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$1,000 New build, give or take a little please.

Hello,

Thank you in advance for taking the time to read and possibly set me in the right direction. I have never built a computer before as I have always been worried of screwing it up. I have gain the courage/confidence to undertake the task but have no idea where to start and the more I read, the more convoluted my decisions have become. I wish I could offer a list (as I see done almost always) of what my configuration would be so you could correct my decision but I do not even have that and am asking for your opinion on a complete build.

I multi-task a lot with cad. sketchup, music/video, mail client, etc. all running at once so need to be able to handle that without much lag. Currently I find it very irritable as to how long I have to wait for the computer to "Think". As per the sticky, here is my request:


Approximate Purchase Date: Within a month or two.

Budget Range: $1,000 range, give or take a little if needed; including shipping if possible.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Business (AutoCad, Sketchup, Photoshop, office2010, etc), Entertainment (Audio/video ripping/burning), Gaming (BF3, CSS, etc.)

Are you buying a monitor: No


Parts to Upgrade: All new.

Do you need to buy OS: Yes (but will be separate expense from build budget).

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: NewEgg or TigerDirect, would like to get all from one place though.

Location: City, State/Region, Country: Southern Oregon, US of A

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: I am leaning towards Intel.

Overclocking: Maybe.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe.

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200 (Dual Monitors).

Additional Comments: Would like a SSD for Windows installation for quicker start up/recovery. I will run multiple instances of sketchup, one on each screen, simultaneously.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I am on a old store bought computer that was okay in it's prime but is now a disgrace. I am looking at building one myself because I highly dislike not being able to upgrade anything because of how much the pre-builds restrict you.


Thank you again for any direction you can assist me in building a better system that will last longer than a year and keep me happy with it.
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  1. So a general jack-of-all-trades machine, for $1000, this should be interesting.

    Intel i5-3570k. $230
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
    A great gaming CPU, and should be plenty for things like CAD or Photoshop.

    AsRock Z77 Extreme4. $135
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157293
    One of the more popular boards here, has a great price and an abundance of features.

    G.Skill Ares 16GB 1600Mhz, CL9 1.5v. $87
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231545
    Usually for a rig like this, 8GB is plenty, but since you like to use multiple RAM heavy programs at once you will probably need the extra.

    XFX Core 650W, 80+ Bronze. $86
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020
    Standard fare for PSU's. Should easily power the rig and accommodate dual Crossfire/SLI (though 750W is generally recommended for that).

    Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM. $90
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148840
    Throw in your old HDD for even more storage. Or drop this HDD and use your old one if it was plenty of storage for you.

    OCZ Vertex 4 128GB. $110
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227791
    Fastest SSD around (well, fastest in most benchmarks) and has been very reliable so far. Just make sure to update its firmware before installing Windows to it.

    SApphire Radeon HD7850. $210
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102998
    Very nice card that dominates the mid-range IMO, especially given its recent price drop. Should play the BF3 at high(ish) settings.

    Zalman Z9+. $65
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811235027
    Very nice budget case, surprised they can sell these for a profit. Has most of the features found in higher end cases. Only exception is USB3, but not many cases in this price range have it anyway.

    Sony Black 18X. $19
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118031
    A BLU-Ray drive would be best in this machine, but is pretty pricey in an already straining budget. You could re-use the optical from your current PC to save yourself $20.

    Total: $1032(Not including Shipping, promo's,rebates or deals)

    That should be a nice, no frills jack-of-all-trades machine. It has the capability of overclocking on the CPU and GPU (dont bother with the RAM), but for the CPU you will need better cooling. The build is already over-budget so I didn't add it in, but a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is a great budget cooler that will support moderate overclocks on that CPU.
    Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO. $35
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

    Total + 212 EVO= $1067

    Of course, you can shop around for cheaper components to lower that total. I know Microcenter is very good for getting CPU/Mobo deals.
  2. I'd recommend a Western Digital Caviar Blue or Black over a Seagate hard drive. Otherwise, I think that it's a great build on all accounts.
  3. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006TVQTHW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER $69.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Antec Three Hundred Two Gaming Case, Black

