Help a fellow (newbie) PC enthusiast

[mfms94]

Hello,
I am looking to build a gaming rig, but I somehow find myself tied up to technical stuff I don't even get (Specially on the Processor and Graphics part) I want to play all kinds of FPS (mostly Valve's) and some Basic RPG's. My total budget (shipping included) is 600 bucks. Thanks beforehand.

 

[13thmonkey]

this is not a bad place to start.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-pc-do-it-yourself-geforce-gtx-560,review-32459.html
the extra 100 could get you an i5, the 560ti could be replaced by a 660ti. see how prices have changed from this.

 

[jay_nar2012]

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-2120-Dual-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B004KZDV8E/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329191&sr=1-1&keywords=i3
http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GV-R667D3-1GI-Radeon-CrossFire-Graphics/dp/B005MED9X4/ref=pd_cp_e_0
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-1155-Motherboard-GA-Z77-DS3H/dp/B007R21JWC/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329083&sr=1-7&keywords=gigabyte+lga1155
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http://www.amazon.com/PNY-MD4096KD3-1333-Channel-PC3-10666-Desktop/dp/B0026ZPTR6/ref=sr_1_24?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329286&sr=1-24&keywords=4+gb+ram+ddr3
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-430-Watt-Certified-Compatible-Platforms/dp/B004W2T2TM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329225&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+430
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002MT21MW/ref=sr_1_15_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329404&sr=1-15&keywords=windows+7+home+premium&condition=new
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Computer-All-Black-RC-430-KWN1/dp/B003O8J11E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345329484&sr=8-1&keywords=computer+cases

 

[mfms94]

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-2120-Dual-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B004KZDV8E/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329191&sr=1-1&keywords=i3
http://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GV-R667D3-1GI-Radeon-CrossFire-Graphics/dp/B005MED9X4/ref=pd_cp_e_0
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-1155-Motherboard-GA-Z77-DS3H/dp/B007R21JWC/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329083&sr=1-7&keywords=gigabyte+lga1155
h
http://www.amazon.com/PNY-MD4096KD3-1333-Channel-PC3-10666-Desktop/dp/B0026ZPTR6/ref=sr_1_24?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329286&sr=1-24&keywords=4+gb+ram+ddr3
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-430-Watt-Certified-Compatible-Platforms/dp/B004W2T2TM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329225&sr=1-1&keywords=corsair+430
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B002MT21MW/ref=sr_1_15_olp?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345329404&sr=1-15&keywords=windows+7+home+premium&condition=new
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Computer-All-Black-RC-430-KWN1/dp/B003O8J11E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1345329484&sr=8-1&keywords=computer+cases

Would the i3 be enough to work its way with all the settings on HIGH?

 

[mfms94]

this is not a bad place to start.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-pc-do-it-yourself-geforce-gtx-560,review-32459.html
the extra 100 could get you an i5, the 560ti could be replaced by a 660ti. see how prices have changed from this.

This is where I get confused the most: what model of the i5 would best suit my needs??

 

[jay_nar2012]

Depends on what games, you can upgrade the GPU and CPU to these-

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2500-Quad-Core-Processor-Cache/dp/B004EBUXI0/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1345328946&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=i5+2500

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Mini-HDMI-Graphics-01G-P3-1556-KR/dp/B004S5CCP4/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1345330304&sr=1-1&keywords=nvidia+gpu

It should without AA on (removes jagged lines).

 

[mfms94]

Are you overclocking?

Not really... I just want a basic rig to play all day long. (I miss my PC gaming days)

 

[jay_nar2012]

Are you overclocking?

 

[jay_nar2012]

The i5 2500 would be fine.

 

[bwrlane]

A quad core i5 is much better than an i3 for gaming.

It won't make any difference to your ability to turn up the graphics to high. That is a question of your GPU power, not CPU.

Quad cores are increasingly necessary for multiplayer and RPG games, although an i3 is probably ok for most FPS.

I would say an i5 2500 or 3570 + 660Ti

 

[dudewitbow]

A quad core i5 is much better than an i3 for gaming.

It won't make any difference to your ability to turn up the graphics to high. That is a question of your GPU power, not CPU.

Quad cores are increasingly necessary for multiplayer and RPG games, although an i3 is probably ok for most FPS.

