DirectX 10, should be 11

Hello,

I have a GTX 560. We all know that is a DX11 GPU, but when I check in properties it says that the current version of DX is 10. I want to ask, is it even possible to downgrade to DX10 on a GPU that is stock DX11? If so, how do I change it back to DX11? Or is there just something wrong with windows' experience index? GPU-Z shows that the card has full DirectX 11 support as well as SM5.0 (whatever that is) but I don't know which one to trust.

Thanks in advance.
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  1. DX11 GPU has backward compatibility of DX10, DX9, DX8, etc. You might need to install DX11 on your system.
  2. auntarie said:
    Hello,

    I have a GTX 560. We all know that is a DX11 GPU, but when I check in properties it says that the current version of DX is 10. I want to ask, is it even possible to downgrade to DX10 on a GPU that is stock DX11? If so, how do I change it back to DX11? Or is there just something wrong with windows' experience index? GPU-Z shows that the card has full DirectX 11 support as well as SM5.0 (whatever that is) but I don't know which one to trust.

    Thanks in advance.


    Dx11 fixed all the problems Dx10 had, and like the person above me said Dx11 cards are backwards compatible!
  3. iinlane said:
    DX11 GPU has backward compatibility of DX10, DX9, DX8, etc. You might need to install DX11 on your system.


    Like he said also DX11 is kinda a waste IMO. Its really intense on your GPU and barely boost your graphix. For real you need to take a screenshot to see the minor graphic improvement but you'll loose several FPS.

    With a 560 I wouldn't be using DX11 on anything. If you have to lower your graphic setting in order to enable DX11, its does not worth it.
  4. Ok just to check what is your OS ?

    Mactronix :)
  5. venur said:
    Like he said also DX11 is kinda a waste IMO. Its really intense on your GPU and barely boost your graphix. For real you need to take a screenshot to see the minor graphic improvement but you'll loose several FPS.

    With a 560 I wouldn't be using DX11 on anything. If you have to lower your graphic setting in order to enable DX11, its does not worth it.


    Check your facts man. DX11 is both faster and has noticeable improvement in image quality. I'm currently installing CIV5, which uses dx11 tesseleration to improve performance.
  6. iinlane said:
    Check your facts man. DX11 is both faster and has noticeable improvement in image quality. I'm currently installing CIV5, which uses dx11 tesseleration to improve performance.


    Well in Crysis 2 the difference between Dx9 and Dx11 is minimal and the performance in Dx9 is a lot better.

    I get 80+ fps in dx9 and in Dx11 I have a hard time keeping my fps at 60 most of the time, So Dx11 takes a big hit on performance !!
  7. mactronix said:
    Ok just to check what is your OS ?

    Mactronix :)


    Win7 Ultimate 64-bit. Forgot about that, sorry :D So how do I install DX11? My card can handle pretty much anything for now so I won't need to turn down any graphic settings. Maybe in BF3, but I don't play that.

    Also, when I install new games they all install their required version of DX. And I can't cancel it :/
  8. You don't need to install it on W7 which was why I asked, if you were on vista you would need to.

    How are you checking it ? Are you using DXDIAG in the search box ? If not do so. click on the start button type DXDIAG into the search box and click on the round blue icon with a yellow cross that appears. that will tell you what's what.

    Mactronix :) Edit for spelling
  9. iinlane said:
    Check your facts man. DX11 is both faster and has noticeable improvement in image quality. I'm currently installing CIV5, which uses dx11 tesseleration to improve performance.


    Don't misslead poeple with false fact.

    DX9 is a way faster then DX11 and the graphix improvement of DX11 require screenshot comparason to see the difference. Maybe it worth it on slow games. But you won't notice it while playing BF3 and it is a game that heavely use DX11 features.

    I enable it in games because I have the power. But I wouldn't upgrade my PC in order to be able to use it. The difference is so minor while gaming fast action games and many many game don't even make use of the DX11 feature since they require a lot of work for a minor improvement.

    Running with 4AA will yeld a bether graphix quality improvement over running DX11.

    If DX11 was so powerfull, Nvidia wouldn,t had paid ton of dollars to see company making patch that use it.
  10. mactronix said:
    You don't need to install it on W7 which was why I asked, if you were on vista you would need to.

    How are you checking it ? Are you using DXDIAG in the search box ? If not do so. click on the start button type DXDIAG into the search box and click on the round blue icon with a yellow cross that appears. that will tell you what's what.

    Mactronix :) Edit for spelling


    Why you dont need to install dx11 in win7? Win 7 need to install dx11. Without latest directx update it will remain dx10. I get directx 11 after install latest update.

    To OP, you need to dx11.
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=17431
    It may help. In some directx 11 game, there will be option to install directx 11. You can use it.

    From DirectX Diagnostic Tool, select Display tab and check DDI Version if it is 11. Type dxdiag in startmenu search box.
  11. mubin said:
    Why you dont need to install dx11 in win7? Win 7 need to install dx11. Without latest directx update it will remain dx10. I get directx 11 after install latest update.

    To OP, you need to dx11.
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=17431
    It may help. In some directx 11 game, there will be option to install directx 11. You can use it.

    From DirectX Diagnostic Tool, select Display tab and check DDI Version if it is 11. Type dxdiag in startmenu search box.



