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August 22, 2012 12:35:40 PM

Hi Guys,
So this'll be first ever pc build. So I'm just after some advice on the parts selected. I really don't want to spend over $1000 but maybe willing to go to $1200 if you convince me :p 

I have the basic items (monitor/keyboard/mouse/etc) I also have a HDD which I would like to keep, but I read somewhere for 16gb of Ram you need to upgrade to Windows 7 Pro. If thats the case.. I'll add an SSD (Boot drive) and Windows 7 Pro (Theres a few bob!)

But feel free to change anything around.


Case/Power Supply: ABS Majesty series MJ1100-M and Rosewill THOR V2 Gaming ATX Full Tower Computer Case Package $204.98

Mobo: ASRock Z77 Pro4 $109.99

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz $339.99 Is Ivy Bridge overkill?

CPU Cooler (For minor overclock): COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 $34.99 (P.S: I don't have thermal paste, but I believe some is included)

Memory: CORSAIR XMS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 $84.99 Sure it's probably overkill, but Ram's not really that expensive.

GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit $249.99 I'm unsure of this graphics card, I can't seem to find one that has 2xHDMI Outputs :/ 


I'm sure you guys are thinking "Hahaha, what an amateur" And I would have to agree.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 22, 2012 3:05:55 PM

It's actually quite proper
Cooler comes with paste
1100W is alot,but at that price can't complain.
Patriot or g skill ram overclocks better and is better value.
The card is good for 1080p but not much higher like 1440.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 22, 2012 3:31:00 PM

Here is a build I would recommend for your purposes for about $1000:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($118.59 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($78.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos 60GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($244.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Enforcer ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $983.50
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-22 11:32 EDT-0400)

I already included the SSD. Didn't add the OS though as I'm unsure if you already have one or not. The Home Premium can use up to 16 Gb of RAM. If you plan to go over that then you need the Pro version.

The PSU in my build is more reliable. I've never even heard of ABS so I won't recommend it. If your PSU goes, it can take your entire PC with it so don't cheap out.

Also, you can xFire/SLI, and overclock with my build.
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August 22, 2012 3:36:59 PM

U might wanna consider 64 bit OS for better ram/memory support.........

32 bit max 3 Gb whatever it pro or basic ............
a b B Homebuilt system
August 22, 2012 6:04:15 PM

^ABS is a very good psu.
August 22, 2012 10:06:59 PM

Thanks heaps for all the response..

I did Think the cooler came with some, but I still had to double check.
I'll defiantly look into Patriot or G Skill.
And I might look into a different GPU, as I may run dual monitors.

Main difference between i7-3770 and i7-2600?
Is 4x4 ram better that 2x8?
So I'd just use that as a boot drive? or would it be better to scrap that and getter a better GPU?
I think I'll keep my Case and Supply? together they are worth over 400 and as Allan said ABS aren't bad.
Oh and I wouldn't need the drive.

I currently have 64bit installed on my 1tb hard drive.

ABS didn't seem too bad.

Edit: How does the Patriot Gamer 2 Series 16GB go?
a b B Homebuilt system
August 23, 2012 2:32:46 AM

i7 3770 is ivy bridge,i7 2600 is sandy bridge,hence different motherboards. Go with ivy bridge,similar price,more features.
2×8 ram will expand to 32gb. 4×4 ram fills all your slots. There's not much performance increase between dual and quad channel ram,but don't use a single stick.
Keep the boot drive,and put your video editing software there too. You'll see a huge difference.
Good ram but you'll want 1600mhz http://newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682023...
August 23, 2012 8:47:20 AM

Edit: New Final with some changes.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force Series GT 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1102.80
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-23 06:32 EDT-0400)

Plus the $200 Case/Power Supply deal at newegg.

