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I want to buy one of these lenses as a do it all (or most) travelling lens
while cycling. Some of the good points I see so far, it is not too heavy
(1lb) not too big, "L" quality, fast focussing, replaces a "normal" (50mm
lens in 35mm speak) lens and a wide angle (28mm lens). I have a 24-70 f2,8
L but it is too big and too heavy to fit in my bag.

Any contrary opinions or reasons I should not get one?

Jean

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The 17-40 is an excellent lens by any metric, and is generally rated as
a touch better (optically) than the venerable 16-35 F/2.8 (although not
quite as versitile).

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MitchAlsup@aol.com wrote:
> The 17-40 is an excellent lens by any metric, and is generally rated as
> a touch better (optically) than the venerable 16-35 F/2.8 (although not
> quite as versitile).


I think you mean the old 17-35/2.8. The new 16-35/2.8 is very good.

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On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:50:40 -0400, "jean" <try-to@find.it> wrote:

>I want to buy one of these lenses as a do it all (or most) travelling lens
>while cycling. Some of the good points I see so far, it is not too heavy
>(1lb) not too big, "L" quality, fast focussing, replaces a "normal" (50mm
>lens in 35mm speak) lens and a wide angle (28mm lens). I have a 24-70 f2,8
>L but it is too big and too heavy to fit in my bag.
>
>Any contrary opinions or reasons I should not get one?

Excellent lens it was one of the first four lenses I got for my 20D.
It is my second most used lens next to the 24-70L.


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jean wrote:
> I want to buy one of these lenses as a do it all (or most) travelling lens
> while cycling. Some of the good points I see so far, it is not too heavy
> (1lb) not too big, "L" quality, fast focussing, replaces a "normal" (50mm
> lens in 35mm speak) lens and a wide angle (28mm lens). I have a 24-70 f2,8
> L but it is too big and too heavy to fit in my bag.

You'll be hard pushed to find anyone with a genuinely bad opinion about
the 17-40L. I have one and I love it. It's heavier than some, but if
you're happy with the weight/size vs quality tradeoff you could hardly
do better.

The only real issue for you to consider is whether it offers you enough
reach. When it's been the only lens I have with me I've occasionally
been frustrated with only 40mm. It needs a longer companion unless you
know exactly what you're shooting.

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jean wrote:

> I want to buy one of these lenses as a do it all (or most) travelling lens
> while cycling. Some of the good points I see so far, it is not too heavy
> (1lb) not too big, "L" quality, fast focussing, replaces a "normal" (50mm
> lens in 35mm speak) lens and a wide angle (28mm lens). I have a 24-70 f2,8
> L but it is too big and too heavy to fit in my bag.
>
> Any contrary opinions or reasons I should not get one?

It's a great lens..

But... It wouldn't be a good do-all for me. Even with the 1.6 crop
40mm isn't long enough. I like to have around 100mm at my
disposal.

Something to consider.

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I love it on my 1D and it's OK (not as wide) on my Rebel, too.

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<MitchAlsup@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The 17-40 is an excellent lens by any metric, and is generally rated as
> a touch better (optically) than the venerable 16-35 F/2.8 (although not
> quite as versitile).
>
No, not quite. The new 16 - 35 f2.8 is very highly rated - also, I bought
one, it's very very crisp.

The 17 - 40 is the one I would have gone for if I didn't feel the need for
the extra stop.

Go here
http://www.the-digital-picture.com [...] views.aspx

to read all about Canon lenses.

John

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Since 2 people have mentioned the 16-35, I feel compelled to point out
the PhotoDo data base showing measurements of the 3 lenses in question.
The 17-40 is rated a touch higher than either the 16-35 or the 17-35.

All three lenses can be considered superb for most purposes. And the
16-35 is definately better than the 17-35. However, and I don't
remember all the reasons, but the 17-40 tends to outrank the 16-35 in
many reasonable comparisons; and the 16-35 outranks the 17-40 in a few
reasonable comparisons. Based only on the number of comparisons that
the 17-40 wins, it would take the nod in my book; however, that said, I
would get a 16-35 when/if I needed a lens of this focal range. They are
that close optically.

