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January 10, 2013 1:48:04 AM

hey guys. I will be buying my Gaming pc on 15th Jan. or maybe 16th Jan.

Here is my PC specs, Please do let me know, if I am buying something wrong.

Motherboard - ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard

Processor - Intel 3.4 GHz LGA 1155 Core i5 3570K Processor

Graphics or Video Card - Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7850 HDMI OC Edition 2 GB GDDR5 OR ZOTAC NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti 2GB 2 GB GDDR5

Cabinet - Corsair Carbide 400R

Internal Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 1 TB OR Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB

CPU Cooler - COOLER MASTER CPU COOLER HYPER 212 EVO

RAM - Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB (2 x 4 GB) = 8GB in total

PSU or SMPS - Seasonic S12II 520 Watts

Now, I want you to tell if in Graphics Card, Internal Hard Drive , which one to choose. And yeah, For the first time I am going to buy ASRock Motherboard, So I have no idea how it is, but some of my friends told that its good. So you guys know if ASRock is better compare to Asus or Gigabyte. Coming to processor, I won't be buying Intel i7 3770K because it is crossing my budget & I don't think I need that much like 6 cores. In graphics Card, I haven't used ATI cards in my life, so again my friend told that Sapphire 7850 is pretty cool & much effective come to nvidia & price also. Cabinet, I have decided to take Carbide 400R from Corsair, so no changes in that. RAM is also looks pretty good, I don't think I will change, but if you guys think that G.skill or Samsung RAM are good , then please do let me know. And at last, I really need help in selecting PSU, but in random I have chosen Seasonic 520W which I think will be enough.

Thank you Guys, Hope you will help & recommend me.
Sorry for bad english.
Thanks.

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January 10, 2013 1:50:48 AM

the 7850 is alot better than the 650,

the rest looks good :) 

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January 10, 2013 1:54:38 AM

hershgupta said:
hey guys. I will be buying my Gaming pc on 15th Jan. or maybe 16th Jan.

Here is my PC specs, Please do let me know, if I am buying something wrong.

Motherboard - ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Motherboard

Processor - Intel 3.4 GHz LGA 1155 Core i5 3570K Processor

Graphics or Video Card - Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7850 HDMI OC Edition 2 GB GDDR5 OR ZOTAC NVIDIA GTX 650 Ti 2GB 2 GB GDDR5

Cabinet - Corsair Carbide 400R

Internal Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 1 TB OR Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB

CPU Cooler - COOLER MASTER CPU COOLER HYPER 212 EVO

RAM - Corsair Vengeance DDR3 4 GB (2 x 4 GB) = 8GB in total

PSU or SMPS - Seasonic S12II 520 Watts

Now, I want you to tell if in Graphics Card, Internal Hard Drive , which one to choose. And yeah, For the first time I am going to buy ASRock Motherboard, So I have no idea how it is, but some of my friends told that its good. So you guys know if ASRock is better compare to Asus or Gigabyte. Coming to processor, I won't be buying Intel i7 3770K because it is crossing my budget & I don't think I need that much like 6 cores. In graphics Card, I haven't used ATI cards in my life, so again my friend told that Sapphire 7850 is pretty cool & much effective come to nvidia & price also. Cabinet, I have decided to take Carbide 400R from Corsair, so no changes in that. RAM is also looks pretty good, I don't think I will change, but if you guys think that G.skill or Samsung RAM are good , then please do let me know. And at last, I really need help in selecting PSU, but in random I have chosen Seasonic 520W which I think will be enough.

Thank you Guys, Hope you will help & recommend me.
Sorry for bad english.
Thanks.


That seems fine the only things I would comment on is the video card and HDD. The 650Ti is a lowend entry level gaming cards. The 7850 is better and to make a fair comparison you would have to compare the 7850 to something like a 660 or 660TI. What games are you going to be playing and at what resolution?