I would say an i5 2500 or 3570 + 660Ti

My total budget (shipping included) is 600 bucks.

yeah, try to fit that budget right in


May I ask for Budget OP? and location of purchase(as some states get taxed on newegg)

 

[mfms94]

My total budget (shipping included) is 600 bucks.

yeah, try to fit that budget right in


May I ask for Budget OP? and location of purchase(as some states get taxed on newegg)

Budget is exactly 625 dollars, and I am located in El Paso, Texas (US)

 

[dudewitbow]

Budget is exactly 625 dollars, and I am located in El Paso, Texas (US)

do you need a operating system/monitor/keyboard/mouse?

 

[mfms94]

do you need a operating system/monitor/keyboard/mouse?

I forgot that, I do need an OS and a monitor.

 

[dudewitbow]

totally made the build alot harder to make haha.

 

[mfms94]

If it is truly necessary I can expand my budget to (maybe) 700 dollars... Might be hard, but I think I might be able to do it.

 

[dudewitbow]

What I have so far is:

Hanspree 23" backlit w/ speakers LCD monitor 140$
Samsung Spinpoint 1tb HDD 70$
MSI 7770 GHZ 125+7$ shipping
G.skill 2x4 gb value series ram 40$
Asrock h77m mobo 70$ -10$ promo code EMCYTZT2078
Win7 Home Premium 64bit 100-20$ promo code EMCYTZT2082
Hive 650w +Challenger case 105$
i3-2120 + 22x samsung drive(couldnt fit i5 with monitor on budget) 131$

total with the promos as of the moment is 757.67

If I were to cut the cost even more, it would be barebonning the psu and cse limiting your options. buying one stick of 4gb ram is also an option to cut price as well. lowering the 7770 to something weaker is an option(not the best as the gpu is the heart of the gaming build). cutting the monitor price down is also an option, but doing so automatically cuts a resolution you can go to. (as this is probably one of the more cheap 1920x1080 resolution monitors with speakers built in.)




an example of barebone cutting would be:

corsair builder 430w 45$-5$ promo
Rosewill FBM-01 dual fan micro atx case 35$
Pareema 1x4gb ram 20$

 

[mfms94]

What I have so far is:

Hanspree 23" backlit w/ speakers LCD monitor 140$
Samsung Spinpoint 1tb HDD 70$
MSI 7770 GHZ 125+7$ shipping
G.skill 2x4 gb value series ram 40$
Asrock h77m mobo 70$ -10$ promo code EMCYTZT2078
Win7 Home Premium 64bit 100-20$ promo code EMCYTZT2082
Hive 650w +Challenger case 105$
i3-2120 + 22x samsung drive(couldnt fit i5 with monitor on budget) 131$

total with the promos as of the moment is 757.67

If I were to cut the cost even more, it would be barebonning the psu and cse limiting your options. buying one stick of 4gb ram is also an option to cut price as well. lowering the 7770 to something weaker is an option(not the best as the gpu is the heart of the gaming build). cutting the monitor price down is also an option, but doing so automatically cuts a resolution you can go to. (as this is probably one of the more cheap 1920x1080 resolution monitors with speakers built in.)




an example of barebone cutting would be:

corsair builder 430w 45$-5$ promo
Rosewill FBM-01 dual fan micro atx case 35$
Pareema 1x4gb ram 20$

Well I'll be damned... I thank you so much. Thanks for the tips as well.

 

[amuffin]

Why not a Pentium g860? None of his needs will use the hyperthreading that the I3 has.

 

[dudewitbow]

true to some extent i guess, the pentium g860 is 90$ so its less than the i3-2120's 125$

so its 125-90 = 35$ for .3 ghz speed as well as 2 hyper threads, 24$ if you take account that its in combo with a drive for -11$ off(because the g860 doesnt have a similar combo) so the question is is 24$ worth the extra 2 threads and .3 ghz per core essentially.


I just went to see what happens on threads in global offensive(valve game) hers my results

so possibly valve games can use hyperthreads to some extent(the blue bars on the side represent the hyperthreads

 

[mfms94]

true to some extent i guess, the pentium g860 is 90$ so its less than the i3-2120's 125$

so its 125-90 = 35$ for .3 ghz speed as well as 2 hyper threads, 24$ if you take account that its in combo with a drive for -11$ off(because the g860 doesnt have a similar combo) so the question is is 24$ worth the extra 2 threads and .3 ghz per core essentially.


I just went to see what happens on threads in global offensive(valve game) hers my results

http://i.imgur.com/JoUmI.png

so possibly valve games can use hyperthreads to some extent(the blue bars on the side represent the hyperthreads

You, have definitively sold an i3 to me... thanks

 

[Mousemonkey]

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey

 

[mfms94]

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