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August 21, 2012 4:29:15 PM


I have been looking at parts and prices for the past month while waiting to have enough money to spend.

I am wanting a gaming computer that will last me a few years down the road.

My budget is around $2000 but the lower the better. Right now with the parts below are totaled at $2150 w/Tax/Shipping

Are these parts compatible with each other? Am I way off on any of the parts as in too much power or not enough?
Feel free to call me an idiot because this is my first time building a gaming rig.

Any suggestions for mistakes or better suiting parts is strongly encouraged! I'd appreciate the help. [

Here is what i have come up with:


Processor: Intel Core i&-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5Hz(3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W – $339.99 (-15 w/combo)

Motherboard: Intel BOXDZ&&GA70K LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - $219.99

Graphics Card: EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2 GB 256-bit - $407.99

Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower 1375W ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified - $299.99 w/rebate

Memory: G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (2x8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1333 – $83.99

SSD: Intel 520 Series Cherryville 2.5” 120GB SATA III MLC – $131.99

HD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5” – $119.99

Case: NZXT Phantom Black/Green Trim Steel/Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case - $119.99

Monitor:ASUS VK248H-CSM Black 24” 2ms HDMI Widescreen LED-Blacklit LCD Built-in speakers &webcam - $214.99

Keyboard: Tt eSPORTS CHALLENGER ULTIMATE Gaming Keyboard - $81.99

Mouse: RAZER Naga 2012 Black 17 Buttons 1xWheel USB Wired Laser Expert MMO Gaming Mouse - $79.99

Game: W/ Graphics card comes Borderlands2 (Free)

August 21, 2012 4:42:17 PM

For a gaming system:

Drop the i7-3770K in favour of the i5-3570K...a quad-core is sufficient for gaming. You can also drop the RAM to 2x4GB. If you're doing a reasonable amount of video-editing, you can disregard those two suggestions, otherwise make those changes.

I think Intel motherboard are good, but never used them myself (or heard many reviews, to be honest). Check out Asus or MSI for decent gaming motherboards...if you're overclocking (which you probably will, going for a 'K' CPU), then something like the Asus P8Z77-V Pro would work.

You don't need a PSU anywhere near that rating. If you think you'll go multi-GPU (2) at some point then go for a 750W unit from someone like Corsair, Seasonic or Enermax. Mic that is the plan, make sure your motherboard supports SLI, not all do (as you're going with Nvidia and not AMD for your GPU).

You could also drop that HDD to 2TB, unless you need the space particularly. The keyboard and mouse are personal preference, but only get an MMO mouse if you're going to be playing MMOs...those buttons will probably get annoying otherwise!

Btw, overall a good build...you've got the idea. Just needs some tweaking to make it more optimised to what you want to use it for. :0)
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August 21, 2012 4:50:22 PM

That's good advice from Diellur, a lot of people think they will get a more "future proof" machine if they put in an I7 and 16gb ram and that's just not the case. The current cpu/ddr technology wil be obsolete before either hyperthreading or 16gb ram is going to be needed in gaming, so save your hard earned money and put it to use elsewhere (unless you will be doing SERIOUS video editing or such, in which case you will see a benefit from the I7 and extra ram).
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August 21, 2012 5:04:33 PM

diellur said:
For a gaming system:

Drop the i7-3770K in favour of the i5-3570K...a quad-core is sufficient for gaming. You can also drop the RAM to 2x4GB. If you're doing a reasonable amount of video-editing, you can disregard those two suggestions, otherwise make those changes.

I think Intel motherboard are good, but never used them myself (or heard many reviews, to be honest). Check out Asus or MSI for decent gaming motherboards...if you're overclocking (which you probably will, going for a 'K' CPU), then something like the Asus P8Z77-V Pro would work.

You don't need a PSU anywhere near that rating. If you think you'll go multi-GPU (2) at some point then go for a 750W unit from someone like Corsair, Seasonic or Enermax. Mic that is the plan, make sure your motherboard supports SLI, not all do (as you're going with Nvidia and not AMD for your GPU).

You could also drop that HDD to 2TB, unless you need the space particularly. The keyboard and mouse are personal preference, but only get an MMO mouse if you're going to be playing MMOs...those buttons will probably get annoying otherwise!

Btw, overall a good build...you've got the idea. Just needs some tweaking to make it more optimised to what you want to use it for. :0)


Thanks for the suggestions and advise!

