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August 23, 2012 6:11:24 PM

Dear all
i am new to this community
i am so confused about building a new CPU
my budget is $500
it will be purely used for gaming
please guide me to build such a pc
i have hd ready lcd BENQ and rest all.
all i need is a CPU.


i am a total noob in hardware

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August 23, 2012 6:16:05 PM

building a cpu? Do you mean building a desktop computer and you have the monitor/keyboard/mouse?
August 23, 2012 6:27:42 PM
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August 23, 2012 6:30:20 PM

do you want new CPU , or you want to build a new desktop computer
August 23, 2012 6:30:39 PM
August 23, 2012 6:38:42 PM

killerhurtalot said:
building a cpu? Do you mean building a desktop computer and you have the monitor/keyboard/mouse?


yes.
st all i ahve.
just need to build a CPU

please help
August 23, 2012 6:39:46 PM

oxford373 said:
are you serious, if OP dont have OS, OP can borrow it from his friend .


Your advocating Piracy which is not allowed here.

Also are you serious with this?

Quote:
i suggest these PC components
intel G630 for 65$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819116406
p67 for 72$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 813157265R
2x2GB 1333 for 23$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820139659
AMD 7850 for 210$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814161405
1TB seagate for 90$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148840
case for 40$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811147023
corsair 500w for 60$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139027


How bout a smaller HD, cheaper mobo and then a less sh*t CPU

August 23, 2012 6:44:38 PM



i have hdd,sound system too.
i mainly need processor,motherboard,ram,cooling system and anything you suggest for high performance gaming
August 23, 2012 6:48:22 PM

i have windows xp original
August 23, 2012 6:52:48 PM

oxford373 said:
borrowing windows original copy from a friend is piracy???
i install windows from the same original copy for my tow desktops and one laptop is this illegal


And where do you get the valid key for that windows?

You advocated piracy and are now trying to be obtuse by blurring the issue of borrowing a disk and using a legit key or borrowing a disk and cracking.
August 23, 2012 7:05:21 PM

core 13 2100 120$
Asrock H61 60$
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) 28$
1TB seagate for 90$
case for 40$
corsair 500w for 60$
GeForce GTX 560 129
total 467$ all in newegg
dan di kaskus lebih komplit :D 
August 23, 2012 7:05:40 PM

Short on time but some of the guides in my signature may help your confusions about parts.
August 23, 2012 7:07:35 PM

oxford373 said:
i bought key for each PC


So if this is what you meant the OP should do why did you ridicule the guy that said an OS needs to be in the budget?

Here this just for you awarded for advocating THEFT and then backing out so clumsily Kim Jong Il would have been proud


August 23, 2012 7:20:11 PM

what is that ddr5 and ddr3 and pci e2 and pci e3
which is better
August 23, 2012 7:36:32 PM

i want to play all latest games mainly racing genre and fps likw modern warfare 3 ,BF3 and games like assassins revelations on high grafix
August 23, 2012 7:55:44 PM

CPU: AMD Phenom II 965 BE $110
Mobo: Asus M5A78-M LX Plus Mobo $60
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB $85
Graphics Card: Radeon 6870 $160 After Rebate
RAM: 1x 4GB Corsair Vengeance $25
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 $45
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX430 $35 After Rebate

20 Bucks over your budget, a very nice build though. I just wish the hard drive didn't cost so darn much. Hard drive prices are killing budget PCs these days...