Thoughts?
I choose to go all through newegg. Just so as soon as it arrives I can get straight to work.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 23, 2012 9:33:27 AM

^Switch to a gtx 670/660ti for the cuda cores. Also consider a ssd for your os and work software.Otherwise spot on.
August 23, 2012 9:41:19 AM

oh I must have deleted it.. I did have one there. Ill edit the post above. Thanks
a b B Homebuilt system
August 23, 2012 10:08:51 AM

^get the corsair force gt instead as your ssd. It's more reliable.
August 23, 2012 10:31:21 AM

For 10 bucks, I'll trust you..
a b B Homebuilt system
August 23, 2012 10:41:17 AM

Enjoy your new pc. Pick a best answer to close the thread.
August 23, 2012 10:58:57 AM

does higher speed memory increase speed of the computer significantly. Dont kill me but i think the difference of performance between 1333 mhz ram and a 1600 mhz ram is not quite significant. Also it get quite hot too. and overclocking ram is also not worth trying. And i have seen many motherboards that do not want to run them well and sometimes they are unstable.And these rams has extra heat sinks etc that actually gets in the path. So although the price seems quite tempting to buy a more speedy ram i will suggest to buy a standard one.

You said about video editing for that Core i7 is a absolute choice as you said you want to game a little bit otherwise i would suggest a xeon.

For raw gpu power today if you want the latest technology ati is the only way. In the kepler series nvidia cut its raw power and turned it to gaming.I found it a bad move because a lot of people will not be agreed to buy a 4000 dollar quardro after all we are not pixar.LOL.Radeon cards balances between the two so you have to buy a radeon gpu for RENDERING for only encoding actually i7 is good enough because of its quick sync.For saving a little bit money you can also look for fermi cards as they are good in computing. However now its your choice how you want to go.

And radeon 7950 is a great choice as ati has released a new driver update that increases its speed even more. And i always suggest to buy a factory clocked gpu. The update is also on only the factory version.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/HD7950-GTX660_Ti-Radeo...

So if you are not buying the ghz edition of 7970 then stick to 7950. Do not buy the normal 7970 one.

And i really think you shoud buy a really good psu for the rig. This thing is really important as it can damage your entire rig.

SSD is good and it will surely increse our performance. I do not advice to buy anything below 64 gb. Casue then you will not actually be able to the full advantage. At 60+ gb by proper management you will easily able take that.

Happy buying and good luck
August 23, 2012 11:20:50 AM

Ok nibir, I see you seem to know your stuff, however I don't, hehe.
So what you're saying if I'm correct is:

Keep the i7?
Change my video card back to the Radeon 7950 or 7990 instead of the 660ti?
I guess your saying ABS is not a good PSU brand?
My SSD of choice was not to bad?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 23, 2012 11:46:03 AM

^That's what he's saying
However, the ABS will give you flawless 800W which is plenty.It only fails at full load (1100W).
Cuda cores will serve you better than raw power from a radeon. It is true 5xx series cards render better,but they have obscene power requirements. A gtx 670 is more powerful than a 7950 in everything. If you're changing your card get a gtx 670
August 23, 2012 3:55:43 PM

liambbarr if i say anything about nvidia and ati, it will start a flame. I do not want to do that so i will send you a private massage with my suggestion and links about ati and nvidia,then you can make your own choice. Also please start two new thread in these two place
for power supply http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum-28-175.html
for graphics card http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/forum-33-208.html

it is because some of the very experienced members only view the threads they are interested so you will get better suggestion about specific products there.Ask about the gtx670 vs hd7950 in raw power and also about the ABS power supply unit. do not just copy paste the thread here make it specific to the topic.


And yes keep the i7
the cooler you are buying it is reputed to not fit in small cases so i am thinking if it will fit in your case so better check that you can ask that question in a new thread in you power supply thread also view these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and see the videos of all three.
about SSD i am not quite sure cause to me ocz,corsair or intel seems almost the same. i suggested that do not buy anything under 60 gb the more you buy the better.
here is a list of tomshardware that is a month old so much has changed since then
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/buy-ssd-recommendat...
new list will be within some days so you should wait to see the list before you buy.

And do not hurry buying take a little time and read the articles in tomshardware and you will be satisfied , i took about three month to make my first build and when it worked like a charm it felt very good.
a b B Homebuilt system
August 23, 2012 5:54:32 PM

^The rosewill Thor is a full tower and a roomy one. The cooler will fit.
OCZ vertex plus have terrible drivers. 120gb is enough for his needs. But yeah,bigger is always better,but is it necessary?
August 23, 2012 6:34:42 PM

You know that card is actually very good. I am buying it in a couple of days. You can run 3 monitors and run Crysis 2 on good looking settings.

