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Robert Barnett don't you know spammers are to be despised?

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"Pix on Canvas" <canvaspix@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> Kingdom wrote:
>> Robert Barnett don't you know spammers are to be despised?
>>
>>
>>
> In these groups, telling the group about one of the best tools in the
> world for fixing fuzzy digital images, just getting better is hardly
> spamming... Or perhaps all your photos are pin sharp and don't need
> adjusting?

Whatever they need, I won't buy from a spammer. Keep this trash off this NG,
please.

>
> --
> Douglas,
> My name is but a handle on the doorway to my life.

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On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 18:02:45 -0600, "David Keller"
<davidrodkeller@hotmail.com> found these unused words floating about:

>
>"Pix on Canvas" <canvaspix@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>news:431e0e7d@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> Kingdom wrote:
>>> Robert Barnett don't you know spammers are to be despised?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> In these groups, telling the group about one of the best tools in the
>> world for fixing fuzzy digital images, just getting better is hardly
>> spamming... Or perhaps all your photos are pin sharp and don't need
>> adjusting?
>
>I can't speak for any group cross-posted here except rec.photo.digital, and
>it's charter reads:
>
>1. CHARTER OF REC.PHOTO.DIGITAL
>
> "This group is for the discussion of all aspects of digital photography,
> including digital cameras, scanners, image manipulation software,
> printers, and CD-ROM technology. All postings made to this group should
> conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for
> guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
> commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not
> it is an any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text
> postings) are prohibited."
>
>The value of the product or the current price is irrelevant in that context.
>
>Given the clarity of that charter only a knucklehead would advertise here
>and only another knucklehead would support them in that, and not expect a
>cursory admonishment.
>
Just the fact that it's crossposted, declaims "SPAMmer" !

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"David Keller" <davidrodkeller@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> 1. CHARTER OF REC.PHOTO.DIGITAL
>
> "This group is for the discussion of all aspects of digital
photography,
> including digital cameras, scanners, image manipulation software,
> printers, and CD-ROM technology. All postings made to this group should
> conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for
> guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
> commercial advertisments or other promotional material, whether or not
> it is an any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text
> postings) are prohibited."
>
> The value of the product or the current price is irrelevant in that
context.
>
> Given the clarity of that charter only a knucklehead would advertise here
> and only another knucklehead would support them in that, and not expect a
> cursory admonishment.

CHARTER? We don't need no stinkin" CHARTER!
What kind of total pussy are you to post a charter item?

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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 20:51:00 -0400, Scruff wrote:

>
> "Kinon O'cann" <Yes.it's.me.Bowser> wrote in message
> news76dnRHofP82sIPeRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Pix on Canvas" <canvaspix@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:431e0e7d@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> > Kingdom wrote:
>> >> Robert Barnett don't you know spammers are to be despised?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > In these groups, telling the group about one of the best tools in the
>> > world for fixing fuzzy digital images, just getting better is hardly
>> > spamming... Or perhaps all your photos are pin sharp and don't need
>> > adjusting?
>>
>> Whatever they need, I won't buy from a spammer. Keep this trash off this
> NG,
>> please.
>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Douglas,
>> > My name is but a handle on the doorway to my life.
> You're a moron. This is good stuff and totally PS specific.
> I bought it so your opinion is negated.
It is NOT 'good stuff'! As was pointed out it is against this newsgroups
charter and also doesn't give sufficient info. to be of any use to me
anyway.
Crossposting elim.
--
Neil
Delete delete to reply by email

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Since this was brought up....

I have used both ultrasharpen 6.0 and 7.0 and feel it lost a lot in the
newer version. They changed from using a "glowing edges" based mask to a
"find edges" based mask to gain 16 bit support and in the process, it isn't
nearly as good at finding the objects in an image that need sharpening and
ignoring the ones that don't. The fact it's an action is nice in that you
can stop the action using the esc key and take a brush tool to touch up
either of the sharpening masks and then continue, but the old glowing edges
version worked MUCH better and never seemed to need this sort of touching
up or at least not much. Given sharpening should really be the LAST tool
used on an image, I don't see the use in losing the superior glowing edges
mask to gain 16 bit compliance when you can't really use the 16 bit info to
print with anyway.

I'm sure he got complaints from too many people about wanting 16 bit who
don't understand image processing. The tool would be a LOT more useful if
he supplied a 8 bit version/action of the plugin that used the old glowing
edges type mask.

So now we are back "on topic"?

--

Stacey

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"Kinon O'Cann" <somew@re.over.the.rainbow> wrote in message
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>
> "Scruff" <Get@Grip> wrote in message
> news:296f1$431e3953$d844c720$24107@FUSE.NET...
> >
> > "Kinon O'cann" <Yes.it's.me.Bowser> wrote in message
> > news76dnRHofP82sIPeRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Pix on Canvas" <canvaspix@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> >> news:431e0e7d@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> >> > Kingdom wrote:
> >> >> Robert Barnett don't you know spammers are to be despised?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > In these groups, telling the group about one of the best tools in the
> >> > world for fixing fuzzy digital images, just getting better is hardly
> >> > spamming... Or perhaps all your photos are pin sharp and don't need
> >> > adjusting?
> >>
> >> Whatever they need, I won't buy from a spammer. Keep this trash off
this
> > NG,
> >> please.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Douglas,
> >> > My name is but a handle on the doorway to my life.
> > You're a moron. This is good stuff and totally PS specific.
> > I bought it so your opinion is negated.
>
> Good. Support spammers. Enhance your trash pix. Insult people for no
reason.
>
> Jackass.
Troll

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Oh, for gods sake people. Why do we have to act like 2 years olds. I get it.
Some of you don't mind the post, others do. That is no reason to get nasty
with each other. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and no ones is wrong.