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139040 $99.99 - $89.99 after $10.00 rebate
    CORSAIR CX Series CX750 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1030095 $346.98 save: $18.00
    Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A2EUTVCJXLAJ4K $33.45 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231545 $86.99 FREE SHIPPING
    G.SKILL Ares Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9Q-16GAO

    http://www.amazon.com/Lite--Super-AllWrite-Layer-Drive/dp/B002YIG9AQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1345672179&sr=1-4 $21.95 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
    Lite-On Super AllWrite 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive - Bulk - IHAS124-04 Version C (Black)

    http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST1000DM003/dp/B005T3GRNW/ref=sr_1_9?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1345672350&sr=1-9 $85.61 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 1 TB 7200RPM SATA 6 Gb/s NCQ 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST1000DM003

    http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extreme-Gb-s2-5-Inch-Solid-SDSSDX-120G-G25/dp/B006EKJCWM $90.10 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    SanDisk Extreme SSD 120 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SDSSDX-120G-G25

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127697 $299.99 FREE SHIPPING
    MSI N660Ti PE 2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

    Total: $1,135.05 *not including shipping & rebates


    *** 7850 version of this build. Switch out these items with the ones up above.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1021001 $151.98 save: $18.00 - $10.00 Mail In Rebates FREE SHIPPING
    CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
    Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102998 $209.99
    SAPPHIRE 100355L Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
  4. Hello ManOfChalk,

    Thanks for the set up information, I am still perusing through it all.

    Quote:
    Intel i5-3570k. $230
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
    A great gaming CPU, and should be plenty for things like CAD or Photoshop.


    Now is an i5 is better than an i7? This is primarily a business computer but like to game when I need to unwind/de-stress.

    Quote:
    Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM. $90
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148840
    Throw in your old HDD for even more storage. Or drop this HDD and use your old one if it was plenty of storage for you.


    I currently have a WD Caviar Black 1TB drive in my existing system and would be adding to the new build HDD. I am 80% paperless and keep all my documents on the hard-drive (along with NAS and a small percentage cloud based) so need the room.

    Quote:
    Sony Black 18X. $19
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827118031
    A BLU-Ray drive would be best in this machine, but is pretty pricey in an already straining budget. You could re-use the optical from your current PC to save yourself $20.

    Blu-Ray is a must have as I have kids and whenever I buy a DVD/Blu-Ray, I like to burn a copy of it for the shelf so when (not if) they ruin it, I still have the original safe.

    Quote:
    That should be a nice, no frills jack-of-all-trades machine. It has the capability of overclocking on the CPU and GPU (dont bother with the RAM), but for the CPU you will need better cooling. The build is already over-budget so I didn't add it in, but a Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO is a great budget cooler that will support moderate overclocks on that CPU.
    Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO. $35
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103099


    I would prefer a cooler possibly as my current stock system already has overheating issues.


    Something I may need to clarify and apologize for not thinking of doing so in original post. The statement of "$1,000 build, give or take a little"; The "Give or take" is more relevant to $100's, not $1.00's. I of course want the most bang for the buck and was hoping in the $1,000 range but if that means $1,200 or $1,300, then it is what it is.

    Thank you for your answers and guidance and I will look more in-depth to your suggestions.
  5. iknowhowtofixit said:



    Hi iknowhowtifix,

    Thanks for a great list but want to keep everything to one merchant to purchase from.
  6. Quote:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127697 $299.99 FREE SHIPPING
    MSI N660Ti PE 2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

    Total: $1,135.05 *not including shipping & rebates


    *** 7850 version of this build. Switch out these items with the ones up above.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1021001 $151.98 save: $18.00 - $10.00 Mail In Rebates FREE SHIPPING
    CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
    Corsair Carbide Series 300R Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102998 $209.99
    SAPPHIRE 100355L Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card


    Hello Why_Me,


    I have not had a lot of time to look through your list fully as I am off to a meeting but will when I return. Amazon did not even click when I was thinking of building a system and I use Amazon all the time for other things. Are the items you listed for NewEgg available on Amazon as well, or vice-versa? Also I had some other questions in regard to i5/i7 that I asked in "ManOfChalk's" reply.

    Thanks again.
  7. iknowhowtofixit said:
    Every item is available from Newegg. It would be less than $50 difference by getting everything from them. You can click on each item to see where it is available for purchase.


    Terrific! Thanks for bringing that to my attention and I will look closer at it then when I return.
  8. Not that an i5 is better for gaming, its just that an i7 is overkill. Gaming rarely uses more than 2 threads (an i5 has 4, i7 has 8). So getting an i7 for gaming is largely useless and a waste of money. For multi-threaded applications like video editing software and number crunching programs (Folding@Home type stuff), an i7 is superior to an i5.

