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August 21, 2012 5:51:23 AM

Hey guys, so I've put together a list, I'm in a hurry to get this done in the next day or two (need it for a project). For this reason all my links are listed to a store as opposed to newegg (yeah yeah sorry guys:p ).

I'm looking to do some gaming and some light video editing. I also want this computer to have an SSD. I know that adds to the cost but it's important to me. I have a few other drives kicking about for massive storage anyways.

Also I would like to stick with Intel.

Here's what I've got so far.

SSD: Corsair Force Series 3 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179_1088&item_id=039124
$129

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65&item_id=035531
$219

Mobo: ASRock Z77 Pro3 Socket 1155 Intel Z77 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 2800+
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_722&item_id=047864
$129

GPU: Gigabyte GV-N550D5-1GI GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB GDDR5
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=046725
$129

PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 600 Watt 80 PLUS Certified Power Supply
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_442&item_id=038034
$75

Case: Antec VSK-1000 ATX Mid Tower Case BLACK
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_804&item_id=039883
$34

Memory: Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_612&item_id=041084
$47

Total: $762

Hope I laid it out in a readable manner. If there's stuff here that doesn't work well together I would love to hear your input. If theres anything I should be spending less on I would love to hear it.

Thanks in advance!
August 21, 2012 5:54:36 AM

Not worth the cash that CPU. Get an i5-2400 or an i5-3450.
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August 21, 2012 6:00:48 AM

azeem40 said:
Not worth the cash that CPU. Get an i5-2400 or an i5-3450.


From the store I'll be shopping at there is really only a $15 difference after rebates, so I figured I would choose the i5-2500. Are the other two better in any way than price?
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August 21, 2012 6:03:12 AM

They are better simply because they will perform the same as the 2500 in games.
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August 21, 2012 6:05:17 AM

azeem40 said:
They are better simply because they will perform the same as the 2500 in games.


I'm going to be doing some slight After Effects work, nothing really taxing, but I will be using it here and there. Does that come into play at all?

ps sorry 'bout all the questions, I have been researching but its a bit overwhelming
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August 21, 2012 6:17:08 AM

An i7 would help more than speed in After Effects, but slight work isn't needed for an i7.
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August 21, 2012 6:19:53 AM

azeem40 said:
An i7 would help more than speed in After Effects, but slight work isn't needed for an i7.


Thanks for the advice!
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August 21, 2012 6:25:40 AM

That RAM is 1.65v, which is bad for your Intel CPU. They weren't designed to handle more than 1.5v. Given enough time, the added voltage can damage the internal memory controller.
Heres a good kit that runs at 1.5v.
G.Skill Ares 8GB (2x4GB) 1600Mhz CL9 1.5v. $50
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...

May I suggest this SSD instead?
OCZ Vertex 4 128GB. $105
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...
Its pretty much the fastest (Well, fighting for top position) on the market right now, and will only get faster as OCZ pump out updates. Bit cheaper as well.

Looks good.
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August 21, 2012 6:30:03 AM

manofchalk said:
That RAM is 1.65v, which is bad for your Intel CPU. They weren't designed to handle more than 1.5v. Given enough time, the added voltage can damage the internal memory controller.
Heres a good kit that runs at 1.5v.
G.Skill Ares 8GB (2x4GB) 1600Mhz CL9 1.5v. $50
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...

May I suggest this SSD instead?
OCZ Vertex 4 128GB. $105
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...
Its pretty much the fastest (Well, fighting for top position) on the market right now, and will only get faster as OCZ pump out updates. Bit cheaper as well.

Looks good.


Perfect, thanks! You guys are great!
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August 21, 2012 7:01:20 AM

manofchalk said:
That RAM is 1.65v, which is bad for your Intel CPU. They weren't designed to handle more than 1.5v. Given enough time, the added voltage can damage the internal memory controller.
Heres a good kit that runs at 1.5v.
G.Skill Ares 8GB (2x4GB) 1600Mhz CL9 1.5v. $50
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...

May I suggest this SSD instead?
OCZ Vertex 4 128GB. $105
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...
Its pretty much the fastest (Well, fighting for top position) on the market right now, and will only get faster as OCZ pump out updates. Bit cheaper as well.

Looks good.


One question..or two I suppose. Is that mobo one that can do double video card thing? I keep reading about that... And is the power supply big enough if i decide to do that in the future? Is what I'm talking about even a thing?
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August 21, 2012 7:16:26 AM

What you are talking about is Crossfire/SLI, and yes its possible (can even get up to 4 cards in extreme rigs). That motherboard will technically support dual Crossfire/SLI, but to do so would probably degrade performance below a single card.

The mobo has a single 16x slot (refers to the amount of bandwidth on the PCI-e) and another 4x slot. So a single GPU will use the 16x slot, but to put one in the 4x slot will slow down the other card to make it compatible. So you might end up with less performance than before.

Besides, it would be a better option just to get a faster single card, that 550Ti is quite old now and wasn't that special back then either.

