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June 24, 2005 12:49:25 AM

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I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to use it
for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It is Generic
Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5" floppies and in DOS
(not a DOS window either). I have an old PII running W98SE on a 6GB HDD, so
I have a "real" DOS environment to load this thing in.
The problem is that when I go to load the prog it checks for hard drive
space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires 550,000 bytes to load and you
only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available on your hard drive. Please delete
some files to make room...." . Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an
impossibility to this dinosaur.
Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
Anonymous
June 24, 2005 7:46:48 AM

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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:49:25 -0400, "BP" <replytoall@only.net> wrote:

>I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to use it
>for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It is Generic
>Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5" floppies and in DOS
>(not a DOS window either). I have an old PII running W98SE on a 6GB HDD, so
>I have a "real" DOS environment to load this thing in.
>The problem is that when I go to load the prog it checks for hard drive
>space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires 550,000 bytes to load and you
>only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available on your hard drive. Please delete
>some files to make room...." . Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an
>impossibility to this dinosaur.
>Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
>

I would just install an old hard drive. Have you got any lying around?
I always have a few 120 MB drives and also a P75 just for those
programs which cycle through all their instructions in a nanosecond
because they were designed for a 25 MHz computer.


---Atreju---
Anonymous
June 24, 2005 11:39:47 AM

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"BP" <replytoall@only.net> wrote in
news:IbmdnSDPn6oLxSbfRVn-pA@conversent.net:

> I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to
> use it for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It
> is Generic Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5"
> floppies and in DOS (not a DOS window either). I have an old PII
> running W98SE on a 6GB HDD, so I have a "real" DOS environment to load
> this thing in. The problem is that when I go to load the prog it
> checks for hard drive space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires
> 550,000 bytes to load and you only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available
> on your hard drive. Please delete some files to make room...." .
> Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an impossibility to this dinosaur.
> Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
>
>

Create a ramdrive.
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June 24, 2005 12:30:28 PM

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I do have a 120 and a 540 up in the attic. That would work. Thanks.

"Atreju" <someone@who.hates.junkmail> wrote in message
news:if0nb19jri9t688vtukbte5etfeagia51c@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:49:25 -0400, "BP" <replytoall@only.net> wrote:
>
>>I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to use
>>it
>>for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It is Generic
>>Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5" floppies and in
>>DOS
>>(not a DOS window either). I have an old PII running W98SE on a 6GB HDD,
>>so
>>I have a "real" DOS environment to load this thing in.
>>The problem is that when I go to load the prog it checks for hard drive
>>space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires 550,000 bytes to load and you
>>only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available on your hard drive. Please delete
>>some files to make room...." . Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an
>>impossibility to this dinosaur.
>>Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
>>
>
> I would just install an old hard drive. Have you got any lying around?
> I always have a few 120 MB drives and also a P75 just for those
> programs which cycle through all their instructions in a nanosecond
> because they were designed for a 25 MHz computer.
>
>
> ---Atreju---
Anonymous
June 24, 2005 3:03:22 PM

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Can you install to floppy. In real dos A: and B: are different floppies logically so Dos will prompt you for A and B disks if you only have 1 floppy drive.

a:\>install B:

<will read A: then prompt>

Insert Disk B:
B:\>

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"BP" <replytoall@only.net> wrote in message news:IbmdnSDPn6oLxSbfRVn-pA@conversent.net...
>I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to use it
> for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It is Generic
> Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5" floppies and in DOS
> (not a DOS window either). I have an old PII running W98SE on a 6GB HDD, so
> I have a "real" DOS environment to load this thing in.
> The problem is that when I go to load the prog it checks for hard drive
> space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires 550,000 bytes to load and you
> only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available on your hard drive. Please delete
> some files to make room...." . Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an
> impossibility to this dinosaur.
> Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
>
>
June 24, 2005 11:17:39 PM

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Ingeborg <a@b.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns967F625104558abinvalid@216.168.3.44...
> "BP" <replytoall@only.net> wrote in
> news:IbmdnSDPn6oLxSbfRVn-pA@conversent.net:
>
> > I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to
> > use it for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It
> > is Generic Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5"
> > floppies and in DOS (not a DOS window either). I have an old PII
> > running W98SE on a 6GB HDD, so I have a "real" DOS environment to load
> > this thing in. The problem is that when I go to load the prog it
> > checks for hard drive space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires
> > 550,000 bytes to load and you only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available
> > on your hard drive. Please delete some files to make room...." .
> > Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an impossibility to this dinosaur.
> > Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
> >
> >
>
> Create a ramdrive.