    Ok then, just sub in this Blu-Ray burner.
    Lite-On Black 12X Blu-Ray burner. $60
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106369
    I'l admit don't know much about optical drives, especially Blu-Ray ones. So if someone objects to that drive and seems to know what their talking about, go with them.

    The rig as it stands will serve you quite nicely. Only areas of improvement would be a better case and maybe an i7 processor, but for Photoshop I don't think you will need the extra grunt.

    Heres my recommendation on some better cases. Pick the one you like the look of, chances are you will have it for a while.

    Coolermaster HAF-XM. $130
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119257
    My mid tower of choice, its aesthetic may be a turn off if its a work machine though.

    Corsair 600R. $115
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009
  9. Rarely might be an overstatement. A lot of games nowadays can use up to three or four threads fairly well, granted usually not as well as they use the first or first and second thread.
  10. Thanks guys. I will look at doing this with an i7 (any particular one I should look at?). I game a "little" but primarily run multiple instances of autocad, sketchup, rendering software, planswift, and a plethora of additional items running in the background simultaneously. I highly multi-task on two monitors and am thinking of going up to three soon.

    If anyone has anything to add, it would be appreciated. Thanks again for your time and direction, it has helped me already.
  11. The i7-3770k is the newest i7 on the market, and is the most performance you will get from the 1155 socket.
    Intel i7-3770k. $340
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
  12. The i7-3770K might be an ideal option if you do highly threaded work and a lot of multitasking.
  13. Hi all,

    I took the information you all gave me and went looking through it all. Again I was reading reviews and second guessing my choices. I did however come up with a system based on what I gleaned from you and now ask for your critique on it. The budget has been crossed and would not like to go any higher if I don't have to. It is looking like the sales are ending starting tomorrow so may need to start ordering. Thanks again for all of your help.


    Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

    COOLER MASTER HAF XM RC-922XM-KKN1 Black Mesh, Plastic, Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119257

    CORSAIR CX Series CX750 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139040

    SAPPHIRE 100355L Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102998

    ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131818

    LITE-ON 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner with 3D Playback iHBS212-08 LightScribe Support
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106348

    LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM Black SATA Model iHAS424-98 LightScribe Support
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106335

    Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792

    Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568

    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
  14. OP specifically said that OP is doing some work that would benefit from an i7 and that OP is also doing a lot of multi-tasking that would also benefit from an i7. OP's CPU choice is correct. The Corsair PSU (A CX series, not builder series) is better than the Rosewill PSU. I've also heard of severe coil whine issues with the HIS 7950, although I admit that I didn't have problems when I built a machine with it.
  15. iknowhowtofixit said:
    CPU - i5-3570k - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504
    The only difference between this and the i7-3770k is 100mhz and the 3770k costs $110 more! Not worth it! You would be better off investing that extra $110 in graphics.

    GPU - HIS iceQ Turbo HD7950 - $319.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161415
    Use that $110 dollars saved on the CPU to beef up the graphics to arguably the best bang for the buck GPU on the market right now. This HIS model comes with a fantastic aftermarket cooler as well.

    PSU - Rosewill FORTRESS 650 watt - $95.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182083
    This PSU is on a completely different level than that group regulated low-end Corsair builder series.
    See review here: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rosewill-FORTRESS-650-Power-Supply-Review/1597/1

    The rest of your build is fine. Do you plan on overclocking at all? You could easily get to 4.0GHz on the i5-3570k without even trying.


    Hi iknowhowtofix,

    Thanks for the heads up.

    I am a little confused with the i5/i7 choice. I thought that the i7 would be better for the multi-tasking I do. If the i5 can do it, then I do not mind saving some money. I am just tired of being unable to run my software without issues.

    I looked at this video card and if I am mistaken, I cannot run dual DVI with it. I currently have dual monitors and am looking to possibly go up to three eventually; but definitely need two.

    With the PSU, as long as it will power everything and have some room for any upgrades down the road, it sounds good.

    Thanks again.
  16. Yes, I do autocad, sketchup, chief architect, and some other 3d modeling with rendering. I am a design/build contractor and it is not uncommon for me to have at least two sketches/designs up working on them while having streaming music, email client, while switching to web cloud apps and internet often. I game when I have downtime or want to unwind at the end of the day.
  17. Except in the importance list stated in the first post, business use is more important than gaming. And a HD7850 is very sufficient for single screen gaming, and considering the initial budget has already been blown, a beefier graphics card isnt worth the cost.