Technically that PSU should hold dual cards, but generally if dual Crossfire/SLI is a possibility people go with 750W supply's.
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August 21, 2012 7:16:32 AM

manofchalk said:
What you are talking about is Crossfire/SLI, and yes its possible (can even get up to 4 cards in extreme rigs). That motherboard will technically support dual Crossfire/SLI, but to do so would probably degrade performance below a single card.

The mobo has a single 16x slot (refers to the amount of bandwidth on the PCI-e) and another 4x slot. So a single GPU will use the 16x slot, but to put one in the 4x slot will slow down the other card to make it compatible. So you might end up with less performance than before.

Besides, it would be a better option just to get a faster single card, that 550Ti is quite old now and wasn't that special back then either.

Technically that PSU should hold dual cards, but generally if dual Crossfire/SLI is a possibility people go with 750W supply's.


Ah ok that makes sense. Would you suggest a different GPU or is that one okay for the price?
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August 21, 2012 7:34:28 AM

If you can spend more money on the GPU, go for it. That will give you the biggest performance boost in gaming. The mid range card to get is the HD7850, but they come in at ~$250 so may be a bit out of your price range.

A good competitor against the 550Ti is the HD7770. According to Anandtech (very good review site), it beats the 550Ti across the board. Its power consumption is considerably better as well.
ASUS HD7770. $140
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=541
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August 21, 2012 7:51:10 AM

if i may. tbh the corsair cx series are ok but not as good as the other series that are made by seasonic. and with a single graphics card there is no reason to go above 550 watt unless you are sporting a GTX580.

here is a bit better, more amps on the 12 volt rail (where you need it) and less on the 3.3 and 5 volt rail (where you don't need it)
XFX 550W PRO550W $64.99 CAD
After Mail In Rebate: $54.99 CAD

and yes the 550ti in a lower midrange gpu, though i don't have a problem gaming with it myself @1080, and even though the 7770 is better at gaming; if you want to take advantage of using cuda while video rendering a 560 would be a better choice.
GV-N56GOC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 OC $139.99
$119.99 After Rebate

and it performer better than the 7770.
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August 21, 2012 11:06:21 AM

Anonymous said:
if i may. tbh the corsair cx series are ok but not as good as the other series that are made by seasonic. and with a single graphics card there is no reason to go above 550 watt unless you are sporting a GTX580.

here is a bit better, more amps on the 12 volt rail (where you need it) and less on the 3.3 and 5 volt rail (where you don't need it)
XFX 550W PRO550W $64.99 CAD
After Mail In Rebate: $54.99 CAD

and yes the 550ti in a lower midrange gpu, though i don't have a problem gaming with it myself @1080, and even though the 7770 is better at gaming; if you want to take advantage of using cuda while video rendering a 560 would be a better choice.
GV-N56GOC-1GI GeForce GTX 560 OC $139.99
$119.99 After Rebate

and it performer better than the 7770.



Thank you for the advice.
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August 21, 2012 1:06:54 PM

I just sold a buncha *** I had layin around, and I'm up about 400$. So I have around $1100 for this build. Any improvements you guys could suggest to my list? Frig I'm sorry I'm being so back n forth.

Again, my biggest problem being I can only buy products from Canada Computers.
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August 21, 2012 9:37:39 PM

Upgrade the CPU to a 3570k.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...

Extreme4 motherboard.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...

A better rated Power Supply with more wattage (that will cover you for dual SLI/Crossfire).
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3...

A HD7850.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...

A better case.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6...

That will take care of that extra $400.
Sorrry I cant explain why on each component, but I'm in a bit of a rush right now.
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August 21, 2012 10:25:08 PM

manofchalk said:
Upgrade the CPU to a 3570k.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
Extreme4 motherboard.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...
A better rated Power Supply with more wattage (that will cover you for dual SLI/Crossfire).
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3...
A HD7850.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
A better case.
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6...
That will take care of that extra $400.
Sorrry I cant explain why on each component, but I'm in a bit of a rush right now.


thats nice and all but that corsair HX750 isn't *that* great of a PSU being made by CWT and not seasonic.
(and its a pet peeve how everyone recommends a 750 watt PSU for sli when a 650 watt is more than enough)
here is a 660 watt gold rated modular
Seasonic X-660 Fully Modular $ 129.99
and i'll boldly state that the seasonic X series are some of the best PSUs today.
Seasonic X-Series: X-660 Power Supply Review
Seasonic Power Supply Units Roundup.
what sets this PSU apart from the rest is its over 82% efficiency* under 20% load where most other PSUs are under 73% (and most rigs are idling)

*assuming it is as the rest of the series:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...


(ok yeah i am a HUGE fan of those . .)
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August 22, 2012 7:25:44 AM

I have no doubt that Seasonic PSU's are great, if they weren't ridiculously expensive where I live I would probably have one (750W Seasonic, 80+ Bronze at $190, while my 750W 80+ Silver Silverstone at $150).

Also 82% efficient under 20% load isn't all that rare. Here's my Silverstone doing exactly that at 10% load.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

And I am also aware that you can run dual cards quite comfortably on 650W, but its good to have the headroom.
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