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jean wrote:
> I want to buy one of these lenses as a do it all (or most) travelling
> lens while cycling. Some of the good points I see so far, it is not
> too heavy (1lb) not too big, "L" quality, fast focussing, replaces a
> "normal" (50mm lens in 35mm speak) lens and a wide angle (28mm lens).
> I have a 24-70 f2,8 L but it is too big and too heavy to fit in my
> bag.
>
> Any contrary opinions or reasons I should not get one?

Simpler, cheaper fix:
Get a ****slightly**** larger bag!
It isn't THAT much bigger...
Done!
:)

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"Jim Townsend" <not@real.address> a écrit dans le message de
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> jean wrote:
>
> > I want to buy one of these lenses as a do it all (or most) travelling
lens
> > while cycling. Some of the good points I see so far, it is not too
heavy
> > (1lb) not too big, "L" quality, fast focussing, replaces a "normal"
(50mm
> > lens in 35mm speak) lens and a wide angle (28mm lens). I have a 24-70
f2,8
> > L but it is too big and too heavy to fit in my bag.
> >
> > Any contrary opinions or reasons I should not get one?
>
> It's a great lens..
>
> But... It wouldn't be a good do-all for me. Even with the 1.6 crop
> 40mm isn't long enough. I like to have around 100mm at my
> disposal.
>
> Something to consider.

Already considered, I will be taking a 75-300mm IS.

Jean

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"Derek Fountain" <nomail@hursley.ibm.com> a écrit dans le message de
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> jean wrote:
> > I want to buy one of these lenses as a do it all (or most) travelling
lens
> > while cycling. Some of the good points I see so far, it is not too
heavy
> > (1lb) not too big, "L" quality, fast focussing, replaces a "normal"
(50mm
> > lens in 35mm speak) lens and a wide angle (28mm lens). I have a 24-70
f2,8
> > L but it is too big and too heavy to fit in my bag.
>
> You'll be hard pushed to find anyone with a genuinely bad opinion about
> the 17-40L. I have one and I love it. It's heavier than some, but if
> you're happy with the weight/size vs quality tradeoff you could hardly
> do better.
>
> The only real issue for you to consider is whether it offers you enough
> reach. When it's been the only lens I have with me I've occasionally
> been frustrated with only 40mm. It needs a longer companion unless you
> know exactly what you're shooting.

Weight and size being important issues, I will take along my Canon 75-300mm
f4,5-5,6 IS for the times I need a longer reach. On a previous trip, I took
my daughter's Canon 24-85 and the 75-300 and that worked out well. She is
studying in Ottawa so I don't have access to her lens, plus it's a nice
enough of an excuse to get another lens ;-)

Jean

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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> a écrit dans le message
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> jean wrote:
> > I want to buy one of these lenses as a do it all (or most) travelling
> > lens while cycling. Some of the good points I see so far, it is not
> > too heavy (1lb) not too big, "L" quality, fast focussing, replaces a
> > "normal" (50mm lens in 35mm speak) lens and a wide angle (28mm lens).
> > I have a 24-70 f2,8 L but it is too big and too heavy to fit in my
> > bag.
> >
> > Any contrary opinions or reasons I should not get one?
>
> Simpler, cheaper fix:
> Get a ****slightly**** larger bag!
> It isn't THAT much bigger...
> Done!
> :)
>

LOL, doesn't fix my lens lust one bit

Jean

Although I could take out my tools, the spare tube, the patch kit and hope
nothing breaks and I never get a flat ;-)

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I don't know if you've got a 1.6x crop canon (10/20/300D), but I'm
starting to toss around the idea of getting the new sigma 18-50 f/2.8
EX DC. $400 and I've heard nothing but good things about it...and the
f/2.8 would be really nice.

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I have a 10D, but I am not too crazy about trying another Sigma lens however
good the reviews are. I was burned once on a Sigma lens which had a problem
I discovered too late to send it back for a full refund within the two weeks
grace period, so now I would rather pay extra for something guaranteed to
work rather than spend time and effort trying to get what was supposed to
work right out of the box working right. Canon is not immune from any
problem, but so far they have proven me they stand behind their products.