    Though I will agree with you on the PSU, it is a bit overkill and (at least marketed as) of lower quality. The Enthusiast 650W would be a better option. 750W is only needed if dual SLI/Crossfire may be a factor (though you could technically still do that on a 650W)
  18. Okay, so if I go with the Rosewill Fortress 650W, that will power everything for the i7 and the SSD? If so, if go with that and the HD7850, everything else should be okay? Also, is there anything else I would need to get (i.e. wires, brackets, adapters, etc)?

    Thanks
  19. The motherboard should come with SATA cables for hard drives, SSDs, and optical drives and the PSU should have all of the power cables. The Rosewill PSU should have more than enough power for the current hardware while also leaving some room for future upgrades. There shouldn't be any brackets, adapters, and other cables to worry about.
  20. Hello All,

    I have been lost in the internet doing more research and am pretty happy with the build you have all helped me come up with. If between now and when I place the order, if I have the urge to change anything I would like to check with you guys first.

    A question I have is the "Select Best Answer" button; I have seen it used before but I do not have "one" best answer but three combined helpful answers, so how do I go about that part of it? I have to make a comment as well as to how helpful, considerate, and a pleasure it was to speak with you guys. To the regs on most boards, new people are nothing but a font or a newb and are treated as such so may I offer again, a personable thank you for truly being a help to someone completely lost in all of this.
  21. sawdustmaker said:


    A question I have is the "Select Best Answer" button; I have seen it used before but I do not have "one" best answer but three combined helpful answers, so how do I go about that part of it? I have to make a comment as well as to how helpful, considerate, and a pleasure it was to speak with you guys. To the regs on most boards, new people are nothing but a font or a newb and are treated as such so may I offer again, a personable thank you for truly being a help to someone completely lost in all of this.



    Give it to me! lol j/k!

    Flip a coin or give it to who answered first or if you used more parts off a certain build.
    Have fun with your awesome computer!
  22. Just thank the people who helped you the most on this thread and just edit the title of the thread by writing [Answered] before the title.
  23. Well obviously you pick the answer with the most words in it.
    (Just coincidence that its mine, no relation between this comment and that fact...)

    As far as I know you cant split your best answer. Maybe you could divide each answer (so 20/30/50% best answer). Then give the biggest percentage the award and have a follow up post with honorary/consolation awards.

    We need to get this as a permanent addition to the forums!
  24. lol.
  25. iknowhowtofixit said:
    I noticed that, since last night, the HIS iceQ turbo has randomly become "discontinued" on Newegg's site. So here is a link to the non-turbo HIS iceQ. Same aftermarket cooling, but no 100mhz core clock speed bump. Its $20 cheaper and can easily be overclocked in AMD's Catalyst Control Center to make up the clock speed difference.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161407

    If you can afford the extra $90, I would shoot for both the i7-3770 and the HD7950.
    Here is a comparison of the HD7850 and the HD7950: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/549?vs=550



    I will be getting the i7-3770 as I feel that would be best for my multi-tasking and also for whatever comes in the near future.

    The link to the non-turbo HIS iceQ does not work and when I searched for it on NewEgg, I could not find it so am assuming it was taken off too. Is HIS better than Sapphire? I was looking at getting the following:

    SAPPHIRE 100352OCSR Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102991 if I upgrade before I order.

    Thanks.
  26. azeem40 said:
    Just thank the people who helped you the most on this thread and just edit the title of the thread by writing [Answered] before the title.



    How do I edit the title?

    Thanks.
  27. Best answer
    I would say Sapphire is better than HIS, or at least has a better known to be good brand. I have the Sapphire HD7870 and no problems with it so far.

    When you select best answer, it should edit the title with [Answered] automatically.
  28. Best answer selected by sawdustmaker.
  29. Thank you all for your help but no more upgrades on this system please.... lol It is now sitting at $1750.00 just a tad more than I was expecting but still doable. Now just need to see if I should jump on the deals now or wait for any upcoming sales that could be better.

    I was in a quandary as to whom the best answer should go to as you have all helped immensely. I ended up giving it to ManOfChalk for his understanding of the reasons behind my build first off and helping to keep it on that track,.... also he answered my question of "How do I edit the title?" perfectly. Haha

    Thanks again and I will seek your assistance again when it all comes on.
  30. Whether or not you watch for top deals should depend on when you want to buy this machine. If you're willing to wait a few days or even a few weeks, then it would be better for you to watch deals like a hawk to save the most money. If you want to buy it as soon as possible, then I'd recommend looking at what deals there are available right now and try to do the best with what's available.
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