If you're an intel fanboy the 965 and the asus mobo could be swapped out for an i3 and 1155 mobo of similar price.
August 23, 2012 8:05:28 PM

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
$49.99

ASRock 880GM-LE FX AM3+ AMD 880G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
$54.99

PowerColor AX7850 2GBD5-2DH Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$209.99

COMBO
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ4GX3M2A1600C9B

$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$73.98

COMBO
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
$115.98

Subtotal: $504.93 (not including shipping or $30 in rebates)

You mentioned before that you have the HDD and OS, so those are not included in this setup. If I misunderstood you then I apologize.
August 23, 2012 8:11:51 PM

thank you all for the help

i have the hdd

should motherboard have latest pci e3 for ddr5 grafic cards?what combination of processor and grafic card & motherboard should i opt for if i want to play these games with maximum grafic settings.like cod mw3 crysis 2 assassins revelations gta 4 nfs run and latest games in such categories.

please suggest processor,motherboard,ram and grafix card mainly.power supply and cooling system,casing etc.but to play all the games smoothly.like gta 4 and crysis 2.with high quality grafix and maximum settings.
August 23, 2012 8:44:39 PM

aditya_27 said:
thank you all for the help

i have the hdd

should motherboard have latest pci e3 for ddr5 grafic cards?what combination of processor and grafic card & motherboard should i opt for if i want to play these games with maximum grafic settings.like cod mw3 crysis 2 assassins revelations gta 4 nfs run and latest games in such categories.

please suggest processor,motherboard,ram and grafix card mainly.power supply and cooling system,casing etc.but to play all the games smoothly.like gta 4 and crysis 2.with high quality grafix and maximum settings.

No, you don't need PCIe 3 to use the graphics cards with GDDR5 ram. PCIe 3 is for the most part unnecessary right now unless you are running a multi-monitor setup. And even then not sure all that bandwidth is needed.

For the majority of games, the graphics card is more important than the processor.
That's why I did my best to fit an HD7850 into the build I suggested. That is the best bang for the buck card right now. It will easily handle the games you suggested at 1920 x 1080.
What resolution is your monitor?
August 24, 2012 9:43:11 AM

i dont know
its benq 720p hd
what should be slot for grafic card on mobo?pci 2 or 3?
and wil gddr5 fit in pci 2 or 3?
i have many questions
also is it required to use two grafic cards with a bridge?what extra will it do?
also suggest me a good processor and card combination
bcoz i read that both should be balanced out
August 24, 2012 2:51:02 PM

i am confused between i3-2120 amd a8 3870k and i5

which one should i go for?and which grafic card & mobo should i use with above processor?
August 24, 2012 3:24:24 PM

aditya_27 said:
i dont know
its benq 720p hd
what should be slot for grafic card on mobo?pci 2 or 3?
and wil gddr5 fit in pci 2 or 3?
i have many questions
also is it required to use two grafic cards with a bridge?what extra will it do?
also suggest me a good processor and card combination
bcoz i read that both should be balanced out

720p huh...well then an HD7850 would probably be overkill. Might be better off going with an i5 and GTX 560 or HD6870. Let me see if I can come up with a setup under $500.
Don't worry about GDDR5. It has nothing to do whether it goes in a pcie 2 or 3 slot. ALL PCIe video cards will fit in either a PCIe 2 or 3 slot.

aditya_27 said:
i am confused between i3-2120 amd a8 3870k and i5
which one should i go for?and which grafic card & mobo should i use with above processor?

For serious gaming, stay away from the APUs like A8-3870K. An APU is a cpu combined with a graphics processor. They are good, but not for playing the games you want to play at the settings you want to play.
i3 is a dual core Intel CPU. i5 is a quad core Intel cpu.
August 24, 2012 3:50:25 PM

why u suggested me amd phenom?isnt core i3 better than that? i am thinking for core i3 2120 and ati raedon hd 7770.how it will be?if its good as for my requirements,which mobo should i go for?
August 24, 2012 3:56:07 PM

maui67 said:
720p huh...well then an HD7850 would probably be overkill. Might be better off going with an i5 and GTX 560 or HD6870. Let me see if I can come up with a setup under $500.
Don't worry about GDDR5. It has nothing to do whether it goes in a pcie 2 or 3 slot. ALL PCIe video cards will fit in either a PCIe 2 or 3 slot.