However, when you all start the name calling it makes the newsgroup a very
unpleasant place to be.

I am sorry I posted the message. I just thought someone might want to know.

Robert

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"Ultra-Sharpen" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Oh, for gods sake people. Why do we have to act like 2 years olds. I get
it.
> Some of you don't mind the post, others do. That is no reason to get nasty
> with each other. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and no ones is
wrong.
>
> However, when you all start the name calling it makes the newsgroup a very
> unpleasant place to be.
>
> I am sorry I posted the message. I just thought someone might want to
know.
>
> Robert
I did, and thank you.

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"Ultra-Sharpen" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I wouldn't talk about trash on this newsgroup. Hell they are talking about
>Gilligan, Would you kill a looter, Land of free my ass and more.
>
> At least my "spam" was on topic for Photoshop.

Spam is never on topic in a non-marketplace NG, and you know that. Again,
please keep your advertising and spam where it belongs. And keep your GD
sock puppet scruffy off this NG as well.

>
> Robert
>

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"Scruff" <Get@Grip> wrote in message
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>
> Oooh! I have a newbie NG Stalker!

Please...

> Why don't you hook up with Charter Boy and have a nice circle jerk on the
> Usenet Bill of Rights.

Which one is charter boy? Maybe you can hook up with spammer boy and have a
nice 69.

> Oh, by the way, watch out behind you, the head librarian may be watching
> you.

Nah, got it covered.

>
>

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"Ultra-Sharpen" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> As for the charter, maybe they should enforce it better by stopping the
> off topic posts that have nothing to do with Photography.

It doesn't exclude off-topic posts or "namecalling" posts per se, it leaves
them to the standards of usenet. And the standards of Usenet is that
subjects like that are tolerated until the current readership decides to
address it in real-time.

Where did you get the idea that off-topic posts are the same as
advertisements and promotions?

> Maybe they should stop the name calling posts and the like.

Your post wasn't criticized for any other reason than it was commercial and
promotional. You know that, and you should have expected the reaction. And
on that point the wishes of the charter are clear as a bell:

"This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisments or
other promotional material, whether or not it is an any way related to
photography."

> Maybe then people might take the charter more seriously. Until that
> happens it is more a joke than something that should be paid attention
> too.

That depends on whether or not you are able to read and comprehend it's
intent. So in your case you either couldn't or didn't care. But the bottom
line is that there is nothing wrong with the charter or how it is applied by
the readership.

By the way, I find it interesting that your reply address is for the purpose
of protecting yourself from people like yourself :^)

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<kashe@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 07:56:14 -0400, "Kinon O'Cann"
> <somew@re.over.the.rainbow> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Scruff" <Get@Grip> wrote in message
> >news:296f1$431e3953$d844c720$24107@FUSE.NET...
> >>
> >> "Kinon O'cann" <Yes.it's.me.Bowser> wrote in message
> >> news76dnRHofP82sIPeRVn-1Q@comcast.com...
> >>>
> >>> "Pix on Canvas" <canvaspix@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> >>> news:431e0e7d@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> >>> > Kingdom wrote:
> >>> >> Robert Barnett don't you know spammers are to be despised?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> > In these groups, telling the group about one of the best tools in
the
> >>> > world for fixing fuzzy digital images, just getting better is hardly
> >>> > spamming... Or perhaps all your photos are pin sharp and don't need
> >>> > adjusting?
> >>>
> >>> Whatever they need, I won't buy from a spammer. Keep this trash off
this
> >> NG,
> >>> please.
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Douglas,
> >>> > My name is but a handle on the doorway to my life.
> >> You're a moron. This is good stuff and totally PS specific.
> >> I bought it so your opinion is negated.
> >
> >Good. Support spammers. Enhance your trash pix. Insult people for no
reason.
> >
> >Jackass.
>
> Touchy little hing. Disagree with him and he spills all your
> putative character flaws. Earn new and exciting epithets.

It's what mental midgets do.

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"Shitin A'Cann" <somew@re.over.the.rainbow> wrote in message
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>
> "Ultra-Sharpen" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:BMETe.12512$p%3.50565@typhoon.sonic.net...
> >I wouldn't talk about trash on this newsgroup. Hell they are talking
about
> >Gilligan, Would you kill a looter, Land of free my ass and more.
> >
> > At least my "spam" was on topic for Photoshop.
>
> Spam is never on topic in a non-marketplace NG, and you know that. Again,
> please keep your advertising and spam where it belongs. And keep your GD
> sock puppet scruffy off this NG as well.

Thank god a loser like you doesn't get to decide who posts where.I'm sure
you think you
are some kind of wannabe Usenet cop but sorry to burst your bubble.
You are utterly powerless, on top of being weak-minded.

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"Kinon O'Cann" <somew@re.over.the.rainbow> wrote in message
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>
> "Scruff" <Get@Grip> wrote in message
> news:5a61b$431ee1cd$422ab6a4$15765@FUSE.NET...
> >
> > Oooh! I have a newbie NG Stalker!
>
> Please...
>
> > Why don't you hook up with Charter Boy and have a nice circle jerk on
the
> > Usenet Bill of Rights.
>
> Which one is charter boy?
So you want to be introduced? Big shocker.

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<nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> But, then on the other hand. I put AD: in the subject line and did force
> anyone to read it.

"This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisements or
other promotional material, whether or not it is an any way related to
photography."

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AFAIC,

Anyone who violates a Newsgroup Charter to advertise their commercial
product...

....kharmatically deserves to have their product illegally pirated.


Its a case where "two wrongs = poetic justice".


-hh

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Kinon O'Cann wrote:

>
> Insult people for no
> reason.
>
> Jackass.
>


LOL! :-)

--

Stacey