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August 20, 2012 8:41:07 AM

Hi. Im new to forums in general. I get the gist of things (I think). I have been trying to decide what to buy lately. Im trying to get a gaming rig. Not something super powerful. Just casual gaming. BF3 on medium. 30-60fps. I was thinking of an A8 3870k with an HD6670. If i were to get this, should i get a DDR5 version with 2gb or just 1GB?

My other option was to get a phenom II X4 965 and pair it with a 560 or a 550ti. I dont really know which is stronger or if i should go with a similar AMD Radeon Card instead.

PS. Resolution can alter from 720p to 1080p. not really picky as long as its >720P.



Other thoughts where an intel i3 or something similar but i was wondering if it would perform as well on multithreaded apps compared to one of the amd quads.

Anythoughts?

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August 20, 2012 9:01:35 AM

It will depend on what motherboard you got or getting as most new CPU will require you to get a new motherboard.
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August 20, 2012 9:04:47 AM

I can get an AM3+, FM1, or LGA115. But what would be the best combo for gaming?
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August 20, 2012 9:12:27 AM

FinneousPJ said:
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($53.22 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($137.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $291.20
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-20 05:08 EDT-0400)

Or an i3.
This but switch to the evga 560 i found it's better :na: 
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August 20, 2012 9:19:03 AM

FinneousPJ said:
This

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($99.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($53.22 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 6850 1GB Video Card ($137.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $291.20
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-20 05:08 EDT-0400)

Or an i3.



Is the 6850 faster than the 560 and the 6670 crossfired A8?
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August 20, 2012 9:27:20 AM

Hm, from a personal opinion, for the CPU, either an I3-2100 or a 955/965 would do great (I'm suggesting a BE, but since they've been in quite scarce quantities and if you do stumble upon one, usually they are overpriced).

For the video card, anything along the lines of a 6870 or a 560 would suffice at 1920x1080.

On Amazon:
CPU:
Intel Core i3-2100 Dual-Core Processor 3.1 GHz 3 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80623I32100
$117.59
OR
AMD Phenom II X4 965 AM3 3.4Ghz 512KB 45NM 125W 4000MHZ
$109.99

Video Card:
MSI Radeon HD 6870 1 GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity R6870 Twin Frozr II
$153.29
OR
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Superclocked 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 2DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Graphics Card, 01G-P3-1463-KR
$169.99

Any combination would keep you below your $300 cap for the CPU/GPU combo.

I think a 2GB video card is more for multi-monitors (please correct if I'm wrong). I've been using 1GB on my 24" @ 1920x1080 mostly on max settings (except for Witcher 2 where my 6870 was brought to it's knees).

Hope this helps.
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August 20, 2012 9:34:17 AM

Im leaning towards the 6870 and Phenom now. Would I experience any bottlenecking at stock frequencies?
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August 20, 2012 9:34:33 AM

footlong96 said:
Im leaning towards the 6870 and Phenom now. Would I experience any bottlenecking at stock frequencies?
i don't think so you'll be fine ;) 
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August 20, 2012 9:35:25 AM

abegnale said:
Hm, from a personal opinion, for the CPU, either an I3-2100 or a 955/965 would do great (I'm suggesting a BE, but since they've been in quite scarce quantities and if you do stumble upon one, usually they are overpriced).

For the video card, anything along the lines of a 6870 or a 560 would suffice at 1920x1080.

On Amazon:
CPU:
Intel Core i3-2100 Dual-Core Processor 3.1 GHz 3 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80623I32100
$117.59
OR
AMD Phenom II X4 965 AM3 3.4Ghz 512KB 45NM 125W 4000MHZ
$109.99

Video Card:
MSI Radeon HD 6870 1 GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity R6870 Twin Frozr II
$153.29
OR
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Superclocked 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 2DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Graphics Card, 01G-P3-1463-KR
$169.99

Any combination would keep you below your $300 cap for the CPU/GPU combo.

I think a 2GB video card is more for multi-monitors (please correct if I'm wrong). I've been using 1GB on my 24" @ 1920x1080 mostly on max settings (except for Witcher 2 where my 6870 was brought to it's knees).

Hope this helps.
+1 all good advice i agree with it all :) 
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August 20, 2012 9:43:32 AM

footlong96 said:
Im leaning towards the 6870 and Phenom now. Would I experience any bottlenecking at stock frequencies?


I'd think it won't really max out a top-end video card but the loss is not huge in relation to it's price point.

I think for the price and performance they give, they're a great match.

Please check this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

The CPUs (both the I3 and the 955) can drive the 7970 (not at 100% though) but it's a good representation of what power the CPUs have at their bracket when paired with a top-end card.
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August 20, 2012 9:44:26 AM

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=290

These cards are neck and neck right? I might just overclock the 6870 a bit. :D 


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Choosing this card. 30$ Mail in Rebate. :love: 



Whats faster overall though. The i3 or the Phenom.
And would overclock teh i3 be simple if I wanted to in the future? Or am I stuck at stock.

