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August 23, 2012 4:33:55 PM

Hi, I am looking to build a new PC in the next couple of weeks. I have use the new build template and here are the details. I have quite a few queries as you can see below and any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Approximate Purchase Date: this week

Budget Range: about 3500 SGD but flexible if necessary

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming/running math simulations/movies/music/internet
Should be able to play all current games.
Will also be used for running alot of math simulations like backtesting stock data.
Also for watching movies and listening to music and minor video editing.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes. Looking to get the DellTM UltraSharpTM U2713HM monitor.

Parts to Upgrade: New build

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I live in Singapore so here is the price list: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://resources.vr-...

Location: Singapore

Parts Preferences: No real preference but looking for something reliable enough to last me the next 4-5 years.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Not initially but likely only if games won't run on this config in the future.

Your Monitor Resolution: 2560x1440 WQHD resolution. Looking to get the DellTM UltraSharpTM U2713HM monitor.

Additional Comments: I would like a quiet PC.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: It's been a long time (6 years) since my last computer. It's great only for email/internet. As for gaming maybe solitaire.

Here is a list of part I have come up with after reading the forums and several sites on the net. The current "System Builder Marathon" seems to suggest that the performance per dollar for 2000$ computers is very poor compared to 1000$ so I prefer not to go overboard.

Price list of these components is all on one page here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://resources.vr-...
Prices are in SGD:
Processor: Intel Core i7-3770K 410$
Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (Z77) - 219$ or Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H (Z77) - 265$ or Asus P8Z77-V (Z77) - 289$
RAM: G-Skill RipJawZ 2133MHz CL9 16GB - 249$
SSD: OCZ 256GB Vertex 4 SATA 3 349$ OR Crucial 256G / 512G M4 SSD SATA3 - 313$ OR Intel 520 Series 240GB SATA3 - 358$
HDD: WD 2TB 64MB Caviar Black (5 Yrs) - 239$
PSU: CM Silent PRO Gold 600W (5Yrs)...169
GPU: Asus GTX670 DirectCu II 2GB DDR5 - 629$
Case:CM HAF RC-932 Advanced Black USB3.0 - 229$

1. I have picked the i7 3rd gen since it is the latest processor and unlocked.
2. 16GB of RAM since I run alot of programs simulatenously and do development as well which requires alot of in memory processing. If it turns out to be too excessive then I could portion a part of it as a ramdrive for temp files.
3. The PSU of 600W since the calculated value at http://www.coolermaster.outervision.com/index.jsp is about 400W for the above config and 530W in case I add another GTX670 GPU card.
4. UltraSharp U2713HM 27inch Widescreen Monitor - supposedly an update from U2711 which seems to have great editorial reviews but bad user reviews with regard to anti-glare coating and overheating. The new version is LED. No reviews as yet.

As for the brands and for the other components, they are picked based on forum postings and reviews elsewhere so please feel free to suggest alternatives limited to the pdf list at the link above or question existing choices.

Couple of other queries:
1. some mobo come with wifi and bluetooth. Would that help in anyway for syncing with my phone ?
2. How would I utilize the 2133MHz RAM or should I get 1600 instead ?
3. Do I need a CPU Cooler ?
4. what 's a good keyboard/mouse for gaming as well as for programming ?
5. What's a good speaker system ?

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August 23, 2012 4:46:40 PM

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1. I have picked the i7 3rd gen since it is the latest processor and unlocked.


For games you won't see the full benefit of the i7 - it's better to drop that to the i5 and put that difference in the GPU.

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2. 16GB of RAM since I run alot of programs simulatenously and do development as well which requires alot of in memory processing. If it turns out to be too excessive then I could portion a part of it as a ramdrive for temp files.


That's fine but 2133 is *WAY* overkill - most Z77 motherboards won't support speeds that high. You need 1600.

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3. The PSU of 600W since the calculated value at http://www.coolermaster.outervision.com/index.jsp is about 400W for the above config and 530W in case I add another GTX670 GPU card.


600W is about the sweet spot anymore but there's better PSUs you can get than what Cooler Master makes. The Corsair TX650 is one of the best on the market right now. Also anything from Seasonic as well.

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1. some mobo come with wifi and bluetooth. Would that help in anyway for syncing with my phone ?


Not really - I've found most bluetooth built in and USB modules to be quite useless for that sort of thing.

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2. How would I utilize the 2133MHz RAM or should I get 1600 instead ?


You wont. Most Z77 motherboards are rated for 1600MHz RAM and won't support any higher speeds unless you overclock - but overclocking your RAM can lead to serious system instability.

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3. Do I need a CPU Cooler ?


If you're going to overclock it's a necessity. If not then you don't need it, nor do you need the unlocked multiplier.

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SSD: OCZ 256GB Vertex 4 SATA 3 349$ OR Crucial 256G / 512G M4 SSD SATA3 - 313$ OR Intel 520 Series 240GB SATA3 - 358$


Go with the Crucial M4 - but anything over 128GB - the cost per GB right now isn't worth it, especially if you're using a 2TB hard drive along with it.
August 23, 2012 4:54:30 PM

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August 24, 2012 2:48:52 PM

thanks. Here is the updated list. Still need help with items with an asterisk.

pricelist: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://resources.vr-...

Processor: Intel Core i7-3770K 410$
*Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (Z77) - 219$ or Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H (Z77) - 265$ or Asus P8Z77-V (Z77) - 289$
RAM: G-Skill RipJawZ 1600MHz CL9 16GB - 155$
SSD: Crucial 128G M4 SSD SATA3 - 173$
*HDD: WD 2TB 64MB Caviar Black (5 Yrs) - 239$
PSU: Corsair TX650M 650W Bronze PSU (5 Yrs)...135$
*GPU: Asus GTX670 DirectCu II 2GB DDR5 - 629$
*Case:CM HAF RC-932 Advanced Black USB3.0 - 229$
August 24, 2012 5:09:10 PM

uncleTomsCabin said:
thanks. Here is the updated list. Still need help with items with an asterisk.

pricelist: https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://resources.vr-...

Processor: Intel Core i7-3770K 410$
*Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (Z77) - 219$ or Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H (Z77) - 265$ or Asus P8Z77-V (Z77) - 289$
RAM: G-Skill RipJawZ 1600MHz CL9 16GB - 155$
SSD: Crucial 128G M4 SSD SATA3 - 173$
*HDD: WD 2TB 64MB Caviar Black (5 Yrs) - 239$
PSU: Corsair TX650M 650W Bronze PSU (5 Yrs)...135$
*GPU: Asus GTX670 DirectCu II 2GB DDR5 - 629$
*Case:CM HAF RC-932 Advanced Black USB3.0 - 229$


GPU, HDD, and SSD all look good. For motherboard get the Gigabyte UD3H.

And then for case that's fine as well. But again for gaming you won't see the full benefits of the i7 or 16GB of RAM and they won't be used for several years.
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