Ivy bridge is perfect if you ask me. That's my choice CPU as well. You will be good for the future.

The CPU cooler is good. Even if the stock is okay if you are not overclocking. I recommend getting this things:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also some extra case fans to keep the air going would be great. I think the case is good, but since that Saphire is non-reference, I would get more air going in your case. definitely purchase an SSD when you can and make sure is quality if you plan booting from it. They make quite the difference

Nice build! :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
August 24, 2012 2:40:04 AM

^ Cooler comes with paste.
Save the 5 bucks and earth yourself with a gas pipe going underground from the house. Then all you need is to touch the metal of the case before installing something. Easy.
August 24, 2012 1:06:23 PM

It's taken a while, but I think this is successful :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Corsair Force Series GT 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.00 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1325.78
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-24 09:06 EDT-0400)
August 24, 2012 6:04:42 PM

allanitomwesh said:
^ Cooler comes with paste.
Save the 5 bucks and earth yourself with a gas pipe going underground from the house. Then all you need is to touch the metal of the case before installing something. Easy.



He said "willing to go to $1200 if you convince me" So I don't think he's really trying to safe money everywhere.

A strap is mandatory in many workshops and I have seen people electrocuted for not wearing one. Not to mention the cost of the items they toasted in the process.

There is a reason why I recommended that gel, because it is better than the stock one. They don't make gels just for fun, they have better performance because they are made differently :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
August 24, 2012 7:25:52 PM

^the evo 212 comes with Arctic Cooling Silver 5 rebadged. You're just telling him to buy another pack.
People get zapped for not disconnecting the mains.
Static is the least likely to kill a pc,you're more likely to have a rat chew wires in your parts. But then, paranoia is good.
August 25, 2012 12:17:29 AM

I think there will have to be some sacrifices made in this build.. butlets wait and see..
a b B Homebuilt system
August 25, 2012 6:20:22 AM

^q)Quickest way to price cut would be to remove the overclocking and Sli,and downgrade to a gtx 570. Use my case recommendation.Also,get win 7 home premium and upgrade to 8 pro in October.
October 25, 2012 9:49:45 AM

liambbarr said:
Hi Guys,
So this'll be first ever pc build. So I'm just after some advice on the parts selected. I really don't want to spend over $1000 but maybe willing to go to $1200 if you convince me :p 

I have the basic items (monitor/keyboard/mouse/etc) I also have a HDD which I would like to keep, but I read somewhere for 16gb of Ram you need to upgrade to Windows 7 Pro. If thats the case.. I'll add an SSD (Boot drive) and Windows 7 Pro (Theres a few bob!)

But feel free to change anything around.


Case/Power Supply: ABS Majesty series MJ1100-M and Rosewill THOR V2 Gaming ATX Full Tower Computer Case Package $204.98

Mobo: ASRock Z77 Pro4 $109.99

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz $339.99 Is Ivy Bridge overkill?

CPU Cooler (For minor overclock): COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 $34.99 (P.S: I don't have thermal paste, but I believe some is included)

Memory: CORSAIR XMS 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 $84.99 Sure it's probably overkill, but Ram's not really that expensive.

GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit $249.99 I'm unsure of this graphics card, I can't seem to find one that has 2xHDMI Outputs :/ 


I'm sure you guys are thinking "Hahaha, what an amateur" And I would have to agree.

cmon man, everyone has their first time, :) 

so, about your build.

this is already a good build imo.

and you will be getting the AMD HD 7950.(your last post)

it's good. you are going to have a nice and powerful pc.
November 3, 2012 8:41:18 AM

1depp1 said:
cmon man, everyone has their first time, :) 

so, about your build.

this is already a good build imo.

and you will be getting the AMD HD 7950.(your last post)

it's good. you are going to have a nice and powerful pc.


There have been some changes since that post.. Updates here:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($26.22 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($142.86 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($95.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($357.91 @ CompUSA)
Power Supply: Cooler Master GX 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (64-bit) ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1317.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

**IGNORE PRICES THOUGH, AS I HAVE TO BUY THROUGH PC Case Gear BEING IN AUSTRALIA
November 17, 2012 4:54:26 AM

Anyone? :/ 
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