For serious gaming, stay away from the APUs like A8-3870K. An APU is a cpu combined with a graphics processor. They are good, but not for playing the games you want to play at the settings you want to play.
i3 is a dual core Intel CPU. i5 is a quad core Intel cpu.


why u suggested me amd phenom?isnt core i3 better than that? i am thinking for core i3 2120 and ati raedon hd 7770.how it will be?if its good as for my requirements,which mobo should i go for
August 24, 2012 4:01:32 PM

aditya_27 said:
why u suggested me amd phenom?isnt core i3 better than that? i am thinking for core i3 2120 and ati raedon hd 7770.how it will be?if its good as for my requirements,which mobo should i go for?

They actually are about the same. The Phenom can be overclocked and will outperform the i3. Plus at a budget of $500 you have to consider AMD Phenom.

But if you are adamant about i3, here's a possible setup:
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
$49.99

XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$174.99

Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT2G3D1609DS1S00
$24.99

COMBO
Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM
$130.98

COMBO
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$164.98

Subtotal: $545.93 (not counting $60 in rebates)

You could sub in a 7770 for the 6870 and save a few bucks but the 6870 is a little bit better card.
August 24, 2012 5:01:18 PM

maui67 said:
720p huh...well then an HD7850 would probably be overkill. Might be better off going with an i5 and GTX 560 or HD6870. Let me see if I can come up with a setup under $500.
Don't worry about GDDR5. It has nothing to do whether it goes in a pcie 2 or 3 slot. ALL PCIe video cards will fit in either a PCIe 2 or 3 slot.


For serious gaming, stay away from the APUs like A8-3870K. An APU is a cpu combined with a graphics processor. They are good, but not for playing the games you want to play at the settings you want to play.
i3 is a dual core Intel CPU. i5 is a quad core Intel cpu.


why u suggested me amd phenom?isnt core i3 better than that? i am thinking for core i3 2120 and ati raedon hd 7770.how it will be?if its good as for my requirements,which mobo should i go for
August 24, 2012 5:48:30 PM

what do you mean by overkill?and can you tell me what is bottle neck?

i am thinking for amd fx-4100 and 6850 1gb
is it good for me requirements?

also i can increase my budget to $600

August 24, 2012 7:25:21 PM

what is difference betwwen power color radon 6850 and asus radon 6850 and ati radon 6850 etc etc?
August 24, 2012 7:50:04 PM

maui67 said:
They actually are about the same. The Phenom can be overclocked and will outperform the i3. Plus at a budget of $500 you have to consider AMD Phenom.

But if you are adamant about i3, here's a possible setup:
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
$49.99

XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$174.99

Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT2G3D1609DS1S00
$24.99

COMBO
Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM
$130.98

COMBO
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$164.98

Subtotal: $545.93 (not counting $60 in rebates)

You could sub in a 7770 for the 6870 and save a few bucks but the 6870 is a little bit better card.



sory for trouble again

i want to know if i can get a motherborad that will go on for atlease 3 years so i need only replace the cpu and grafic card if i need upgrade it again.which mobo should i go for?

also i think i go for i3 and its corresponing mobo so i need only upgrade to i5 and a grafic card in next few years or so?

what you think?
August 24, 2012 8:14:14 PM

This new story is a must read for anyone recommending CPU or buying gaming CPUs

http://techreport.com/articles.x/23246/1

Sadly, they do not test enough CPUs in this way.

Then keeping in mind the limitations of such articles
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

You can get a good idea about which CPUs are going to be more effective over all. That hierarchy chart should not be based solely on FPS or even minimum FPS, but should take into account subjective impressions and overall CPU effectiveness, because computers are never used exclusively for gaming.

Once you have that idea about the performance of various CPUs you can look at prices. These prices change all the time.

Think of it this way

CPU score
+
video card score
-------------
overall score


What this means is that you need to look at the price vs the benefit. You have, lets say, $300 to spend between the CPU and the video card. You already know that the video card is more important than the CPU, but there has to be some balance.

So, in this $300 case, we can see that the closer we can get to $100 the better off we are likely to be, when buying a CPU.

