Need Help

[SmokenChicken]

http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-k53eds51-p-4012.html?wconfigure=yes

I wanted to know how well this laptop would wrok for gaming? Everything is how it is on the website. Can i play Mw3 on medium graphics or is this a better computer here

http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/AMD_A-Series_APU

that computer ^^ with a raidmax Orion gaming case. Which computer would be better for my CoD MW3 and Black ops 2 when it comes out gaming.

 

[drums101]

does the links have all of the included options that you chose? if so then the laptop would actually be faster at gaming bc it uses intel 3000 graphics and the desktop only has an AMD A4-3400 APU which is slower than intel 3000 (someone correct me if I am wrong).....I would def not go with a desktop with onboard graphics for gaming...someone on here did a review of the intel 3000 in mw3 his was OC'ed but it will give you an idea

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/275461-29-review-overclocked-intel-3000-graphics-performance

 

[SmokenChicken]

What about the AMD A6-3500 APU (3x 2.10GHz/3MB L2 Cache)

 

[drums101]

everywhere I read it seems that the consensus is that the A6-3500 APU has a better iGPU so it will game better than the i3

 

[SmokenChicken]

So i should just use the A-6 3500 and get the desktop?

 

[drums101]

thats still not made for gaming....to get good results in games you need a dedicated graphics card. what games are you going to be playing? and at what res....no matter what it would be wise to get a dedicated card even really low end dedicated cards will run laps around integrated

 

[SmokenChicken]

I want to play BF3 and MW3/BO2

 

[drums101]

yea there is pretty much no way you would be able to play bf3 with an integrated graphics option you def need to have a dedicated graphics card....can you tell me what your budget is? and are you willing/able to build it yourself or do you not know how?

 

[SmokenChicken]

well take a look at this

1 x AMD A6-3650 APU w/ AMD Radeon 65XX HD GFX Quad Core Processor Socket FM1 2.6GHZ 4MB 100W Retail Box
1 x Please Use The Heatsink Included With My CPU -NOT Available With OEM Processors
1 x Gigabyte A75-D3H ATX AMD FM1 A75 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI DDR3 HDMI DVI SATA3 USB 3.0 Motherboard
1 x Please Use The Onboard Video Card Integrated On My Motherboard
1 x Kingston ValueRAM KVR1333D3N9K2/4G PC3-10666 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1333 CL9 240PIN DIMM Memory Kit
1 x Compucase 6C28B ATX Case Black 4X5.25 2X3.5 4X.3.5INT W/ Front USB & Audio No PSU *IR-$10.00*
1 x Seasonic SS-350ET 350W ATX12V 20/24PIN ATX Power Supply Active PFC 80PLUS 120MM Fan OEM
Power Cord is not included
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM
Please note that Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit only supports up to 16GB of RAM.
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM 3.5IN SATA Internal Hard Drive OEM
1 x ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black
1 x Please Use The Onboard Sound Card Integrated On My Motherboard
1 x Please Use The Onboard Network Ethernet Card Integrated On My Motherboard

What about something like this? it would be nice to have high graphics but low-medium are just fine

 

[drums101]

1 x Please Use The Onboard Video Card Integrated On My Motherboard

You are still using the iGPU on the processor...that is the most important thing when it comes to gaming...you NEED a dedicated graphics card....with that iGPU you would get like 15fps at low res and all super low settings...iGPU's just do not cut it...just add a dedicated GPU into that system and you would be good to go (i would replace the cpu with an intel one though those amd chips are not very good for anything except low power htpc's)

 

[splatman213]

Like drums101 said, no way you can play bf3 with an integrated video card. id say maybe a nvidia 500 ti or radeon hd 5770 (minimum) or maybe a 7770, my friend plays on a radeon hd 4670 on minumum with 20 to 30 fps ( dont know how he can stand it), so no way you can play bf3 on integrated. hope this helps

 

[SmokenChicken]

Well i only got around $600 to spend CANADIAN. So what would you suggest?

 

[drums101]

you never answered my question above....are you willing/able to build the system yourself? it will save you some cash if you can do it yourself rather than buy a prebuilt one...also does this pc need to include monitor and keyboard/mouse?

 

[SmokenChicken]

Yeah all i need is to know what to put in it. i don't need the mouse/keyboard,monitor or speakers. I need windows 7 tho

 

[SmokenChicken]

1 x AMD A8-3850 APU W/ AMD Radeon 65XX HD GFX Quad Core Processor Socket FM1 2.9GHZ 4MB 100W Retail Box
1 x Please Use The Heatsink Included With My CPU -NOT Available With OEM Processors
1 x ASRock A75M-HVS mATX FM1 AMD A75 FCH DDR3 1PCI-E16 1PCI-E1 1PCI SATA3 HDMI D-Sub USB3.0 Motherboard
1 x AMD Entertainment Edition 4GB 1X4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz 9-9-9-24 1.5V Memory Module
1 x Gigabyte Radeon HD 6570 670MHZ 1GB 1.6GHZ GDDR3 DVI HDMI VGA PCI-E DIRECTX11 Video Card
1 x Inwin BK623 mATX Tiny Tower Case Black 1X5.25 1X3.5 1X3.5INT Front USB Audio W/ 300W PSU
1 x Please Use The Power Supply Included with My Case - Not Available for Cases with No Included PSU
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM
Please note that Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit only supports up to 16GB of RAM.
1 x Colin McRae Dirt 3 PC Game Digital Download Coupon ** Gigabyte Promo Only **
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM 3.5IN SATA Internal Hard Drive OEM
1 x ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X SATA DVD Writer OEM Black
1 x nGear Flash Card Reader 3.5IN Internal USB Black CF/SM/SDHC/MMC/MS/XD 18IN Cable
1 x Please Use The Onboard Sound Card Integrated On My Motherboard
1 x Please Use The Onboard Network Ethernet Card Integrated On My Motherboard

What about that? its not a integrated graphics card. Would that work for the games?

 

[drums101]

so you know how to build a pc from the ground up? you just need to know what to put the guts into? its just any case that you find attractive they are all standard

 

[SmokenChicken]

so you know how to build a pc from the ground up? you just need to know what to put the guts into? its just any case that you find attractive they are all standard

Yeah, if not i know some people who do know how, but i also posted a computer on there, i changed some things. tell me what you think oK?

 

[drums101]

yea thats better than a iGPU but still not a good card to be gaming with....what resolution is your monitor? I will try to build you a system with parts from newegg and see how that goes.

 

[SmokenChicken]

I have no clue what it is :\ and i would really appreciate that

 

[drums101]

ahh ok yea man they are all standard you just need to find a case that looks attractive to you. here are a bunch of links to parts...the total comes out to $585 without the case and before rebates. ($20 bucks in rebates)

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116406
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130639
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104221
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948
Windows: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

I didnt include a case bc you should pick out one that looks good to you but here is a suggestion that is cheap and I have used before
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147123

this would bring you in slightly over budget ($620) so if you have to stick to $600 exactly you could get this GPU instead

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353

 

[drums101]

edit: switch the RAM out with this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576003

linked to the wrong one

 

[SmokenChicken]

Okay thanks man really kind of you. Also this includes shipping?

 

[SmokenChicken]

Also is that canada or us?

 

[drums101]

unfortunately that is U.S. and it did include shipping....just realized there is a newegg canada...its newegg.ca all you have to do is find the same exact product that I linked to in newegg.ca....they should all be about the same price shipping may be different though

 

[SmokenChicken]

Okay, also i heard that that CPU is kind of crappy?