Help with building PC.

[cartman28279]

Hey everyone. I need help with something from you guys today. I want to start adding on to my computer more to make my games play 100% better because right now they're playing pretty well but I need a performance increase for most of my games. Like I just bought a 7850 about a month ago and it plays my games so much better compared to the terrible AMD Radeon HD 6450 I had before hand. Games like APB on my last card played it around 20 fps on low, now on this I can play it maxed at around 60 fps. But other games like GTA IV, Day Z, and PlanetSide 2 play almost the same as the last card I had no matter what settings I play on. For example, on Planetside 2 on Very High Settings the most I get is 25 fps maxed out, but then when I set it as low as I can it's at 25 fps too. Same with ARMA 2 DayZ and GTA IV as well, I change the settings to max it out and and the fps usually stays the same no matter what setting I play on. I know I definitely need a new processor because it seems like that might be what's holding everything back. I don't know which one to get yet though, like I'm thinking of spending at most 260$ or less on a new one. But I probably need a new motherboard too. And if I find a really good quad core processor for around that price, for example something like an i7. how much more FPS would I get on my games. Like on DayZ sometimes it feels unplayable because when I'm in cities sometimes my fps drops to 9 and at most I get 20 fps in the towns. I'm just wondering how much more performance a new processor like that would give me because I've never changed CPU's before so I don't know to much about them. Anyways, right now I'll start off with the specs I have.

My Specs:

AMD Athlon II X2 260 3.2 ghz

Power Color Radeon 7850

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W

4 gb Ram

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OS

465 gb Hard Drive



Just tell me what I need right now if you guys don't mind and how much of a performance increase a new CPU would give. I really want to figure this out soon so I know what to buy.


Thanks for reading!

 

[skitz9417]

i would go for a fx 4300 it will give you better performce

 

[e56imfg]

What type of mobo socket do you have?

 

[cartman28279]

How do I check which motherboard socket I have? @skitz9417 I was thinking about getting an Intel btw

 

[e56imfg]

i would go for a fx 4300 it will give you better performce

How do I check which motherboard socket I have? @skitz9417 I was thinking about getting an Intel btw

Just tell us the model of your mobo or PC (if it's an OEM)

 

[cartman28279]

Sorry I took long to reply, lol. But anyways, I think this is the model:

ASUS M4N68T-M V2

 

[skitz9417]

if u can find a amd phemon x4 cpu like a 955 or 965be

 

[cartman28279]

I'm willing to buy a new mobo for a really good cpu though. I'd spend up to 260 or 250 for a new cpu, plus the extra money for the motherboard. I just don't know what to get.

 

[e56imfg]

I'm willing to buy a new mobo for a really good cpu though. I'd spend up to 260 or 250 for a new cpu, plus the extra money for the motherboard. I just don't know what to get.

You would spend 260 or 250 JUST for the CPU? Or both CPU and mobo?

 

[cartman28279]

You would spend 260 or 250 JUST for the CPU? Or both CPU and mobo?

Well around 250 or less just for the processor, and whatever else to get the mobo unless it's too expensive like over 130$ or somewhere around there.

 

[e56imfg]

Well around 250 or less just for the processor, and whatever else to get the mobo unless it's too expensive like over 130$ or somewhere around there.

Buy a 3570K and a Gigabyte Z77-D3H

 

[cartman28279]

Alright thanks for the quick reply! lol

Btw, I just wanted to get an idea of what I needed, but what other CPU would compare to the 3570k that's cheaper? If there isn't one that's ok and I'll try for this one, but I was just wondering right now because I need to get money for the parts still.

 

[e56imfg]

Alright thanks for the quick reply! lol

Btw, I just wanted to get an idea of what I needed, but what other CPU would compare to the 3570k that's cheaper? If there isn't one that's ok and I'll try for this one, but I was just wondering right now because I need to get money for the parts still.

If you aren't going to overclock, then grab a 3470 / 3450 / 3350P / 3350 (which ever one is the cheapest during the time of your purchase.
But trust me, the $220 is totally worth it since you can overclock it.

 

[ashharun]

do you like to play with overclock? If yes, you should get an i5-3570K, you will get great boost compare to your current cpu. If you don't bother with OC, you can get i5-3470. But $15 more and you can get i5-3570K.. Hard to not buy the i5-3570k. You had the money, so just buy that i5-3570k, lol :lol:

From my experience, i prefer Asrock Extreme 4. You can use SLI/Xfire later with a full x8/x8 pci-e. But i think the price around 140$-150$

 

[cartman28279]

@e56imfg I never really overclock, but do you think I should get it just in case if I ever do start overclocking.?

@ashharun I'm still trying to decide, lol. But if I were to get the 3570k, would the mobo e56imfg posted work fine with it?


Another thing btw, how much performance would I get with the 3570k paired with my 7850 compared to my AMD Athlon II X2 260 and the 7850 setup I currently have?

Let's say on Day Z the average fps I get is around 20, how much more fps could I expect to be playing around with the 3570k?

Thanks so far

 

[ashharun]

It'll be work fine. But if you think to add another 7850 later (who know how much the price will go down when 8000 series out) to get better performance, i suggest the Asrock Extreme 4. If you don't want to use multi card, just choose other z77 board. Gigabyte is very good brand too .

When i use athlon x2 7750 with HD4850, i got 20-28 fps in default setting when playing Sleeping Dogs. When i upgrade to i5-3470 with the same graphic card, the fps increase to 45-57 fps. lol. That absolutely great upgrade, never disappoint with my cpu.

 

[cartman28279]

Alright thanks! And I don't think I'll be getting two cards, I'll just probably stick with this one. But if I get this setup, could I pretty much run any game out there maxed.? Just wondering, haha

 

[jacobsta811]

at 1080p the 7850 will run pretty much all games with a decent CPU (and even an FX-4300 or i3-3220 would be enough more CPU to unbottleneck it - but the 3570k is definitely the best value CPU available at any price right now). It won't run all games at ultra settings at 1080p - you need like a 680 to run ultra on like every game available since some are really demanding. But you won't have to turn down the settings much and you definitely won't be telling us that lowering the graphics settings does nothing for your framerate.

 

[e56imfg]

Alright thanks! And I don't think I'll be getting two cards, I'll just probably stick with this one. But if I get this setup, could I pretty much run any game out there maxed.? Just wondering, haha

If you're only gaming, overclocking won't do a whole lot, but it will make a noticeable difference. If you don't want to overclock, the lower end Ivy Bridge i5 are more than enough for gaming.

A 7850 could run everything at max / high @30 to 60 FPS depending on which type of game.

 

[ashharun]

depend on what resolution you play. Resolution below 1600x900, 7850 can play most game max. But not for 1920x1080 i think. But hey, high and ultra setting not that much difference, and when you play great game, maybe you can't notice the difference because you have too much attention to enjoy the game

 

[cartman28279]

Alright, and sorry for the late reply, but I play 1920x1080 sometimes but it doesn't matter, I'll play at 1600x900 if I need to though lol