Good idea!

xmsdsk.exe
Anonymous
June 25, 2005 4:00:07 AM

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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:49:25 -0400, "BP"
<replytoall@only.net> wrote:

>I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to use it
>for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It is Generic
>Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5" floppies and in DOS
>(not a DOS window either). I have an old PII running W98SE on a 6GB HDD, so
>I have a "real" DOS environment to load this thing in.
>The problem is that when I go to load the prog it checks for hard drive
>space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires 550,000 bytes to load and you
>only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available on your hard drive. Please delete
>some files to make room...." . Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an
>impossibility to this dinosaur.
>Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
>
>


Are you installing to the default directory, c:\CADD6, or
whatever it wants?

I don't have a 6.0 to check but I just sucessfully installed
Generic CADD 5.0 on Windows 98SE (Ver 4.10.222). The
computer has 3G space on a 5G drive and it installed and
runs in c:\CADD5. It didn't say if it was checking HD size.

Tom Debski
June 25, 2005 12:10:21 PM

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"Sparerep" <sparerepspam@notyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:42bc9d41.12919347@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:49:25 -0400, "BP"
> <replytoall@only.net> wrote:
>
>>I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to use
>>it
>>for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It is Generic
>>Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5" floppies and in
>>DOS
>>(not a DOS window either). I have an old PII running W98SE on a 6GB HDD,
>>so
>>I have a "real" DOS environment to load this thing in.
>>The problem is that when I go to load the prog it checks for hard drive
>>space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires 550,000 bytes to load and you
>>only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available on your hard drive. Please delete
>>some files to make room...." . Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an
>>impossibility to this dinosaur.
>>Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
>>
>>
>
>
> Are you installing to the default directory, c:\CADD6, or
> whatever it wants?
>
> I don't have a 6.0 to check but I just sucessfully installed
> Generic CADD 5.0 on Windows 98SE (Ver 4.10.222). The
> computer has 3G space on a 5G drive and it installed and
> runs in c:\CADD5. It didn't say if it was checking HD size.
>
> Tom Debski

Can't explain it. Maybe v5 is not v6. Maybe your computer's or OS's config
is different than mine.
Anonymous
June 27, 2005 9:24:03 PM

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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 08:10:21 -0400, "BP" <replytoall@only.net> wrote:

>
>"Sparerep" <sparerepspam@notyahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:42bc9d41.12919347@news.la.sbcglobal.net...
>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:49:25 -0400, "BP"
>> <replytoall@only.net> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to use
>>>it
>>>for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It is Generic
>>>Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5" floppies and in
>>>DOS
>>>(not a DOS window either). I have an old PII running W98SE on a 6GB HDD,
>>>so
>>>I have a "real" DOS environment to load this thing in.
>>>The problem is that when I go to load the prog it checks for hard drive
>>>space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires 550,000 bytes to load and you
>>>only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available on your hard drive. Please delete
>>>some files to make room...." . Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an
>>>impossibility to this dinosaur.
>>>Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Are you installing to the default directory, c:\CADD6, or
>> whatever it wants?
>>
>> I don't have a 6.0 to check but I just sucessfully installed
>> Generic CADD 5.0 on Windows 98SE (Ver 4.10.222). The
>> computer has 3G space on a 5G drive and it installed and
>> runs in c:\CADD5. It didn't say if it was checking HD size.
>>
>> Tom Debski
>
>Can't explain it. Maybe v5 is not v6. Maybe your computer's or OS's config
>is different than mine.
>

It wouldn't be the first time an older version of a program was less
fussy about its install environment than a newer version! In the days
of the dinosaurs, many programs didn't check the install environment
at all - they just crashed spectacularly if you didn't have what they
needed!!

Please respond to the Newsgroup, so that others may benefit from the exchange.
Peter R. Fletcher

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Anonymous
August 5, 2005 5:55:34 PM

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"BP" <replytoall@only.net> wrote in message
news:IbmdnSDPn6oLxSbfRVn-pA@conversent.net...
>I have a need to use an old CADD program that I have (I only need to use it
>for a short time to convert some files to AutoCadd format). It is Generic
>Cadd 6.0 from the middle ages (1994). It loads from 3.5" floppies and in
>DOS (not a DOS window either). I have an old PII running W98SE on a 6GB
>HDD, so I have a "real" DOS environment to load this thing in.
> The problem is that when I go to load the prog it checks for hard drive
> space and reports: "Generic Cadd 6 requires 550,000 bytes to load and you
> only have 3,400,000,000 bytes available on your hard drive. Please delete
> some files to make room...." . Obviously 3 billion Kbytes is an
> impossibility to this dinosaur.
> Anyone know of a trick I can use to get this thing to load?
>

You need to give it a smaller space. Either fill up the drive with something
or shrink the partition or create a small partition for it. or go find a
little hard drive. Or...sometimes it's just a matter of the program seeing
the "0,000,000" as the available space because it doesn't understand
anything larger. So if you add something to the drive so that the remaining
space is 3, 399,999.999, the program will actually see the "9,999,999" and
think there's sufficient space.
!