I will definatly look into the i5-3570k, saves alot of money!

Do I need cooling for the processor as well? Like liquid cooling or more efficient fan?
When looking at Asus P8Z77-V mother boards, how do you judge how good a board is? or what you need?
In the case of the SSD, if I just go with an SSD and no HDD, should I get one that can store more?
What PSU would you recommend out of those three?
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August 21, 2012 5:05:57 PM

edtheguy said:
That's good advice from Diellur, a lot of people think they will get a more "future proof" machine if they put in an I7 and 16gb ram and that's just not the case. The current cpu/ddr technology wil be obsolete before either hyperthreading or 16gb ram is going to be needed in gaming, so save your hard earned money and put it to use elsewhere (unless you will be doing SERIOUS video editing or such, in which case you will see a benefit from the I7 and extra ram).


Exactly, that's a classic rookie mistake that a lot of people with that much cash to spend on a system make. There's no such thing as future proofing a build especially when you take into account that the Ivy Bridge CPUs are the last line in the LGA 1155 socket - that's a huge moot point. It will be several years before games catch up to what's available in the i7.

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I think Intel motherboard are good, but never used them myself (or heard many reviews, to be honest). Check out Asus or MSI for decent gaming motherboards...if you're overclocking (which you probably will, going for a 'K' CPU), then something like the Asus P8Z77-V Pro would work.


Intel boards are incredibly overpriced and very bland for the feature sets they offer. It's better to go with Asus, Gigabyte, or Asrock. That build is a good start - 1K+ PSUs are massive overkill anymore - and Thermaltake is horrendously unreliable in that department. I'd also switch out the SSD and way too much money spent on peripherals, IMO.

Try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($118.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($407.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS112-04 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1492.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-21 13:05 EDT-0400)

Then use the difference for a nice monitor and whatever peripherals you want.
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August 21, 2012 5:13:53 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Exactly, that's a classic rookie mistake that a lot of people with that much cash to spend on a system make. There's no such thing as future proofing a build especially when you take into account that the Ivy Bridge CPUs are the last line in the LGA 1155 socket - that's a huge moot point. It will be several years before games catch up to what's available in the i7.

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I think Intel motherboard are good, but never used them myself (or heard many reviews, to be honest). Check out Asus or MSI for decent gaming motherboards...if you're overclocking (which you probably will, going for a 'K' CPU), then something like the Asus P8Z77-V Pro would work.


Intel boards are incredibly overpriced and very bland for the feature sets they offer. It's better to go with Asus, Gigabyte, or Asrock. That build is a good start - 1K+ PSUs are massive overkill anymore - and Thermaltake is horrendously unreliable in that department. I'd also switch out the SSD and way too much money spent on peripherals, IMO.

Try something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($118.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($407.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS112-04 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1492.89
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-21 13:05 EDT-0400)

Then use the difference for a nice monitor and whatever peripherals you want.


Thanks! That price looks way better and will still achieve the same goal.

How much HDD would you get if I drop the SSD?
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August 21, 2012 5:23:20 PM

jason5535 said:
Thanks! That price looks way better and will still achieve the same goal.

How much HDD would you get if I drop the SSD?


I meant to include a 2TB hard drive in there but the SSD will drastically improve load / boot times over any mechanical HD.

Fixed:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($118.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($407.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS112-04 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1612.88
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-21 13:23 EDT-0400)
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August 21, 2012 5:30:00 PM

A SSD is an excellent place to put the $$ that you're NOT spending on the I7/16GB RAM. I still can't believe how much of a difference it makes on my new rig.
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August 21, 2012 5:32:23 PM

My thoughts:

I5 3570k & ASRock Z77 extreme 4 Mobo (microcenter for the best combo deals)
CM Evo 212 aftermarket cooler
SDD: Intel 330 180 GB (Samsung 830, Crucial M4, Intel all good brands) - I own this and love the SSD ! I would not go below 120 GB
Case: HAF 912 - big, but will fit anything now and in the future ($60)
PSU: Single Card - 600 watt is fine, I like my PC Powr and Coolling Mk III,
Corsair, Seasonic are great companies
Optical Drive: Cheap one ($20) to load windows and an occasional game
Gaming Mouse: Razor Death Adder - great feel to the mouse ...

