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July 4, 2012 11:25:59 AM

:hello:  So my MSI R6870 Hawk is about 11 months old now but I bought Battlefield 3 a week ago and I have endless issues with the graphics.

Here are some links for my ingame videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nSzolIS8VA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccE9bDJnfpQ

I'm seeing Spikes all over the place. :cry: 
I posted on BF3 Forums about the issue and they all said that it's a overclocking issue
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2...
But I coudn't resolve the problem, so I'm probably going to sell my card and buy a new one that is a bit of a upgrade.

I'm looking at either the NVidia GIGABYTE GV-N570OC-13I or the AMD ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5.

I have found a website that has pretty much every single card bench marked.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
And it seems that the 570 is much better but also note that it's a tad more expensive and I'm on a extremely tight budget.

I have been a supporter or the ATI Series for a while now but it might be time to move over to NVidia and give them a shot.

Any help regarding my R6870 Hawk will help or any advice for the new cards will be very appreciated.

Peace out! :bounce: 

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July 4, 2012 11:26:58 AM

It seems that the links are not working and I am very sorry about that :( 
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a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 11:56:53 AM

The GTTX 570 would be the faster of the two, all comes down on how much you wanna pay for a few extra fps between them

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-radeon-hd-7850-power-...

I personally would get the HD 7850 less power consumed and can be overclocked significantly (if needed) in the future
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a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 12:34:55 PM

Does any other game show the same problem as this?
Which drivers are you using?
You're not getting these spikes/something of the same type in the desktop are you?

Get the HD 7850. It doesn't seem to be that lagging behind.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...

Oh, and to get the links working, just delete the   " target="_blank"> parts, and leave the links pasted as it is. :) 
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a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 2:02:23 PM

Like they said, the HD 7850 is a bit slower than the GTX 570 but actually becomes faster when they are both overclocked.The HD 7850 also consumes less power.
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July 4, 2012 3:13:29 PM

Fixed the Links, thanks for that one :) 

I have used a lot of different drivers on the graphics card, downloaded every driver from the BF3 Driver release and the all do the same thing.

And it's only BF3 that has that issue, all my other games are working perfectly.
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a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 4:16:02 PM

Does BF3 show the same problems during single player too?
I don't think it's hardware related in any sort of manner, so I can't guarantee the problem would go away if you buy new GPU.
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a c 99 U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 5:15:30 PM

At stock, the GTX 570 is stronger. When you overclock the 7850 it will be around the same performance as the GTX 570.

Have you updated your driver? To the new 12.6 (not BETA)
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a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 5:36:18 PM

zondorf said:
:hello:  So my MSI R6870 Hawk is about 11 months old now but I bought Battlefield 3 a week ago and I have endless issues with the graphics.

Here are some links for my ingame videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nSzolIS8VA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccE9bDJnfpQ

I'm seeing Spikes all over the place. :cry: 
I posted on BF3 Forums about the issue and they all said that it's a overclocking issue
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2...
But I coudn't resolve the problem, so I'm probably going to sell my card and buy a new one that is a bit of a upgrade.

I'm looking at either the NVidia GIGABYTE GV-N570OC-13I or the AMD ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5.

I have found a website that has pretty much every single card bench marked.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
And it seems that the 570 is much better but also note that it's a tad more expensive and I'm on a extremely tight budget.

I have been a supporter or the ATI Series for a while now but it might be time to move over to NVidia and give them a shot.

Any help regarding my R6870 Hawk will help or any advice for the new cards will be very appreciated.

Peace out! :bounce: 


Get a Gtx 480 its as good as a 570, A lot cheaper, has more Vram, and can be overclocked to surpass a gtx 580!! :sol: 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $209!!
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July 4, 2012 5:45:03 PM

Yes single player has the exact same problem, it must be the graphics card because when I bought the game I had a ASUS P5N-D Motherboard, E8500 Core 2 Duo Processor, 4gb Memory. And on that same setup I had issues so it's obviously not graphics card (I stand to be corrected though.

Also yes I have the newest AMD Drivers installed and it's not the BETA Version.

I would like to get a 480 but I am limited to where I can import from since I don't have a proper debit or credit card.
I'm from South Africa.
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July 4, 2012 6:01:48 PM

Oh and I run a Raidmax RX530 PSU, you guys think maybe it's the PSU that might not give enough juice?

Also note that I have increased the voltage on the card and I got no improvement
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a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 6:11:36 PM

zondorf said:
Oh and I run a Raidmax RX530 PSU, you guys think maybe it's the PSU that might not give enough juice?

Also note that I have increased the voltage on the card and I got no improvement


Increasing voltage is only good if you want to overclock the card more without any system crashes, freezes.

I think You should buy a good brand 700 watt psu since you would be saving money by buying a gtx 480.

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a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 8:39:21 PM

The GTX 480 is great but it gets really hot and really loud.If those two factors dont matter to him then go ahead and buy a GTX 480.But if they do... stick to the other two.
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a b U Graphics card
July 4, 2012 9:08:16 PM

Kamen_BG said:
The GTX 480 is great but it gets really hot and really loud.If those two factors dont matter to him then go ahead and buy a GTX 480.But if they do... stick to the other two.


He can buy a custom cooler for the 480, this way it doesn't get as hot!
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a c 99 U Graphics card
July 5, 2012 2:30:14 AM

The 7850 is the better choice. You will just bottleneck with the 480.
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July 5, 2012 7:22:23 AM

Well I would love to get my hands on a 480 but I do have a issue with heat and noise.
So I think I'll get a 7850.
Can anyone recommend a specific 7850?

And thanks to everyone that gave me advice, I really do appreciate it a lot :)  :bounce: 
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a c 291 U Graphics card
July 5, 2012 9:37:55 AM

Guys stop spreading misinformation that GTX 480 gets hot and is very loud. It's not. Where do you get that idea from? Of course, it's hotter than HD 7850, but it doesn't mean you will have any overheating issues or anything like that.
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a b U Graphics card
July 5, 2012 11:17:32 AM

zondorf said:
Well I would love to get my hands on a 480 but I do have a issue with heat and noise.
So I think I'll get a 7850.
Can anyone recommend a specific 7850?

And thanks to everyone that gave me advice, I really do appreciate it a lot :)  :bounce: 

If you've got Sapphire, MSi or XFX, ASUS, they'll be the first ones on my list.
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July 11, 2012 7:14:50 AM

Hey guys, just a quick update.

Sorry I haven't been posting but it's been crazy at home and work.

I actually resolved my MSI R6870 Hawk Graphics issues by increasing the voltage from 1174 to 1280.

I'm not exactly sure what that means but it helped a lot, I do still see a spike every 20-30 secs but you can barely notice it unless you're actually focusing on it.

Does it mean that I clocked from 1.17 to 1.28v?

Someone told me to clock it with .16 and it will resolve my issues which means that I have to clock it to 1.33 (1330)? (Not sure if it's safe)

Don't know if that's correct but if it is then I guess it will resolve ALL my problems! :bounce: 
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July 12, 2012 6:51:40 AM

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a c 271 U Graphics card
July 12, 2012 9:00:31 AM

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