As for the HDD you don't need a 2TB HDD. That is way overkill. Really you can even make an argument that 1TB is overkill or borderline overkill since in most cases most people won't come anywhere near filling a whole TB drive.
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January 10, 2013 1:55:21 AM

iceclock said:
the 7850 is alot better than the 650,

the rest looks good :) 

And what you think about ASRock motherboard. Will it be good buying ASRock instead of Gigabyte or Asus.
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January 10, 2013 1:58:38 AM

ASRock is fine. I persoanlly like Gigabyte and Asus a little better but there is nothing wrong with ASRock motherboards.
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January 10, 2013 1:58:42 AM

rds1220 said:
That seems fine the only things I would comment on is the video card and HDD. The video cards are lowend entry level gaming cards. You get what you pay for. What games are you going to be playing and at what resolution?

As for the HDD you don't need a 2TB HDD. That is way overkill. Really you can even make an argument that 1TB is overkill or borderline overkill since in most cases most people won't come anywhere near filling a whole TB drive.

Thanks for telling me. coming to HDD, I think I have mistaken in typing that 2TB, if I will go for WD, I will go for 1TB. What you think , which one will be better, Seagate or West Digital.

And coming to Video Card, I really want to do Hardcore Gaming, Like Far cry 3 (maxed OUT), BF3(maxed OUT), and all new release games.
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January 10, 2013 1:59:52 AM

rds1220 said:
ASRock is fine. I persoanlly like Gigabyte and Asus a little better but there is nothing wrong with ASRock motherboards.

then, what you say. Should I go for ASRock, or Asus or Gigabyte.
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January 10, 2013 2:06:47 AM

Both are fine I personally don't like Western Digital very much because I have had a number of problems with them. A while back I bought an OEM desktop and in just under 6 months the Cavier Black HDD drive died. I got another 1 TB Cavier Black and again it died in under 6 months. I then bought another one and that one is still working as far as I know. Having two die in less than 6 months turned me against Western Digital. For the most part I have used Seagate and have had far less problems. Either way you take a chance no matter what. Next to RAM HDD's seem to be the one piece of hardware that breaks the most often. I guess because they have fast moving parts and create a good bit of heat.

If you want to max out games at high resolutions (1920X1080 or higher) you are going to have to get a better video card like a GTX 670/680 or Radeon 6950/6970. You get what you pay for. A 200 dollar video card is not going to perform to the same level as a 400 dollar video card.

hershgupta said:
then, what you say. Should I go for ASRock, or Asus or Gigabyte.


It doesn't matter they are all fine.
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January 10, 2013 2:14:55 AM

rds1220 said:
Both are fine I personally don't like Western Digital very much because I have had a number of problems with them. A while back I bought an OEM desktop and in just under 6 months the Cavier Black HDD drive died. I got another 1 TB Cavier Black and again it died in under 6 months. I then bought another one and that one is still working as far as I know. Having two die in less than 6 months turned me against Western Digital. For the most part I have used Seagate and have had far less problems. Either way you take a chance no matter what. Next to RAM HDD's seem to be the one piece of hardware that breaks the most often. I guess because they have fast moving parts and create a good bit of heat.

If you want to max out games at high resolutions (1920X1080 or higher) you are going to have to get a better video card like a GTX 670/680 or Radeon 6950/6970. You get what you pay for. A 200 dollar video card is not going to perform to the same level as a 400 dollar video card.

Okay then, I will then defiantly go for Seagate Baracudda 1 TB.
And coming to Video Cards, See there are different price range in different countries.
So I will give you the list of price of cards, that you have mention above.