YMMV

Jean

<grendel@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
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> I don't know if you've got a 1.6x crop canon (10/20/300D), but I'm
> starting to toss around the idea of getting the new sigma 18-50 f/2.8
> EX DC. $400 and I've heard nothing but good things about it...and the
> f/2.8 would be really nice.
>

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In article <9ODTe.30216$1g2.531@fe05.lga> l e o <someone@somewhere.net> writes:
$MitchAlsup@aol.com wrote:
$> The 17-40 is an excellent lens by any metric, and is generally rated as
$> a touch better (optically) than the venerable 16-35 F/2.8 (although not
$> quite as versitile).
$
$I think you mean the old 17-35/2.8. The new 16-35/2.8 is very good.

Michael Reichman's comparison of the 16-35 and 17-40 shows,
among other things, that the 17-40 is better at the wide end and
the 16-35 is better at the long end. But both are fine lenses.

The 17-40 is my most used lens on my 20D. It suffers from some
chromatic aberration, particularly at the wide end, but that's normal
for any lens and particularly normal for an ultrawide zoom. It's
sharp, focuses pretty quickly (not quite as quickly as some of my
other ring USM lenses, but still, quickly enough for pretty much
any use) and pretty quietly (again, not as quietly as some of my
other ring USM lenses, but the difference is really only audible
in a quiet room), and well built. It's also remarkably resistant
to flare; even with the sun in the frame, it often shows no
flare at all, despite having a dozen elements.

I would have liked the 16-35's faster aperture, though honestly
I don't need it and I've been accustomed to an f/3.5-5.6 zoom being
my walkabout lens (on a film body) so I'm not losing any speed
here. And I'd have liked it to go longer, so I wouldn't always
have to carry at least two lenses, but then it would be the 17-85
and wouldn't be up to quite the same standards optically. I can
live with both of these limitations.
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Bought it today, happy as a clam ;-) Slightly smaller than my 24-70 f2,8
(1" shorter and the lens shade is also smaller) but a LOT lighter. This
lens will be a lot less intimidating when taking pictures of people, with
the 24-70, they always think I'm taking pictures of their nostrils since
it's so big.

Jean


"Stephen M. Dunn" <stephen@stevedunn.ca> a écrit dans le message de
news:IMJyD0.5zv@stevedunn.ca...
> In article <9ODTe.30216$1g2.531@fe05.lga> l e o <someone@somewhere.net>
writes:
> $MitchAlsup@aol.com wrote:
> $> The 17-40 is an excellent lens by any metric, and is generally rated as
> $> a touch better (optically) than the venerable 16-35 F/2.8 (although not
> $> quite as versitile).
> $
> $I think you mean the old 17-35/2.8. The new 16-35/2.8 is very good.
>
> Michael Reichman's comparison of the 16-35 and 17-40 shows,
> among other things, that the 17-40 is better at the wide end and
> the 16-35 is better at the long end. But both are fine lenses.
>
> The 17-40 is my most used lens on my 20D. It suffers from some
> chromatic aberration, particularly at the wide end, but that's normal
> for any lens and particularly normal for an ultrawide zoom. It's
> sharp, focuses pretty quickly (not quite as quickly as some of my
> other ring USM lenses, but still, quickly enough for pretty much
> any use) and pretty quietly (again, not as quietly as some of my
> other ring USM lenses, but the difference is really only audible
> in a quiet room), and well built. It's also remarkably resistant
> to flare; even with the sun in the frame, it often shows no
> flare at all, despite having a dozen elements.
>
> I would have liked the 16-35's faster aperture, though honestly
> I don't need it and I've been accustomed to an f/3.5-5.6 zoom being
> my walkabout lens (on a film body) so I'm not losing any speed
> here. And I'd have liked it to go longer, so I wouldn't always
> have to carry at least two lenses, but then it would be the 17-85
> and wouldn't be up to quite the same standards optically. I can
> live with both of these limitations.
> --
> Stephen M. Dunn <stephen@stevedunn.ca>
> >>>----------------> http://www.stevedunn.ca/ <----------------<<<
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Say hi to my cat -- http://www.stevedunn.ca/photos/toby/

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jean wrote:
> Bought it today, happy as a clam ;-) Slightly smaller than my 24-70
> f2,8 (1" shorter and the lens shade is also smaller) but a LOT
> lighter. This lens will be a lot less intimidating when taking
> pictures of people, with the 24-70, they always think I'm taking
> pictures of their nostrils since it's so big.
>
> Jean

I'd have to agree that the 24-70 really is HUGE considering that it only
goes to 70mm.
It looks more like a tele than a normal to many people.

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