    You don't need to install it because W7 is natively DX11 its part of the OS.
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows7/products/features/directx-11

    Mactronix :)
  12. OK, so I checked in DXDIAG and it says I have DX11. I'm really sorry if this turns out to be one big mistake on my part.
  13. Yeah, exactly.
  14. But why the hell does it say DX10 in one place and DX11 in the other? Doesn't the experience index draw the information from DXDIAG?
  15. auntarie said:
    OK, so I checked in DXDIAG and it says I have DX11. I'm really sorry if this turns out to be one big mistake on my part.


    Don't worry about it these things happen. At least you are sorted now.

    Sometimes you can get false readings.

    Mactronix :)
  16. Thanks a lot everyone, I was kind of worried there for a moment. And again, sorry for the kind of bullcrap post :D
  17. I thought Skyrim was a DX9 only game ?........... like all the Call of Duty titles................
  18. the flashes, try the new driver.......... 12-6
  19. want to try the beta driver ? i also have random blue blotch every once in a while in the corner of my screen. never had problems like this that i can remember.

    http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Catalystbetadriver1.aspx
  20. We just had a person on the forums somewhere that was having trouble with 12.7 beta. He/she ended up returning to 12.4 :D
  21. Thats why i never try beta.
  22. venur said:
    Don't misslead poeple with false fact.

    DX9 is a way faster then DX11 and the graphix improvement of DX11 require screenshot comparason to see the difference. Maybe it worth it on slow games. But you won't notice it while playing BF3 and it is a game that heavely use DX11 features.

    I enable it in games because I have the power. But I wouldn't upgrade my PC in order to be able to use it. The difference is so minor while gaming fast action games and many many game don't even make use of the DX11 feature since they require a lot of work for a minor improvement.


    Obviously you don't have the slightest clue of what DX11 is. It is an API, an interface to hardware. Only Direct3D, a subset of DirectX, is used for graphics. I have used the API, so I know what I'm talking about.

    You can make make identical-looking games with DX9 and DX11 and the DX11 is way faster. The reason why many games are faster in DX9 mode is that the game developers maintain this low quality code path for low performance computers and only implement the high-end features on DX11 code path. It is true that the high-end features push the graphics to diminishing returns but it means just that - those features are slower, not DX11 API.
  23. mubin said:
    Thats why i never try beta.


    Sorry to hear your close mindedness :pfff:


    Currently running beta driver for my 670s, fixed a few crap issues that had plagued the cards.

    Thats why I love betas.
  24. mubin said:
    Thats why i never try beta.



    People who don't understand what they are doing probably shouldn't try beta drivers. beta means they are not certified to work properly so some bugs are to be expected. Unless you are ok with messing around with some settings its best to stick with certified drivers.
    Not that that guarantees smooth operation either of course. Just less chance of issues.

    Mactronix :)
  25. auntarie said:
    Thanks a lot everyone, I was kind of worried there for a moment. And again, sorry for the kind of bullcrap post :D


    Where were you looking? Performance information and tools that displays the Experience Index? If so, this is normal and everyone's Windows PC will show this.

  26. RussK1 said:
    Where were you looking? Performance information and tools that displays the Experience Index? If so, this is normal and everyone's Windows PC will show this.

    http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j357/russwood8814/Capture-30.png


    Exactly that. We got it sorted out now though. Thanks anyway.
    Speaking of drivers, has anyone tried out the new 301.42?
  27. I didn't have a problem with them but now I'm on the 304.48's.
  28. Oh gee, look at that. I though they were still only for the GTX 680.
  29. auntarie said:
    Oh gee, look at that. I though they were still only for the GTX 680.

  30. mactronix said:
    People who don't understand what they are doing probably shouldn't try beta drivers. beta means they are not certified to work properly so some bugs are to be expected. Unless you are ok with messing around with some settings its best to stick with certified drivers.
    Not that that guarantees smooth operation either of course. Just less chance of issues.

    Mactronix :)


    I know what is beta. I am taking about expected bug, especially for AMD driver. Last time i used non-beta 12.2 driver which very buggy. Got issue with Skyrim texture corruption. So there is no guarantee in beta driver for AMD. I just wait for stable release.
  31. akamrcrack said:
    Sorry to hear your close mindedness :pfff:


    Currently running beta driver for my 670s, fixed a few crap issues that had plagued the cards.

    Thats why I love betas.


    I talked about AMD beta driver.
  32. mubin said:
    I know what is beta. I am taking about expected bug, especially for AMD driver. Last time i used non-beta 12.2 driver which very buggy. Got issue with Skyrim texture corruption. So there is no guarantee in beta driver for AMD. I just wait for stable release.



    In my opinion the best driver for AMD is 11.8 You could upgrade to 12.4 or 12.6 for the improved morphological AA but personally I am happy with 11.8

    Mactronix :)
  33. thanks for spamming the thread with garbage unrelated to the original question............ and that would be related to all the unneeded nvidiot posts.
  34. swifty_morgan said:
    thanks for spamming the thread with garbage unrelated to the original question............ and that would be related to all the unneeded nvidiot posts.

    :heink:
  35. Quote:
    @MM, should just close the thread now, OP's problem was solved half a thread ago.

    It wasn't started as a question thread and so shouldn't really be viewed as one should it? :ange:
  36. Mousemonkey said:
    :heink:



    sorry mouse. getting threads mixed up. either gotta stop working or stop opining......... LOL
  37. swifty_morgan said:
    sorry mouse. getting threads mixed up. either gotta stop working or stop opining......... LOL

    NP. ;)

    Stop working and start drinking I say, it's what works for me! :lol:
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