GTX 670 - 492.18 USD
GTX 680 - 643.97 USD
Radeon 6950 - 306.65 USD
Radeon 6970 - 374.76 USD
And the Card which I chose is Sapphire 7850 - 283.20 USD
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January 10, 2013 2:17:00 AM

asrock is owned by asus, both are good, asrock has good quality, also seagate is just as good as western digital depending on what model u have to choose from.

id say go for the sapphir 7850 as ur on a budget,


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January 10, 2013 2:38:13 AM

rds1220 said:
Both are fine I personally don't like Western Digital very much because I have had a number of problems with them. A while back I bought an OEM desktop and in just under 6 months the Cavier Black HDD drive died. I got another 1 TB Cavier Black and again it died in under 6 months. I then bought another one and that one is still working as far as I know. Having two die in less than 6 months turned me against Western Digital. For the most part I have used Seagate and have had far less problems. Either way you take a chance no matter what. Next to RAM HDD's seem to be the one piece of hardware that breaks the most often. I guess because they have fast moving parts and create a good bit of heat.

If you want to max out games at high resolutions (1920X1080 or higher) you are going to have to get a better video card like a GTX 670/680 or Radeon 6950/6970. You get what you pay for. A 200 dollar video card is not going to perform to the same level as a 400 dollar video card.



It doesn't matter they are all fine.

I can go for HD6950 Video Card as there is not much price difference, but just wondering that , HD6950 is PCIE 2.1 and 7850 is 3.0. I don't know if that make any difference. Should I go for 6950? What you say ?
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January 10, 2013 2:39:03 AM

I agree if you are on a budget the 7850 would be fine. Once again though you aren't going to be able to max out games with that video card if you are playing at 1920 or higher.
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January 10, 2013 2:43:33 AM

rds1220 said:
I agree if you are on a budget the 7850 would be fine. Once again though you aren't going to be able to max out games with that video card if you are playing at 1920 or higher.

Then should I go for 6950 as you have recommended above.
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January 10, 2013 2:50:15 AM

the 6950 isnt any better than the 7850, id go with the 7850 or buy a 7870

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January 10, 2013 3:02:51 AM

rds1220 said:
That seems fine the only things I would comment on is the video card and HDD. The 650Ti is a lowend entry level gaming cards. The 7850 is better and to make a fair comparison you would have to compare the 7850 to something like a 660 or 660TI. What games are you going to be playing and at what resolution?

As for the HDD you don't need a 2TB HDD. That is way overkill. Really you can even make an argument that 1TB is overkill or borderline overkill since in most cases most people won't come anywhere near filling a whole TB drive.


Videos take up a lot, its a real pain in the ass.
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January 10, 2013 3:03:35 AM

hershgupta said:
Then should I go for 6950 as you have recommended above.


No it is now a generation (soon to be 2 generations old.) When you look at the way it scales the 6950 isn't much better than the 7850 because the 7000 series of video cards is slightly faster than the previous 6000 series generation.
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January 10, 2013 3:10:11 AM

Kiowa789 said:
Videos take up a lot, its a real pain in the ass.


IF you are saving a million pictures and video's to your HDD than a 1TB HDD is fine. If you are using your computers for games and everyday use you can make a pretty strong argument that a 1TB HDD is overkill and a 2 TB is way overkill. You can see in my sig that I have a 1TB HDD for my gaming computer and even with all the games I have installed on it, it is nowhere near full.
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January 10, 2013 3:19:30 AM

rds1220 said:
No it is now a generation (soon to be 2 generations old.) When you look at the way it scales the 6950 isn't much better than the 7850 because the 7000 series of video cards is slightly faster than the previous 6000 series generation.

then I suppose I will go for 7850.
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January 10, 2013 4:00:31 AM

Your build looks good, except your GPU definitely looks like a potential bottleneck to your system.

I ditched my 6950 a month ago because it couldn't give me a solid-locked 60fps in Far Cry 3 with all minimum and DX9, no AA. 70% of the game I could get 60-70fps but in any villages or areas with long draw distances, the 6950 just couldn't do the job. As for BF3, I could only get around 60fps if I was running medium settings. Most maps I had to run all minimum to get over 60fps. So just giving you an idea of what to expect. With AMD preparing to introduce their 8000 series cards, I'd stay away from the 6000 series. I'd look at a GTX 660 or 670 or better, or a HD 7870 or better. If you want maxed out games, you'll have to pay a pretty penny. GPU is the most expensive part of most gaming builds, but it's worth it.

