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August 20, 2012 8:58:32 AM

Purchase Date: November (Black Friday/Cyber Monday)

Budget Range: $1500 (Flexible)

System Usage: Gaming > Music/Movies > Web Surfing

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, not included in build budget.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website: Newegg

Location: Sandpoint, Idaho

Parts Preferences: I would like to stick to MSI/EVGA/CORSAIR/ANTEC, all reliable companies but open to suggestions.

Overclocking: Yes

SLI: Maybe (Not with the initial setup but yes, in the future.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 (27" at the bottom)

Additional Comments: This being my first computer that I am building and my lack of experience makes my 2 biggest questions and concerns that I’m looking for guidance.

1) Cooling.
With this setup should I be looking at Liquid Cooling? Or maybe just some aftermarket fans?

2) Upgrades.
I’m hoping that with this setup I wouldn’t be looking to upgrade for at least 2 years. But say I wanted to buy another GTX 670 FTW down the road to SLI. Would my CPU/MOBO be able to handle that? What parts would I have to upgrade besides the PSU if any to make that possible?

This computers sole purpose really is for gaming. Such games I would like to play on Ultra/HD settings would be the following: SC2, D3, Planet Side 2, GW2, Skyrim HD, BF3.

Why Are You Upgrading: Just have a Lenovo laptop that’s 4 years old now, I’m ready to build my first gaming rig.



CASE: Antec 900 ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR HX750 Modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4 GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MoBo: MSI Z77A-GD65 LGA 1155 Intel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO QUESTION: The MoBo below is $100 but virtually the same mobo as the original one I have picked out minus the "Thunderbolt Technology". I'm not too familiar with that, was hoping someone could clarify.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA GTX 670 FTW 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: OCZ Vertex 4 256GB (GAMES/OS)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD: WD Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM (MEDIA)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD / DVD: LITE-ON 18X DVD-ROM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Subtotal: $1,549.90

Monitor: ViewSonic LED 27” Full HD (I didn’t include the monitor in the $1500 budget, so I’m pushing $1800ish with the monitor)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks for taking the time to read through my post, looking forward to what kind of feedback I can get from some pros.

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August 20, 2012 11:06:53 AM

You've made some great choices for your parts. I'll answer your questions first before making any suggestions.

1) I'm not sure how hot it gets in Idaho so I can't answer with certainty. However, the MoBo should come with a temperature monitoring software that will let you know how hot your CPU and MoBo is getting.
In general, a setup like yours do not require water-cooling (I'm assuming you are not doing anything extreme with overclocking). The maximum temperature that your CPU will run normally is 90 degrees Celsius (mine stays below 60's even after loads). So, if you start feeling uncomfortable with your temps, that is the only time I would suggest thinking about extra cooling. For now, air-cooling should be fine.
Since you are overclocking however, you do need an aftermarket CPU cooler. The best in terms of price and efficiency is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. If you are overclocking only up to 4.2 GHz, this cooler would be fine. If you plan to go past that, you may want a stronger blower like the Noctua DH14.

2) You don't need to upgrade anything. Your build will be able to handle SLI.

Now for suggestions:
PSU: Your choice is very good. If you want to save some money, just get the XFX Pro 750W. It is silver-rated and semi-modular.

HDD: I would just stick with the WD Caviar Blue since your only using it as a data drive. Also try looking at the Samsung Spinpoint F3. It usually is cheaper without sacrificing performance.

SSD: Other choices I would also consider include Samsung 830, Crucial m4 and Plextor M3.

MoBo: Thunderbolt is a new technology. Not too familiar with it either but it allows you to chain thunderbolt-enabled devices. So instead of using multiple ports, you essentially are using one. Also, I think transfer rates are faster than USB 3.0. I would stick with the GD 65 if I were you. There are not that many Thunderbolt-enabled devices at the moment. Other MoBo's I would also suggest are the Asrock z77 Extreme 4 and Gigabyte z77x=ud3h.
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August 20, 2012 12:54:19 PM

l0v3rboi said:


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In general, a setup like yours do not require water-cooling (I'm assuming you are not doing anything extreme with overclocking). The maximum temperature that your CPU will run normally is 90 degrees Celsius (mine stays below 60's even after loads). So, if you start feeling uncomfortable with your temps, that is the only time I would suggest thinking about extra cooling. For now, air-cooling should be fine.
Since you are overclocking however, you do need an aftermarket CPU cooler. The best in terms of price and efficiency is the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo. If you are overclocking only up to 4.2 GHz, this cooler would be fine. If you plan to go past that, you may want a stronger blower like the Noctua DH14.


Thanks for the feedback, yeah I was reading into the Thunderbolt Tech. I'll have to pass on that, $100 doesn't seem worth it. I'm pretty confident on that build, just hoping for some price drops. Like you said, I'm not doing anything extreme with overclocking since it's my first time but I do want to get familiar with OC'ing. Might be a noob question but in terms of compatability. For a aftermarket CPU Cooler such as the ones you suggested, are all/most cases able to support that or is that something I'd have to research? I.E. Say I got the Antec 900 and the Hyper212 Evo, intall and go?
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August 20, 2012 1:45:08 PM

Here my suggestion

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: EVGA M020-00-000234 84.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($207.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($118.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($412.86 @ Newegg)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.71 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1484.47
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-20 09:39 EDT-0400)
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August 20, 2012 4:48:58 PM

Sambro_USA said:
Thanks for the feedback, yeah I was reading into the Thunderbolt Tech. I'll have to pass on that, $100 doesn't seem worth it. I'm pretty confident on that build, just hoping for some price drops. Like you said, I'm not doing anything extreme with overclocking since it's my first time but I do want to get familiar with OC'ing. Might be a noob question but in terms of compatability. For a aftermarket CPU Cooler such as the ones you suggested, are all/most cases able to support that or is that something I'd have to research? I.E. Say I got the Antec 900 and the Hyper212 Evo, intall and go?


I'm sure the Evo will fit in your case. The Noctua should be able to fit though it will be tight. Here is a build I would suggest for 1500.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.36 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($101.60 @ Mac Connection)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($122.71 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.89 @ Amazon)
Total: $1317.47
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-20 12:50 EDT-0400)
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August 20, 2012 5:45:50 PM

Add $40 to CPU cuz there is no microcenter in Idaho. Also, that motherboard price is before taxes, and microcenter charges taxes regardless of state of residence. I'd rather get it from newegg. I'd still go with L0v's build, though.
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September 1, 2012 6:02:20 PM

Best answer selected by Sambro_USA.
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