Almost forgot: pcpartpicker.com is a great place to 'shop' and build, but there is no substitute for newegg (best reviews - read and learn), amazon, and microcenter for purchases and for the build: youtube: 'newegg computer build parts 2&3' ... good luck !!
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August 21, 2012 5:35:36 PM

odiervr said:
My thoughts:

I5 3570k & ASRock Z77 extreme 4 Mobo (microcenter for the best combo deals)
CM Evo 212 aftermarket cooler
SDD: Intel 330 180 GB (Samsung 830, Crucial M4, Intel all good brands) - I own this and love the SSD ! I would not go below 120 GB
Case: HAF 912 - big, but will fit anything now and in the future ($60)
PSU: Single Card - 600 watt is fine, I like my PC Powr and Coolling Mk III,
Corsair, Seasonic are great companies
Optical Drive: Cheap one ($20) to load windows and an occasional game
Gaming Mouse: Razor Death Adder - great feel to the mouse ...

Almost forgot: pcpartpicker.com is a great place to 'shop' and build, but there is no substitute for newegg (best reviews - read and learn), amazon, and microcenter for purchases and for the build: youtube: 'newegg computer build parts 2&3' ... good luck !!


I would not purchase an Intel 330, and it makes no sense to purchase a $60 case on a $2K build - get a nice case like a Switch 810 or Corsair Graphite 600T.
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August 21, 2012 5:39:40 PM

HAF 912s aren't bad cases for the money, but I agree at that budget level you can do much better. My biggest gripe with the HAF 912 is that the back panel and inside are not painted. Its a blatant corner cutting moneysaver on the part of CoolerMaster on an otherwise stellar case for $60.
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August 21, 2012 6:08:27 PM

nekulturny said:
HAF 912s aren't bad cases for the money, but I agree at that budget level you can do much better. My biggest gripe with the HAF 912 is that the back panel and inside are not painted. Its a blatant corner cutting moneysaver on the part of CoolerMaster on an otherwise stellar case for $60.


Yeah I have that case on my work PC and it is a good case but for the level of the build I wouldn't use it. I definitely agree that the interior could have been painted black and that was a bad move on CM's part.
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August 21, 2012 7:12:07 PM

odiervr said:
My thoughts:

I5 3570k & ASRock Z77 extreme 4 Mobo (microcenter for the best combo deals)
CM Evo 212 aftermarket cooler
SDD: Intel 330 180 GB (Samsung 830, Crucial M4, Intel all good brands) - I own this and love the SSD ! I would not go below 120 GB
Case: HAF 912 - big, but will fit anything now and in the future ($60)
PSU: Single Card - 600 watt is fine, I like my PC Powr and Coolling Mk III,
Corsair, Seasonic are great companies
Optical Drive: Cheap one ($20) to load windows and an occasional game
Gaming Mouse: Razor Death Adder - great feel to the mouse ...

Almost forgot: pcpartpicker.com is a great place to 'shop' and build, but there is no substitute for newegg (best reviews - read and learn), amazon, and microcenter for purchases and for the build: youtube: 'newegg computer build parts 2&3' ... good luck !!



Thanks for the help! I am going to post again the rig with the parts that you and the others have talked about. I appreciate it!
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August 21, 2012 7:17:21 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I meant to include a 2TB hard drive in there but the SSD will drastically improve load / boot times over any mechanical HD.

Fixed:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($85.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F4 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($118.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($407.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($179.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: PC Power & Cooling 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHBS112-04 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1612.88
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-21 13:23 EDT-0400)



Thank for the advice! I am going to post again with the new parts I think will work. Thanks for the help!
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August 22, 2012 6:58:06 AM

I'd definitely get an aftermarket cooler for that CPU, as you'll likely overclock. You don't need liquid cooling, that's personal preference. Just bear in mind if you get a big cooler like the NH-D14, then it'll overhang the RAM slots...you're best getting low profile RAM, in that case. If you want to go liquid cooling, then the Corsair and Antec Kuhler ranges are good...pricier than air-cooling, though.

An SSD is essential in a good system, IMHO. The change in boot times and loading programmes is incredible. Personally I use my SSD for Windows and applications like Office, and leave the games on my 1TB drive. If you want to install games on it, then a larger one (250GB ish) is advisable...if not, then you can get away with 90-120GB.

Cases are personal preference, but there's a good point made in getting a good one for the budget you're looking at. My personal preferences are Corsair, Silverstone and Fractal Design, in that order.
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