As for the motherboard, I have the exact same and I am quite content with it. No complaints, and it even withstood a little bit of abuse from a first-time builder ;)  ASRock boards are less expensive because they aren't top-line quality, but they are still good. No complaints about mine.
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January 10, 2013 7:11:16 AM

Murderotica926 said:
Your build looks good, except your GPU definitely looks like a potential bottleneck to your system.

I ditched my 6950 a month ago because it couldn't give me a solid-locked 60fps in Far Cry 3 with all minimum and DX9, no AA. 70% of the game I could get 60-70fps but in any villages or areas with long draw distances, the 6950 just couldn't do the job. As for BF3, I could only get around 60fps if I was running medium settings. Most maps I had to run all minimum to get over 60fps. So just giving you an idea of what to expect. With AMD preparing to introduce their 8000 series cards, I'd stay away from the 6000 series. I'd look at a GTX 660 or 670 or better, or a HD 7870 or better. If you want maxed out games, you'll have to pay a pretty penny. GPU is the most expensive part of most gaming builds, but it's worth it.

As for the motherboard, I have the exact same and I am quite content with it. No complaints, and it even withstood a little bit of abuse from a first-time builder ;)  ASRock boards are less expensive because they aren't top-line quality, but they are still good. No complaints about mine.

and what about HD 7850?
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January 10, 2013 12:31:20 PM

hershgupta said:
and what about HD 7850?

7850 is good for its price, hits exactly where people have their budget most of the time.
I'd go with the 7850, if you can do more I'd do 7870/660/660 ti
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January 10, 2013 12:36:01 PM

Murderotica926 said:
Your build looks good, except your GPU definitely looks like a potential bottleneck to your system.

I ditched my 6950 a month ago because it couldn't give me a solid-locked 60fps in Far Cry 3 with all minimum and DX9, no AA. 70% of the game I could get 60-70fps but in any villages or areas with long draw distances, the 6950 just couldn't do the job. As for BF3, I could only get around 60fps if I was running medium settings. Most maps I had to run all minimum to get over 60fps. So just giving you an idea of what to expect. With AMD preparing to introduce their 8000 series cards, I'd stay away from the 6000 series. I'd look at a GTX 660 or 670 or better, or a HD 7870 or better. If you want maxed out games, you'll have to pay a pretty penny. GPU is the most expensive part of most gaming builds, but it's worth it.

As for the motherboard, I have the exact same and I am quite content with it. No complaints, and it even withstood a little bit of abuse from a first-time builder ;)  ASRock boards are less expensive because they aren't top-line quality, but they are still good. No complaints about mine.

ASRock are unofficially top of the line, they feature really good boards, with awesome parts on it, and they charge low for it, they just ship bad software with it.
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January 10, 2013 1:24:50 PM

asrock is owned by asus, and asus makes good boards :) 

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January 10, 2013 3:32:45 PM

Kiowa789 said:
7850 is good for its price, hits exactly where people have their budget most of the time.
I'd go with the 7850, if you can do more I'd do 7870/660/660 ti

Yeah, That's the only problem with my budget.
I think I have to go for 7850 as I have no choice because I can't spend more. As the price is different from other countries, & costly too.
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January 10, 2013 3:39:13 PM

Kiowa789 said:
ASRock are unofficially top of the line, they feature really good boards, with awesome parts on it, and they charge low for it, they just ship bad software with it.

