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August 23, 2012 10:56:09 PM

Hello,
I'm looking to replace my hp pavil a1520 with a new gaming computer, however, I've never built my own computer before. I've been researching for parts and guides for building computers, but to be honest it seems pretty daunting. Yes, I am new but I am completely open to criticism and want only to learn more.

Ill be purchasing parts from now till December after doing some time researching and asking around.

I really want a computer that I wont have to replace for a couple of years. I'm even thinking of putting a substantial amount into this rig 2~3K.

It'll be used primarily for gaming. Others include watching movies, Photoshop and Painter, and surfing the web.

I will need a moniter, keyboard and mouse. I have set my sights on the i5 2500k for my cpu so could any suggestions revolve around that. I have looked around and been told that a good gpu would be either a gtx 690, or either two HD7970GHz in CF or two gtx 680s. I still need suggestions for the mobo, Ram, hdd, cooling unit and psu and a case.

I have been using Windows XP for quite some time now but I guess it's time to move on now. Windows Vista or 7 is what I'll be looking for.

I am new so any suggested websites for parts would be helpful. I can browse and see their selection on my own.

Southern California, Orange County, USA. There is a Fry's nearby but that is all I know.

I don't really have any preferences for brand types just as long as the parts themselves have good customer ratings and perform as they should. However, just for the gpu, I am leaning more for Nvida cards than any other brand.

I have never oc'd my old computer but I think I might try it with this one. I probably will sli in the near future.

Honestly, just suggest the best monitor and I will look at it myself and decide.(but most likely 1920x1200)

I would, in the end, like to be able to run most games on full settings without any stuttering. Also a quiet computer would be nice.

I need this rig to replace my ~10 year old computer.

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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2012 12:44:26 AM

for 500, id seriously doubt you can put a decent video card for gaming if you have a 200 dollar CPU
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2012 12:52:10 AM

If you can salvage your HDD and optical drive, you just saved $100. If you have a Microcenter nearby, this build will be more feasible.
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August 24, 2012 3:55:43 AM

TheBigTroll said:
for 500, id seriously doubt you can put a decent video card for gaming if you have a 200 dollar CPU

I'm sorry. I should have been more specific for the budget prices for certain parts. I am willing to put in quite a substantial amount of money into my graphics card, since that is, for me, the second most important component in my new rig.

I have looked around and been told that a good gpu would be either a gtx 690, or either two HD7970GHz in CF or two gtx 680s. I'm wondering if one of these combinations would be compatible with the i5.
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August 24, 2012 4:09:24 AM

obsama1 said:
If you can salvage your HDD and optical drive, you just saved $100. If you have a Microcenter nearby, this build will be more feasible.

Well here are the specs from my hp pavil a1520n. Could you tell me which other parts I could salvage. (These are pretty old stuff. Laugh if you want :D )
Asus A8N-LA Nagami2-GL8E Motherboard
250g SATA harddrive
1g DDR system memory
16x DL Lightscribe Drive
Integrated 10/100 Base-T networking interface
GeForce 6150 LE gpu
Athlon 64 X2 (T) 3800+ 2.0 GHz
Memory Card Reader
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2012 4:13:18 AM

Save the hard drive and optical drive.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2012 4:13:27 AM

Also, are you serious? A 690 and crossfire 7970's? A 690 alone is twice your budget. They're amazing for gaming, but you can get by with a 7770. Also, ANY GPU, Nvidia, AMD, doesn't matter, is compatible with the i5. I suggest you read the sticky and edit your post so we can help you better. I don't mean to sound rude, but it really helps.
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August 24, 2012 4:35:04 AM

obsama1 said:
Also, are you serious? A 690 and crossfire 7970's? A 690 alone is twice your budget. They're amazing for gaming, but you can get by with a 7770. Also, ANY GPU, Nvidia, AMD, doesn't matter, is compatible with the i5. I suggest you read the sticky and edit your post so we can help you better. I don't mean to sound rude, but it really helps.