Looking here we can see that $15 separates the Phenom II 965 and the i3 2120.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Will that sacrifice in CPU performance get you a better GPU? You can get the GTX 560ti for about $210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That's a great GPU, but probably overkill for a small monitor.

You can get a 6870 for $40 less
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and that would probably be enough video card for you.

So then, you can see it's down to those two CPUs. Will that extra $15 dollars get you something you need more than the stronger processor? Probably not.

Get the Intel processor + the 6870 if you are
-not going to upgrade your monitor
-not going to upgrade your CPU any time soon.

Get the AMD processor + the GTX 560ti if you
Are going to get a bigger monitor soon
Want to upgrade to the new AMD CPUs when they become available

So to sum it up that last build from maui67 seems pretty good for you.
August 24, 2012 9:00:25 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
September 2, 2012 11:22:16 AM

Proximon said:
This new story is a must read for anyone recommending CPU or buying gaming CPUs

http://techreport.com/articles.x/23246/1

Sadly, they do not test enough CPUs in this way.

Then keeping in mind the limitations of such articles
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

You can get a good idea about which CPUs are going to be more effective over all. That hierarchy chart should not be based solely on FPS or even minimum FPS, but should take into account subjective impressions and overall CPU effectiveness, because computers are never used exclusively for gaming.

Once you have that idea about the performance of various CPUs you can look at prices. These prices change all the time.

Think of it this way

CPU score
+
video card score
-------------
overall score


What this means is that you need to look at the price vs the benefit. You have, lets say, $300 to spend between the CPU and the video card. You already know that the video card is more important than the CPU, but there has to be some balance.

So, in this $300 case, we can see that the closer we can get to $100 the better off we are likely to be, when buying a CPU.

Looking here we can see that $15 separates the Phenom II 965 and the i3 2120.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Will that sacrifice in CPU performance get you a better GPU? You can get the GTX 560ti for about $210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That's a great GPU, but probably overkill for a small monitor.

You can get a 6870 for $40 less
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and that would probably be enough video card for you.

So then, you can see it's down to those two CPUs. Will that extra $15 dollars get you something you need more than the stronger processor? Probably not.

Get the Intel processor + the 6870 if you are
-not going to upgrade your monitor
-not going to upgrade your CPU any time soon.

Get the AMD processor + the GTX 560ti if you
Are going to get a bigger monitor soon
Want to upgrade to the new AMD CPUs when they become available

So to sum it up that last build from maui67 seems pretty good for you.



so,what is benchmark
what is fps
and what motherboard should i take that will support processors and grafic cards coming in next 2 or 3 years.coz i dont want to upgrade any sooner than 2 or 3 years,so i can only replace proccessor and grafic card if required and not the motherboard.
also what is need of two grafic card ports and connecting them together?
September 2, 2012 12:26:18 PM

maui67 said:
They actually are about the same. The Phenom can be overclocked and will outperform the i3. Plus at a budget of $500 you have to consider AMD Phenom.

But if you are adamant about i3, here's a possible setup:
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...
$49.99

XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$30.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$174.99

Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT2G3D1609DS1S00
$24.99

COMBO
Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA Model SH-222BB/BEBE - OEM
$130.98

COMBO
GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$164.98

Subtotal: $545.93 (not counting $60 in rebates)

You could sub in a 7770 for the 6870 and save a few bucks but the 6870 is a little bit better card.



iam going for i5-3470
please suggest a good grafic card around $150-$200
and a good mobo

September 5, 2012 3:28:54 AM

if your majority use for your PC is for games, intel CPUs are the best,also the parts i picked are almost the best for games,i5-3470 overkill for a single graphics card,i3-2120 wont be bottleneck for any single graphics card,7850 is much more efficient and faster than 560ti and 6870 ,maybe 7850 overkill for 720p resolution but it wont for future games or when you buy bigger screen,actually the motherboard i picked is also the best cheap motherboard you can find for 72$ it support CF and SLI ,good OC motherboard it also can support new ivy bridge CPUs by bios update .
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