7970 GHz outperforms the 670 by a LITTLE. But wow 80$, is a lot if not planning to run Multi-Monitor 7970s -- there would be no reason to go with the 3GB card -- you won't really need the extra VRAM
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a c 214 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 3:03:54 AM

They actually have the same temps.Which is why I don't see going for the triple slot card.Believe me I like Asus and they make lots of quality stuff.I just don't understand the triple slot cooler.

Yes if you are planning on O.C.ign the Asus TOP cards are binned which means they can be pushed quite a bit further than your average chip.
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 3:23:04 AM

would get that 670 my buddy has one and my goodness it's a beast especially OC but 7970 is great as well and both cards are straight beast you can't go wrong either way ;) 
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 3:28:47 AM

As far as the member that said the 7970 is better it's wrong they are neck and neck purple stank is correct It really depends which games your planning on playing.As both cards trade equal blows depending on the game.
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June 28, 2012 4:16:44 AM

Well looking like maybe MSI. I wont be game multi-screening. Will be duel monitoring for graphic design though.
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June 28, 2012 4:18:44 AM

Both should handle games for 2013 very well right?
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a c 185 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 4:46:13 AM

jeboots said:
Both should handle games for 2013 very well right?

Yes ;) 
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a c 214 U Graphics card
June 28, 2012 5:38:19 AM

As of right now your fine,although a O.C. would only improve your performance.As for future games you will probably have to O.C. your processor.The Phenom ii architecture is almost 5 years old.Making it quite old and even at stock speeds you can see it barely able to keep up anymore.For comparison Intel has came out with 3+ architecture changes since then.
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June 29, 2012 4:05:39 AM

So i figure i should get a monitor...lol. so that drop the video card budget. Here is what im looking at.

looks like I'm getting (maybe) a "HIS IceQ H787Q2G2M Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition" card. AND "ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ Speakers 300 cd/m2 20000 :1 (ASCR
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a c 214 U Graphics card
June 29, 2012 4:06:12 AM

That looks like a really nice combo.I would suggest going for a LED monitor if possible.
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June 29, 2012 4:07:59 AM

purple stank said:
That looks like a really nice combo.I would suggest going for a LED monitor if possible.


Why?
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a c 214 U Graphics card
June 29, 2012 6:23:24 AM

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/led-vs-lcd-monitor.html

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This is because LEDs offer much more gradation in intensity and a larger light wavelength spectrum, giving a truer color quality. These types of monitors offer a better dynamic contrast ratio too. So if you compare LED and LCD monitors from a gaming perspective and other intensive graphic applications, LED monitors are surely better choices, as they provide vivid and more lifelike colors, with better gradation.
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June 29, 2012 8:06:12 AM

Gtx 670= 2gb vram 256bit 920mhz turbos to around 1050mhz i do believe
amd 7970=3gb vram 384bit 920mhz no turbo (or ghz editon which i think is like 1050mhz?

Higher resolutions amd definitely . both are great cards that run pretty much any game on ultra with decent settings (except witcher 2 with ubersamplin) the 7970 ghz is currently the fastest single gpu in the world right now proof? http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-... so yea if you want to have the honour of owning the worlds fastest single gpu get the ghz 7970 and make your friends cry. dont say the 7970 isnt the fastest i put those benchmarks there for a reason. and dont tell me you can oc the 670. same can be done the 7970. just my 2cents both a great so cant go wrong with either
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