Sorry. This is my first post in the "new build" section and i posted without reading the rules. I'll try editing my posts as much as I can.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2012 4:40:11 AM

It's OK. I didn't mean to sound rude!
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2012 12:26:48 PM

lol. your dvd drive better not be one of those proprietary things that only work in hp systems. if it uses ide cables, it doesnt work

as for the video card, you can get a gtx670 and it should be more than enough
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August 24, 2012 1:02:29 PM

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 )
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 )
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 )
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 )
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 )
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 )
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.36 )
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi Tower ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 )
Power Supply: $100 range
Optical Drive:$15 - $20 range
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.95 )
monitor: $200 range asus is pretty good
total: $1500 ish
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2012 1:11:01 PM

1: id get the gigabyte z77x-ud3h board instead. more features and a full size board
2: i rather get a seagate 1tb 64mb for the same price
3:id pay 10 more dollars and get a samsung 830 128gb SSD. its a lot faster
4: make sure that you get the 3 fan version
5:id pay 10 more dollars for the define r4. more silence
6: for the power supply, id get a xfx xxx 750w if you are going to do SLI in the future. they sell for 99 dollars
7: id either get a asus vs228h-p monitor for 136.40 at amazon or i get the pa238q for 229.99 after MIR at us.ncix.com. i have used both

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August 24, 2012 8:26:13 PM

TheBigTroll said:
lol. your dvd drive better not be one of those proprietary things that only work in hp systems. if it uses ide cables, it doesnt work

as for the video card, you can get a gtx670 and it should be more than enough

Haha, unfortunately it does use IDE cables, so I guess that option is out.
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August 24, 2012 8:31:02 PM

zulug said:
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 )
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 )
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 )
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 )
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 )
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 )
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.36 )
Case: Fractal Design Arc Midi Tower ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 )
Power Supply: $100 range
Optical Drive:$15 - $20 range
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.95 )
monitor: $200 range asus is pretty good
total: $1500 ish

Looks good. Would getting a geforce gtx 670 4gb a huge difference over the 2gb or no?
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August 24, 2012 8:32:40 PM

TheBigTroll said:
1: id get the gigabyte z77x-ud3h board instead. more features and a full size board
2: i rather get a seagate 1tb 64mb for the same price
3:id pay 10 more dollars and get a samsung 830 128gb SSD. its a lot faster
4: make sure that you get the 3 fan version
5:id pay 10 more dollars for the define r4. more silence
6: for the power supply, id get a xfx xxx 750w if you are going to do SLI in the future. they sell for 99 dollars
7: id either get a asus vs228h-p monitor for 136.40 at amazon or i get the pa238q for 229.99 after MIR at us.ncix.com. i have used both

Thanks for the advice. Which specific seagate should I get. Also, I know there is a price difference in the two, but which one do you feel had the better performance per dollar?
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August 24, 2012 11:31:38 PM

wgb_sangwoo said:
Looks good. Would getting a geforce gtx 670 4gb a huge difference over the 2gb or no?


4gb version is overkill save your money
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a b 4 Gaming
August 24, 2012 11:36:02 PM

If you're playing at 1080p, stick with the 2GB.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 25, 2012 12:48:11 AM

wgb_sangwoo said:
Thanks for the advice. Which specific seagate should I get. Also, I know there is a price difference in the two, but which one do you feel had the better performance per dollar?


yeah. you go out and look for the specs i stated. it has 1tb of storage and a 64mb cache. no other seagate that is 1tb has 64mb except the newer ones which i am suggesting

as for the video card, getting 4gb is useless unless you run more monitors
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August 25, 2012 8:14:36 AM

Is there a real need for me to invest a lot into a good sound card? I don't really know much about them and would like some suggestions for what to buy.
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August 25, 2012 8:16:26 AM

obsama1 said:
If you're playing at 1080p, stick with the 2GB.

Would i have to if I decide to go for a Asus PA238Q 23.0" Monitor?
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August 25, 2012 8:33:44 AM

So I'm just putting up all the parts that i think I'm going to get. Can I get the okay on the build?

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.98)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99)
Storage: Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($109.98)
Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($429.99)
Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($429.99)
Sound Card: ? (still confused about this)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower Cases ($105.45)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99)
Optical Drive: ? (got any suggestions)
Monitor Asus PA238Q 23.0" Monitor ($259.98)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.89)

Total: $2035 with the second gpu
$1605 without the second gpu

Still need optical drive and sound card recommendations.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 25, 2012 1:30:57 PM

the pa238q is a great monitor. if you think its too much, the vs228h-p monitor is also a great choice.

i personally would recommend the gigabyte 670 or the msi power edition 670. they have a slightly better cooling solution than asus

the constellation drive is a enterprise drive. its more reliable but i usually go with the regular barracuda

you dont really need a sound card. the onboard stuff is usually enough. try it out first. if it isnt good enough, then get something like a asus dx 7.1

for the optical drive, just get the cheapest regular 24x drives that you can find. nobody really uses them anymore

one video card is more than enough for current usage. no point of 2 right now
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a b 4 Gaming
August 25, 2012 6:56:20 PM

At 1080p, two cards is superflous. SLI and Crossfire give you microstutter and some games refuse to work. Get one card.
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August 25, 2012 9:53:37 PM

