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August 20, 2012 2:35:24 AM

Hey there, I'm planning to upgrade my computer and I'd like to see peoples opinions on the parts i wish to get, I'm basically trying to find the cheapest things i can get to make a low budget gaming PC, my computer right now is pretty basic, its got the following components.

Intel® Desktop Board DG35EC
Intel Pentium Dual Core CPU 1.80GHz
3.00 GB Ram
Intel G35 Express Chip set Family
Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit

My budget is £305 and i managed to find the following parts that add up to £304.

AMD FX 4100/ 3.6GHz Quad Core Processor 12MB Black edition
Asrock N68-VS3 FX AMD Socket AM3 Motherboard
8GB DDR3 1333MHz 2x4
Sapphire ATI HD6670 1GB GDDR5 Low profile (Due to my Slim case)
EZCool 400w Super Silent TFX PSU
Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit

Since im new to all this stuff I'd like to know if all of these are compatible with each other and I'd just like to know what you guys think of this rig also i want to ask if its hard to replace all the parts in my old computer because in my life I've only ever removed a Ram stick and a graphics card.

Thanks for reading !

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August 20, 2012 10:32:44 AM

DO NOT use that psu. Get xfx 80+ bronze
Get the radeon hd7750.Best card for a slim budget build
August 20, 2012 10:55:49 AM

I suggest getting the AMD Phenom II x4 965 processor in place of the FX-4100. The FX-4100 is in the un-enviable position of being optimized for multi-threaded performance, but only having four cores so it cant excel in that aspect. And because of said optimizations has relatively weak single threaded performance. Made even worse by the fact that the older Phenom is at the same price point and delivers better performance across the board.
AMD Phenom II x4 965 Black edition. $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If possible bump that RAM up to 1600Mhz, it should only be the difference of a few dollars.

That PSU will no doubt have horrible efficiency, general construction and Voltage/Amperage regulation. PSU's from little known brands like EZcool are essentially generic, which any builder will vehemently reject on general principle. The PSU is not the place to skimp in a build, its the one component withe the potential to fry all the others. You want a quality unit from a company like Corsair, XFX, Seasonic or Silverstone. Failing that, a mid-range brand like OCZ, Coolermaster and some Antec's at least wont blow up in your face.
Corsair Builder series 500W. $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 20, 2012 11:29:24 AM

Hello thanks for the reply but that PSU you linked me wont fit me in my case :(  and this is going to be a really nooby question but since i live in the Uk if i order off newegg will the components work correctly (im just thinking of the whole PAL/NTSC thing) Thanks again guys.
August 20, 2012 11:33:50 AM

Unless you have a HTPC slim case or some non ATX case it should fit.

As far as I know Newegg doesn't ship outside the US/Canada. Just find the parts on an equivalent UK store (Amazon is a big one).
August 20, 2012 1:08:51 PM

allanitomwesh said:
He does have a slimline case manofchalk. You can tell from the mobo he's buying.


That completely flew over my head, not all that familiar with non-mainstream AMD motherboards. The 9XX chipsets is all I really know about.
And OP even said he has a slim case... I am an idiot.

Never heard of FSP, but I dont know much about slim-line PSU's. Its specs seen decent enough, 80+ standard rated, the wattage of the 12v rails (two of them) is above its advertised wattage (at 360W), has all the typical features like Active PFC and the various safeties built in.

August 20, 2012 1:24:51 PM

FSP are direct competitors to seasonic. They make psu's for antec.
August 20, 2012 6:02:27 PM

Hey again, the Watt requirement for the HD6670 is 400 watts, so will that 300 Watt PSU be ok ? and the PSU you linked me doesn't look like it'll fit into my case. but with all the parts i have chosen will they all be compatible with each other ?
Thanks
August 20, 2012 6:04:19 PM

Where did you find the requirement? If AMD.com, then that is only with a crappy PSU. If the PSU is of good quality, a 300Wer can power it.
August 20, 2012 7:30:58 PM

Desto said:
Hey again, the Watt requirement for the HD6670 is 400 watts, so will that 300 Watt PSU be ok ? and the PSU you linked me doesn't look like it'll fit into my case. but with all the parts i have chosen will they all be compatible with each other ?
Thanks

I don't see why it wouldn't fit, what case are you using? The psu in it at the moment what are it's specifics? A 6670 will run fine with the one I've linked, but just how slim is your case? Still think you should get a HD 7750 and avoid the psu in your original post. http://www.ksn-online.co.uk/vtx3d-radeon-7750-1gb-gddr5...
August 20, 2012 9:18:47 PM

allanitomwesh said:
I don't see why it wouldn't fit, what case are you using? The psu in it at the moment what are it's specifics? A 6670 will run fine with the one I've linked, but just how slim is your case? Still think you should get a HD 7750 and avoid the psu in your original post. http://www.ksn-online.co.uk/vtx3d-radeon-7750-1gb-gddr5...


I just clicked the link again and saw that it will fit my comp (i must of somehow saw something else the other time) but with all your help I've managed to come up with another build so let me know what you think of it

AMD Phenom II X4 965 - 3.4 Ghz AM3 Black Edition
ATI Radeon 7750 1GB Low Profile
Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard Socket AM3+ DDR3
Corsair 8GB Ram 1600MHz DDR3
FSP 300W TFX PSU 80+ Peak 350W
Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit

I would also like to know if all these parts are compatible with each other and also if it would play games like BF3/Crysis2 and if so on what settings and average FPS i would get.
Thanks !
August 21, 2012 3:07:57 AM

You'll want 10600 1333mhz ddr3 ram http://www.ksn-online.co.uk/gskill-8gb-2x4gb-dual-chann...
You'll get ultra settings @1600×900,1440×1080 resolution in almost all games,some @1680×1050 like dirt 3 and even the less demanding ones @1920×1080 with AA off. If you have a HD monitor try 1080i (1440×1080) as opposed to 1080p(1920×1080). Make sure to put the Direct X 11 patch on crysis 2 or any game for that matter.
August 21, 2012 3:46:43 AM

Just found out i cant get the ATI Radeon 7750 low profile anywhere (in the UK that is) so is there any other low profile card you can recommend to me, and i was also wondering would i benefit if i changed the Processor and motherboard to:

INTEL PENTIUM G630 x2 (2x 2.7Ghz/3MB L3 Cache)
H61M-HVS motherboard

so then the build so far would be that processor and motherboard plus the G.Skill 8BG memory sticks you linked me.
Thanks
August 21, 2012 1:31:37 PM

I'm really confused on what to get now, my budgets being raised to £350 so if anyone can just recommend the following things in that price budget i'd be very thankful, Motherboard,TFX PSU, low profile graphics card, Processor and Ram.

August 21, 2012 3:42:54 PM

Thanks for the list dude i appreciate it but the graphics card you linked me isn't low profile (i need low profile for the slim case) and its a little over my budget i also forgot to mention i need Windows 7 in that budget but i found one for £40 so overall now the total money i have left to use is £310 but i found a build that looks ok, Tell me what you think

Intel iCore 3 3.3Ghz 2120 Sandybridge
ASUS P8H61-MX USB3 ATX
Corsair 8GB Ram 1600MHz DDR3 Vengance
Sapphire HD6670 1GB GDDR5 Low Profile
FSP 300W TFX PSU 80+ Peak 350W
Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit

This comes to a total of £337.29
and on the ram you linked me a 1333mhz one, i thought a 1600mhz one was better please correct me if im wrong.
If you think i can get better things for around the same price please tell me. Thanks again dude.
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