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Upgrade graphics card of a very old P4 machine

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July 3, 2012 11:22:06 PM

Hi,

This might be funny but I wan't to try this. I have a pentium 4 3.0GHz machine with a radeon x1950 pro on it. I have not used it for over 3 years, I have been busy and used the laptop. I am not a big gamer, I only play RTS games like Company of Heroes and Microsoft Flight Simulator X.

I remember I couldn't set the graphics to high on the x1950 pro, it lagged a lot. At that time 8800gtx was the top card which supposedly could be used for highest graphics settings for CoH. I am not bothered about newer games and just want to play Company of Heroes and Flight Simulator X again.

So I can get a cheap used 8800gtx, 9800 gtx, gtx 260 or HD 4870 - all fairly old now and not much difference in price between them. I know my P4 CPU will bottleneck probably all of the cards but it still should be much better than the x1950 pro. I am thinking about getting either the gtx 260 or HD 4870 because they are comparatively newer and probably be in fresher condition as I will get a used one.

So which card should I get? Thank for any help :) 

I will be using Windows XP as the PC have only 1GB RAM. The PSU should not be any problem as I have a Thermaltake ToughPower 750W.
a b U Graphics card
July 3, 2012 11:36:16 PM

It would be a waste because of your CPU. I have a system with a Pentium 4 540J @ 3.6GHz and even that CPU bottlenecks the overclocked GeForce 7900 GS it runs with. With that said your CPU is bottlenecking your X1950 Pro, getting a new card would make things no better.

F.Y.I. The GeForce 7900 GS is weaker than the X1950 Pro.
July 3, 2012 11:42:19 PM

You possibly are right. I just wanted to give it a go because not all games are CPU intensive. Thanks for the reply.
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a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 12:01:18 AM

Is your Pentium 4 a Socket 478 or Socket 775?
a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 12:55:03 AM

Bummer, none of the Core 2 Duo CPUs are supported.
a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 1:31:02 AM

Gamespot lists the following:

Recommended System Requirements
System:3.6 GHz CPU or equivalent
RAM:2048 MB
Video Memory:512 MB
Hard Drive Space:14000 MB

So upgrading from 1GB to 2GB might do the trick. You got a pair of 512MB or one 1GB?
July 4, 2012 1:55:47 AM

bkoop said:
Gamespot lists the following:

Recommended System Requirements
System:3.6 GHz CPU or equivalent
RAM:2048 MB
Video Memory:512 0
Hard Drive Space:14000 MB

So upgrading from 1GB to 2GB might do the trick. You got a pair of 512MB or one 1GB?


I got a pair of 512MB. Nothing going right lol. But possibly can get a pair of 1GB very cheap. The mobo supports both DDR and DDR2 RAM but not at the same time.

Now I am thinking of giving it a go with 9800GTX / 8800GTX which goes about £35 on ebay, so worth a try. GTX 260 / HD 4870 are about £55-£60 so it seems there is no point getting them.

On the x1950pro I used to get about 40 fps at Company of Heroes(medium graphics settings, no AA). But sometimes when there was a large battle it became 10-11 fps, even halting for a second(the sound also) possibly because of the CPU.
a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 2:04:31 AM

The X1950 Pro comes in both a 256MB version and a 512MB version, which one you got?
July 4, 2012 2:08:13 AM

bkoop said:
The X1950 Pro comes in both a 256MB version and a 512MB version, which one you got?

256MB Sapphire. it has a known overheating issue, everyone has the problem.
July 4, 2012 2:16:16 AM

bkoop said:
The RAM and the video card would give your CPU a fighting chance.

I use Tom's Hardware Graphics Card Hierarchy Chart to make sure I get an upgrade.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

I also think so. It should give me the high graphics setting if not more fps! I will give it a go. Thanks.
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