A64 wasted by P4EE, what's next?

coolsquirtle · Sep 23, 2003

AMD failed once again. Unless they pump more cache into the A64s the prescotts will kill it AGAIN. What do u guys think?

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spud · Sep 23, 2003

Hug??? I just had oral sex with mine!!!

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speeduk · Sep 23, 2003

So a 3.6ghz chip beats a 2.2ghz chip.

I've seen a few reviews from good sites like hexus and a few others. 1 site has the 3200 and the FX neck and neck. Another has the FX getting 20k with a 9800pro and toms has the 3200 a lot slower than the Fx. I can't seem to make a good conclusion based on the inconsistencies of all the reviews out atm...

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speeduk · Sep 23, 2003

But I am a lot more happy about getting this 2500 barton. 18.5k doesn't seem so bad now!

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skicrazy99 · Sep 23, 2003

Do you think that the new P4EE will be useable in the Intel D875PBZ that is commonly used for P4 Prescotts now? I have that motherboard, and would most definitely purchase the new P4EE if it will work in my mobo.

coolsquirtle · Sep 23, 2003

the differenct it's not huge. face it, Hammer didn't eat P4 for dinner, but i think if AMD pumps more cache into hammer, it'll kill

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TTZX · Sep 24, 2003

So a 3.6ghz chip beats a 2.2ghz chip.

What are you, 9 years old?

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pIII_Man · Sep 24, 2003

the ee should be compatable with any mobo supporting 200 (800mhz qdr) fsb.

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Crashman · Sep 24, 2003

I think the FX version was barely beaten here, and barely won elsewhere. And that the A64-3200+ should be priced below the standard P4 3.2C if AMD wants market share.

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knewt · Sep 24, 2003

And that the A64-3200+ should be priced below the standard P4 3.2C if AMD wants market share.

A64-FX will be priced at $733 in 1000 unit quantities. Not cheap where I come from. A64 3200+ will be a little more reasonable at $417, but there goes any performance advantage which might be seen with the FX.

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speeduk · Sep 24, 2003

So based on my comment about a 3.6ghz chip beating a 2.2ghz chip (intented to get a point across), I am now a 9 year old. Interesting.....

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Guest · Sep 24, 2003

I think AMD has better minds behind the design of their processors.

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kinney · Sep 24, 2003

Whats next?
The website you pull up for me that has a P4EE in stock.
After a few months and you do that (if ever because you might as well wait for prescott), then get me this imaginary 3.6ghz and 3.4ghz version.

I guess I just dont understand the logic to put oc'd, unreleased processors in the review.
This review is disqualified in my opinion for the attempt to mislead the reader who might not read the fine details. It might not fool anyone posting here, but it seems to serve no purpose other than to keep intel at the top of the charts everytime.

Why not put a A64 oc'd to 3.2ghz in the review then see whos on top?
It would be ridiculous to do so.

Though the 3.2EE is a valid and fair comparison, you have to keep in mind the price and mainly, availability.
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coolsquirtle · Sep 24, 2003

i want a P4 EE~~~

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panabob · Sep 24, 2003

Kinney makes a good point IMO. Its really biased by THG to put an unrealeased,if ever released, P4 3.6 EE in ALL the benchmarks, and not even OC the Athlon 64 FX, which I can buy from newegg right now, which so far is sitting on top of the 3Dmark2001 ORB. my 2 cents. its ok to be an Intel or AMD fanboy, everyone has the right to their own opinion,but it is NOT ok to publish such subjective reporting, to make Intel look better then AMD for no apparent reason, unless someone wants to explain to me otherwise.
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SJJM · Sep 24, 2003

They do have some insight on things that are coming out. And if they know that the ee are coming out soon, then they might want to let people know so that they can hold their hard earned money until that cpu comes(which happens to be better).

Remember that some people save money and then spend a lot on a computer so that they do not have to upgrade it for a long time. I feel that they are addressing these people by showing them what the near furture. I don't see what the problem is of having them put that in the review, I am it does say a64 vs the p4 ee. So what if they have cpu that is oc, they do not say anything on the pages about it. They did say that the a64 was not able to oc very much.

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SJJM · Sep 24, 2003

Your acting like a baby. Who cares if they put that in the A64 VS P4 EE REVIEW. The I see more people b!tching now then when they reveiw for the a64 a couple months back. Other sites do have reviews with the a64 oc and you know what the 2.4 a64 and the 3.4 p4 ee are neck and neck, what do you know. why are't people b!tching about that review. It is the first day this cpu came out, it is going to have some bugs to get out.

To end this. stop being babies and b!tching about how un far it is for them to put a 3.6 p4 ee in the review!!!!

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eden · Sep 24, 2003

Kinney did you even check out the FX-51 pricing? That is without counting the very expensive MAINBOARDS, very expensive ECC MEMORY.

Surprisingly AMD is no longer the value company and I cheer them for that in fact. Get 64-bit Windows advertised, and with such prices, you'll sell, because people believe, and don't know Intel.

So I am wondering now where your old logic that AMD offers good prices will be when AMD will likely continue this trend which is the only way to survive really.

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Crashman · Sep 24, 2003

I was looking for a little MORE savings on the A64-3200+, enough to justify the move to a new, unrefined platform.

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panabob · Sep 24, 2003

Next you can dip it in thermal grease and stick it where it doesn't belong! Or maybe you and Eden can have fun and do it to each other ; )

Do you guys really enjoy putting other people down because they are just like you, fanboys, except for the opposite company? If AMD wasn't around, Intel P4 prices would be pretty interesting to say the least. I doubt you would be even riding on an 800Mhz FSB. Same goes for all the quote on quote "nVidiots." Cant you all just mature a little bit?

Edited by panabob on 09/23/03 11:12 PM.

eden · Sep 24, 2003

Problem is also with the stability they reported.

I was happy however to see THG finally showing us the Heat Protection in action.

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eden · Sep 24, 2003

BTW that video rocked!

The music once more, is well done and used.
They definitely gave the video some nice depth.

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coolsquirtle · Sep 24, 2003

must watch video..... laptop too crappy...... computer busted.......

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Crashman · Sep 24, 2003

I don't think the "hardcore" sites even mention stability issues, I mean, look at how they used to praise VIA chipsets, back in the days when using one meant formatting your drive every 2weeks-2months!

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coolsquirtle · Sep 24, 2003

man i always thought Via were good......even though i dont like them -_- their new chipset seems to be kicking ass
but it seem to take nVidia twice to learn their lesson
NV3x was the first one
NV40 should do well
nForce was the first one
nForce 2 is la best
nforce 3 is the first one
nforce 4 will be la best?

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