And one more Question, The place from where I am going to buy , it is showing that,

MSI AMD R7850 Power Edition 2GD5/OC 2 GB GDDR5 - 282.77USD

Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7850 HDMI OC Edition 2 GB GDDR5 - 284.73USD

Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 GV-N660OC-2GD - 290.62USD

How come 660 is only of 290USD.
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January 10, 2013 3:45:41 PM

the gtx 660 is faster than the 7850 barenone, id recommand this over the 7850 if its similar price,. more performance for same price=better

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January 10, 2013 3:48:20 PM

iceclock said:
the gtx 660 is faster than the 7850 barenone, id recommand this over the 7850 if its similar price,. more performance for same price=better

Thanks then i should probably lock in Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 GV-N660OC-2GD. Just one question, is gigabyte cards do last enough?
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January 10, 2013 3:49:09 PM

yes :) , i really cant say any card can fail, but gigabyte is of good quality, and has a 2 or 3 year warranty i beleive and they got good quality designs and coolers, ull be fine :) 

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January 10, 2013 3:51:08 PM

hershgupta said:
And one more Question, The place from where I am going to buy , it is showing that,

MSI AMD R7850 Power Edition 2GD5/OC 2 GB GDDR5 - 282.77USD

Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7850 HDMI OC Edition 2 GB GDDR5 - 284.73USD

Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 GV-N660OC-2GD - 290.62USD

How come 660 is only of 290USD.

Hey harshit i think you are from India and just like me wanting to build a gaming pc.
But i would suggest you to buy GTX 660 among the above suggested GPU's.

As for your build it is good. But even with Gtx 660 you cannot max out demanding games like Far Cry, Battlefield 3, etc.
So i would suggest you the following:
Intel i5 3570
Gigabyte H77M D3H
Sapphire VaporX HD 7950 OC 3GD / MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition
REST CONFIG SAME AS YOURS.
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January 10, 2013 3:52:28 PM

yes still, hes on a limited budget thats why, ;) 

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January 10, 2013 4:03:29 PM

N@m@n said:
Hey harshit i think you are from India and just like me wanting to build a gaming pc.
But i would suggest you to buy GTX 660 among the above suggested GPU's.

As for your build it is good. But even with Gtx 660 you cannot max out demanding games like Far Cry, Battlefield 3, etc.
So i would suggest you the following:
Intel i5 3570
Gigabyte H77M D3H
Sapphire VaporX HD 7950 OC 3GD / MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition
REST CONFIG SAME AS YOURS.

But still dude, 7970 is like 34k Rs. or 626USD.
Coming to the motherboard, I don't think h77m d3h is high build motherboard. Ud3H of gigabyte is much better than this. And No way I can put 626USD in only video cards.
I'd rather go for 3570k unlocked processor over 3570. So, any ways, your build is too high too expensive & dosen't fit in. But still thanks for your help.
I think i'll go for 660 as recommend by "iceclock".
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January 10, 2013 4:19:30 PM

hershgupta said:
And one more Question, The place from where I am going to buy , it is showing that,

MSI AMD R7850 Power Edition 2GD5/OC 2 GB GDDR5 - 282.77USD

Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7850 HDMI OC Edition 2 GB GDDR5 - 284.73USD

Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 GV-N660OC-2GD - 290.62USD

How come 660 is only of 290USD.


I'd go 7850 Now, and wait till the next driver release, in the mean time, overclock it.
Also, I'd go sapphire.
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January 10, 2013 4:29:34 PM

Kiowa789 said:
I'd go 7850 Now, and wait till the next driver release, in the mean time, overclock it.
Also, I'd go sapphire.

Why no 660? Any reasons ?
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January 10, 2013 5:13:32 PM

the 660gtx beats anyday of the week the 7850, and when overclocked theres no contest there :) 

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January 10, 2013 10:40:35 PM

iceclock said:
the 660gtx beats anyday of the week the 7850, and when overclocked theres no contest there :) 

7850 can go higher than a 660.
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January 10, 2013 10:47:08 PM

7850 even overclocked doesnt equal an overclocked 660 gtx, sorry mate

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