Edit: Would a game that uses all four cores on a phenom still be slower on it compared to the i3 and its superior IPC.
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August 20, 2012 9:47:03 AM

Lol!No..no...the 560TI can be overclocked as well it smokes a 6870 but a 6870 is a great card you could get a 6950 that would be better than a 560 TI or a 6870
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August 20, 2012 9:54:02 AM

Personally i get the 965be over i3 and i am a intel fan so that should tell you right there lol
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August 20, 2012 9:56:35 AM

footlong96 said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/330?vs=290

These cards are neck and neck right? I might just overclock the 6870 a bit. :D 


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Choosing this card. 30$ Mail in Rebate. :love: 



Whats faster overall though. The i3 or the Phenom.
And would overclock teh i3 be simple if I wanted to in the future? Or am I stuck at stock.

Edit: Would a game that uses all four cores on a phenom still be slower on it compared to the i3 and its superior IPC.



Yes, they're neck and neck :)  I had the XFX 6870 but am switching to the eVGA 560 (once I get it, long story). Why the switch? Personally, just driver support and development.

Overall, Although I have the 955 (OC'ed to 3800), I'd opt for the I3. They are about the same (give or take) in games and the I3 pulls less energy and has newer architecture. If you're used to and just like fiddling around with OC settings, of course, the 955/965's the toy you want to play with (I think the I3 stock vs my 955 OC'ed would just be a fair match though).

In the end, it's just really preference. Given the chance, I'd switch, but I'm already happy with a 955 and a 6870 or a 560.
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August 20, 2012 9:59:35 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Personally i get the 965be over i3 and i am a intel fan so that should tell you right there lol


And I'm an AMD fan but I'm recommending the I3 :p  I think it's just really preference and what the PC will do most of the time. That'll be the toss right there.
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August 20, 2012 10:08:44 AM

bigcyco1 said:
Personally i get the 965be over i3 and i am a intel fan so that should tell you right there lol



Im an Intel fan as well, but unfortunately my wallet isnt. :lol: 

Idk decisions decisions.
Im guessing the i3 cant be overclocked at all?
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August 20, 2012 10:19:06 AM

footlong96 said:
Im an Intel fan as well, but unfortunately my wallet isnt. :lol: 

Idk decisions decisions.
Im guessing the i3 cant be overclocked at all?


A small bump on the base clock from what I've read but look at it this way, OC'ing the PII would mean more power draw just to match the I3 at stock on some applications. The PII is a fun toy though. I've been playing around with different combinations of settings seeing how far I can push it.

Honestly, any of the two would be a safe choice. at the price bracket, they're both great performers.
I'd suggest a good board for either so that you can have an upgrade path if you feel you're being left behind i.e. an AM3+ socket for the PII opens up bulldozer or piledriver (if AMD delivers better performance) in the future...
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August 20, 2012 10:20:23 AM

abegnale said:
And I'm an AMD fan but I'm recommending the I3 :p  I think it's just really preference and what the PC will do most of the time. That'll be the toss right there.
I prefer overclocking is why i pick the 965be :p 
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August 20, 2012 10:21:30 AM

abegnale said:
A small bump on the base clock from what I've read but look at it this way, OC'ing the PII would mean more power draw just to match the I3 at stock on some applications. The PII is a fun toy though. I've been playing around with different combinations of settings seeing how far I can push it.

Honestly, any of the two would be a safe choice. at the price bracket, they're both great performers.
I'd suggest a good board for either so that you can have an upgrade path if you feel you're being left behind i.e. an AM3+ socket for the PII opens up bulldozer or piledriver (if AMD delivers better performance) in the future...



AMD is going to continue to use teh AM3+ Socket?
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August 20, 2012 10:34:47 AM

I think I am staying with AMD then. Going with the PII and maybe a 6950. Breaking my budget a bit.
Hopefully no bottlenecking :pfff: 
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August 20, 2012 10:40:35 AM

footlong96 said:
I think I am staying with AMD then. Going with the PII and maybe a 6950. Breaking my budget a bit.
Hopefully no bottlenecking :pfff: 



Good choice and good luck!
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August 20, 2012 10:42:26 AM

footlong96 said:
I think I am staying with AMD then. Going with the PII and maybe a 6950. Breaking my budget a bit.
Hopefully no bottlenecking :pfff: 
Great choices and it won't bottleneck no worries anyway good luck! :) 
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August 20, 2012 10:43:02 AM

Best answer selected by footlong96.
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August 20, 2012 10:44:47 AM

Don't pay more than two hundred for 6950 or your being robbed lol
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