So with all the advice you guys have made, I have changed some parts for my build.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($149.98)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99)
Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.99)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($389.99)
Sound Card: (probably just won't get one)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower Cases ($105.45)
Power Supply: XFX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99)
Optical Drive:Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.99)
Monitor Asus PA238Q 23.0" Monitor ($259.98)
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($90.89)
Total Price: $1602.36
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a b 4 Gaming
August 25, 2012 11:01:07 PM

sounds good.
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August 26, 2012 12:21:53 AM

Best answer selected by WGB_Sangwoo.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 26, 2012 2:12:53 AM

If you want a 670, the one to get is the Asus. While many non-reference cards add an improved cooler, few have a factory heavily modified PCB, with an efficient VRM design to produce low temperatures, improved voltage regulation circuitry, much better Chil controller , specially binned chips and voltage control and monitoring support that you won't find on most other non-reference cards. Those are some of the reasons you'll see it get a 10.0 rating at techpowerup, something no other card has ever attained.


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10.0 Rating Asus 670 TOP
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670... buy it @tigerdirect http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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a b 4 Gaming
August 26, 2012 12:50:50 PM

the problem with the asus top editions is that they had a v-bios problem causing a lot of them to crash. asus had to update it and had to make a new batch. thats probably why they were very rare.

id get the msi version. more voltage control and a slightly better cooler (1-3c)
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a b 4 Gaming
August 26, 2012 6:21:01 PM

I would not get it from TD. Get it from Newegg or Amazon.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 26, 2012 7:25:35 PM

or just price match it a us.ncix.com but they dont have stock. hardly anyone does
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August 26, 2012 11:58:31 PM

I thought I had everything set but I guess there's still a discussion on what my gpu should be.

I've been doing some research on the 670's:

ASUS GeForce GTX 670 Direct CU II TOP 2 GB ($419)

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2 GB ($399)

MSI GTX 670 Power Edition Twin Frozr IV 2 GB ($430)

Gigabyte GTX 670 OC 2 GB ($399)

My top two choices as of now are is the ASUS and Gigabyte, with Gigabyte still my first choice. I do like the MSI, but I don't know if I'll buy a card worth 30 dollars more for the near same performance as the ASUS or GB, unless someone has a really good reason as to why the MSI is worth the extra money.

So my question is, which out of the three (ASUS, GB, MSI) should I get?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 26, 2012 11:59:17 PM

ASUS.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2012 1:17:58 AM

MSI. there is unlocked voltage and a better cooler (by 1-3c)
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August 27, 2012 2:05:14 AM

You guys are funny. Thanks for the all the help thus far. I think ill just post this up on the Graphic Cards portion of the forum.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2012 2:06:30 AM

You can't go wrong with either one. But yes, post it in the GPU subforum.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2012 5:18:43 AM

TheBigTroll said:
the problem with the asus top editions is that they had a v-bios problem causing a lot of them to crash. asus had to update it and had to make a new batch. thats probably why they were very rare.

id get the msi version. more voltage control and a slightly better cooler (1-3c)
Hmmm... i wasn't aware of that but pretty much every professional review/ and benchmarks included lead me to believe the Asus Top is indeed the top dog of the 670's though i certainly can't say i know for a fact but bottom line... The MSI 670 PE,Asus Top,EVGA FTW are all beasts IMHO! Pretty much sums it up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djj7jW6ny2M&feature=rela... :lol:  ;) 
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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2012 12:36:48 PM

id take the EVGA out. its good for cramped or low airflow cases but otherwise, id get a open cooler
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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2012 1:52:36 PM

Lol... actually you pretty much nailed why i didn't leave it out for cramped or low airflow cases was my main reason though there were a few other reasons for some reason quite a bit of people actually prefer the reference cards and the EVGA name also because of their top notch customer service also have you see benchmarks it almost on par with MSI PE oc wise i can't call it it is what it is has to be running way hotter and louder though lol
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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2012 3:41:45 PM

EVGA is like a pc company similar to apple (except much nicer to customers, doesnt sue their supplier, and prices some of their stuff reasonably). everyone buys it mostly for the name
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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2012 3:47:53 PM

They just need better coolers honestly. Their stuff isn't bad. But, their mobo's are different. Their Z77 FTW is plagued with BIOS problems.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2012 3:53:58 PM

who buys EVGA motherboards when asus has their awesome ROG extreme boards for OC and their formula boards for very high end gaming?

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a b 4 Gaming
August 27, 2012 4:15:08 PM

Exactly.
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