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August 19, 2012 8:09:53 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: $500-700 After Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, surfing the internet

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: None really, but shipping adds up.

Location: UT

Parts Preferences: None

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: Probably 1280x1024 at least

Additional Comments: Mostly used for WOW, other light gaming and web browsing.

Why Are You Upgrading: Wife's laptop died, probably due to son playing WOW on it so often.
I need to get him something with better cooling for low end gaming.

I am completely new to building a PC, so any and all help is appreciated.
I already have to replace/fix my wife's laptop that has lost the function of multiple keys, I assume from overheating issues related to extended WOW play by my son, thus I have a limited budget.

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a b Ý World of Warcraft
August 19, 2012 9:15:10 AM

Check out my $400 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
OS: http://www.softwaresupplygroup.com/microsoft-windows-7-...
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total: $546

Optional GPU: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclocked-Mini-HDMI-Graph...
The A8-3870K should be fine for WoW at 1600x900 but if you want you can add that GPU if you don't think the APU is enough, but... should be.
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a b Ý World of Warcraft
August 19, 2012 4:47:58 PM

The recommended requirements for wow are minimal. A dual core cpu, 4gb of ram, and a 6670 class video card.
http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/minimum-system-...

A G530 cpu will be $50, 4gb of DDR3 ram is about $25, and a 6670 is about $50.

The only case vendor with decent included power supplies is Antec.
The Antec NSK 4482 is $90 +10 shipping:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Any socket 1155 motherboard will do.
Here is one for $45:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

We are at $275 so far.
You will need an os, which is about $100. If you have a need to upgrade two or three pc's to windows 7, there is a family pack that gives you three licensed for $116 : http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Windows-Premium-Upgrade...
For a monitor/keyboard/mouse, check you local craig's list.

Regardless, take the time now to download and read, cover to cover, the case and motherboard manuals. Much will be learned.

Lastly, take the extra time to involve your son in the project. The experience will be priceless for both of you.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 19, 2012 4:52:16 PM

same build, but with the AMD FX-4100 Quad Core CPU/AM3+ MB

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

$700 with shipping using 10% off w/ promo code for CPU "FX0812", ends 8/21
and $5 off w/ promo code on PSU "EMCNBJF33", ends 8/20

Still has $35 MIR's

both builds will play WOW and more.

I wouldn't go too much less on the GPU or CPU, as you will be looking to upgrade when newer games come out. both systems will play most games at 1600x900 at very high/high settings. if you think your family will every play games like BF3 or Mechwarrior online, I would recommend the AMD Build for it's 4 cores.

this a good read on budget value systems.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-do-it-you...
"While the gaming potential of our entry-level dual-core chip is worthy of respect, it’s important to remember that its 2.4 GHz clock rate is all you'll ever get from it. Instead, we think that today’s build deserves, at the very least, a step up to Intel's Pentium G850. The extra $38 is a wise investment for anyone looking to duplicate out efforts"
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August 20, 2012 4:01:39 AM

Thanks for ll the responses.
I am currently thinking:

Case: Antec one $50
PSU: Coolmax V-500 Series 500W 120mm ATX Power Supply Walmart $24
CPU: G630 $63
Memory: currently own 8GB DDR3
GPU: Radeon 6670 $75
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3500641AS-RK 500GB 7200 RPM $70
MOBO: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $45
Optical Drive: Pull basic DVD from old Dell system
Keyboard: RAZER Black Wired BlackWidow Mechanical Gaming Keyboard $75

I'm at about $405 without OS and monitor.

I like the family Microsoft 7 mentioned above for $116
annal
No idea on monitors, but would consider hooking it up to an old 720P TV.
Any additional requirements for this?
Any recommendations on monitors?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 20, 2012 7:07:56 AM


Quote:
PSU: Coolmax V-500 Series 500W 120mm ATX Power Supply Walmart $24


I strongly caution you on getting no-name brand PSU's. you need to get a 80+ rated PSU. 350-500W will be fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I recommend not build to minimum specs on the GPU, yes WOW will play fine on a HD6670, but not much else will. if they release a more graphics intensive version of WOW then you'll be looking for a new GPU. also if you decide to play a different games you'll be wishing you bought a better GPU. the HD 7770 is a good buy for its price point and performance.

good monitor reasonable price
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 21, 2012 2:16:32 AM

I need to apologize, Jerred, I was unable to view the list you linked to last night.
Now looking it over, I can see a very thought out design that really fits my budget.
So far I have not found anything better for the price on any of the components.
Thank you very much.
I believe I am going to go with the Intel based system.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 21, 2012 4:59:15 AM

usualsuspects said:
Another question.
Would it be worth upgrading to 1600 DDR3 Ram such as:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's only $6 more.



the Ram you linked was not DDR3.

the DDR3 1600mhz Ram would only benefit the build with the AMD FX-4100 CPU/MB option. The intel Pentiums are limited to 1333Mhz Ram.

if you go that route then get this ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
this ram will work in both builds, the Intel based MB will just clock it at 1333.

check out Tom's $500 budget build on their PC Builder's marathon. it very similar to my build, the GPU is slightly stronger though.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-overclock...
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a b 4 Gaming
a b Ý World of Warcraft
August 21, 2012 2:18:07 PM

usualsuspects said:
Would it be worth getting a 6GB/s HDD, such as:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


usualsuspects said:
Another question.
Would it be worth upgrading to 1600 DDR3 Ram such as:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It's only $6 more.


6gb/s refers only to the buffer to sata connection, a very minor part of the performance equation since not much will ever reside in the buffer.
Of more import is the rpm of the drive. The green drives spin down to conserve energy, and have a delay when brought back into use. Since you are on a strict budget, I have no problem with any SATA drive you pick. If you were not on a strict budget, I would recommend a 120gb Intel 330 ssd. That will make a difference in everyday use, but not so much in gaming.

You indicate that you have 8gb of DDR3 ram. That will likely work if it is 1.5v ram, maximum of 1.65v. 1.8v ram will damage the cpu. Exactly what do you have? To be certain, go
to the ram vendor's web site configurator, and enter your new motherboard. If compatible, your ram kit should show up on the supported list.

Intel cpu's have a very good ram controller. It make virtually no difference what speed ram you use.
Read this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-...

The ram you linked is DDR2 ram, and only 2gb. You need DDR3 ram, and at least 4gb, 8gb if you have a 64 bit os.
Here is one 8gb kit that would work.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 21, 2012 6:56:24 PM

Thanks for the explanations, I've already learned tons of new stuff.
Not hard as I am obviously new to this.
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