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August 21, 2012 1:22:38 AM

This is my first time putting together a new system entirely. Was looking for good budget and performance.
I am a bit confused on why everyone is recommending Intel for the CPU since it appears that AMD offers better performance for the same price. If I'm going with an AMD cpu does this affect whether I should be buying Geforce or Radeon?
Are these parts compatible?
Thanks

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week

Budget Range: ~600/700

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming

Are you buying a monitor:No

Parts to Upgrade: all

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Location: New Orleans

Parts Preferences: none

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner

EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power

COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1 Black SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX PS2 / EPS 12V (optional)

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL

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August 21, 2012 2:19:18 AM

First, for you living in LA I recommend using the american newegg.com (unless there is a New Orleans in Canada but your user being swamp I'll just assume your from Louisiana).
secondly, I've noticed it's very common for people new to this building scene (not unlike myself a few months ago) to assume AMD's CPUs are a better bang-for-buck when it comes to gaming but in reality they aren't. the Intel CPUs outpace the AMD in gaming. On the other hand for other things like video rendering/editing ect. I would recommend the AMD Bulldozer for the HTing, overclocking and for CPU intensive Apps.
This is my setup and it works wonders compaired to my outdated 300$ walmart special laptop.

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS
$59.99

Rosewill FUTURE Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, come with Four Fans
$54.99

ASRock B75M-GL LGA 1155 Intel B75 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel
$59.99

SAPPHIRE 100355L Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5
$239.99

Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155
$199.99

Kingston SSDNow V200 Series 2.5" 128GB SATA III (SSD)
$74.99

Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop
$38.49

SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA
$16.99

Subtotal: $745.42
Add or subtract what you don't need or want or think is overkill.
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August 21, 2012 2:27:41 AM

Swamp55 said:
This is my first time putting together a new system entirely. Was looking for good budget and performance.
I am a bit confused on why everyone is recommending Intel for the CPU since it appears that AMD offers better performance for the same price. If I'm going with an AMD cpu does this affect whether I should be buying Geforce or Radeon?
Are these parts compatible?
Thanks

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: this week

Budget Range: ~600/700

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming

Are you buying a monitor:No

Parts to Upgrade: all

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Location: New Orleans

Parts Preferences: none

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner

EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power

COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer SGC-1000-KWN1 Black SECC / ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ATX PS2 / EPS 12V (optional)

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL

I would suggest using a Phenom II 965 in lieu of the FX-4100/4170,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
its the same price and its a better performing CPU, yes its compatible with everything, and yes its a very decent system. Most people recommend Intel heavily because there is something to be said for their typically superior performance, however in most cases, its not as black and white as the person making the claim wants you to see.

For example, Phenom IIs vs i3. Yes, stock to stock, the i3 has stronger individual cores. However Phenom IIs overclock well enough to match the i3, and in multithreading tasks, like video encoding, rendering, editing, etc. The Phenom IIs eat the i3 for lunch with its 4 true cores. Most games though only use 2 cores, this is why the i3 makes a hell of a CPU for a dual core.

The other factor that has to be considering in gaming is the video card. Yes some games are CPU intensive, but 95% of them are going to be limited by the video card you choose, not the CPU. Thus, while you do want a halfway decent CPU in order to have a well balanced system, but generally, trimming the CPU budget to net you a better video card is not a bad idea. Although, you wouldn't want to go too extreme like a Phenom II or i3 with a GTX 670, I would call that unbalanced.
August 21, 2012 2:45:09 AM

emeraldarcher7 said:
First, for you living in LA I recommend using the american newegg.com (unless there is a New Orleans in Canada but your user being swamp I'll just assume your from Louisiana).
secondly, I've noticed it's very common for people new to this building scene (not unlike myself a few months ago) to assume AMD's CPUs are a better bang-for-buck when it comes to gaming but in reality they aren't. the Intel CPUs outpace the AMD in gaming. On the other hand for other things like video rendering/editing ect. I would recommend the AMD Bulldozer for the HTing, overclocking and for CPU intensive Apps.
This is my setup and it works wonders compaired to my outdated 300$ walmart special laptop.


I wouldn't recommend an FX-4xxx over a Phenom II for any reason whatsoever lol.

As far as the bang for the buck, yes. Currently $109.99 Phenom II 965s from Newegg are a better bang for the buck than i3s. At least if you ask me, even for gaming. The most CPU intensive games that tech sites like this one can find to benchmark show the i3 having a very slight benchmarkable difference that translate into if one were to put two computers in front of you with identical specs, the only difference between them being one has an i3 and the other a Phenom II, playing the same games at the same settings, you'd never be able to pick out which is which honestly.

LOL, I should hope that system of yours beats any laptop on the market today under $3000. :kaola: 
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