Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

What upgrade would help my older gaming system the most ? : )

Tags:
  • New Build
  • Gaming
  • GPUs
  • Systems
Last response: in Systems
Share
August 28, 2012 1:00:45 AM

Hey people of TomsHardWare, :bounce: 

You guys have advised me on my 2 previous gamer enthusiast builds and I have been very pleased with the systems you helped me put together, so here I am again with a very particular question.
My older gaming system is getting a bit slow here and there and I was wondering what upgrades would be most helpful.

Approximate Purchase Date: next 2 weeks

Budget Range: 300 -500 (but if it’s just for a gpu I would go midrange 300-350)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Guild wars 2 heavy WvWvW, Bf3, crysis 2, skyrim

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, probably be upgrading that to but I’ve got a separate budget for that.

Parts to Upgrade: Gpu ? Cpu ? Ram ? Motherboard ? You guys tell me.


Parts Preferences: I have been looking at the gtx 660 ti for Gpu upgrade

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 on the new monitor

Currently in my pc:
Motherboard : Gigabyte S-series : x48-DS4
CPU: intel core 2 duo E8400 (3ghz, 4*333 mhz, 6mb)
GPU: EAH 4870 Dark Knight 1gig
RAM: DDR2 4gigs of Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5

Power supply : Corsair TX 750 W
Case: Antec 900

Comments
Ofcourse GPU upgrade could be the obvious way to go but I’m afraid that my older Cpu or my ddr2 RAM might bottleneck a new GPU, or that the motherboard would not support a new GPU. In which case I would have to go for almost an entirely new system.

If a gpu upgrade wouldn’t get bottlenecked, what GPU should I go for ? The nvidea gtx 660 Ti is looking pretty epic to me but I thought that my motherboard was more Ati Readon oriented.. (or is this just foolishness xD)

Main Question: What upgrade(s?) would be best for my pc for under 500 euro.

Thanks a lot in advance! :sol:  :sol: 

More about : upgrade older gaming system

a b 4 Gaming
August 28, 2012 1:07:55 AM

Both need an upgrade. An i5-3450/3570/3470, ASRock Pro3 and 6870 will be great.

About the Radeon oriented part, a motherboard does not impact a GPU's performance.
a b 4 Gaming
August 28, 2012 1:42:53 AM

You could upgrade everything as mentioned and sell that motherboard for a few bucks x48 doesn't go cheap..... But you should be able to get 4ghz out of the current cpu and it should allow for a 7850 1GB (cheaper) alternately online GTX 570's are getting pretty cheap and you will see a massive gaming improvement.

If your upgrading im not sure 6870 is enough. But at the same time in a year or so you could update the GPU.
Related resources
August 28, 2012 1:51:00 AM

@ obsama: Wow, that's cpu/mb and gpu for about 450.
1) Isn't the 6870 a bit underpowered ? I can't imagen it playing Bf3 at max
2) Would the ddr2 ram be 'good enough' for that new mb, gpu and cpu ?

@Spentshell: Mhmm, staying with my current mb and cpu, but overclocking the cpu + buying a 350 dollar gpu (why not the 660Ti ? :p )
. Would that take away ''most of my problems ?''.
In other words, the RAM and CPU aren't really the problem ? :) 
August 28, 2012 1:54:03 AM

spentshells said:
You could upgrade everything as mentioned and sell that motherboard for a few bucks x48 doesn't go cheap..... But you should be able to get 4ghz out of the current cpu and it should allow for a 7850 1GB (cheaper) alternately online GTX 570's are getting pretty cheap and you will see a massive gaming improvement.

If your upgrading im not sure 6870 is enough. But at the same time in a year or so you could update the GPU.


A 7870 is the same price as a GTX 570, but basically better in every way: lower power consumption, lower heat output/temps, and slightly faster, it's just like the 5850 being better in every way compared to a GTX 280/285.
a b 4 Gaming
August 28, 2012 1:55:08 AM

OK, spend a bit more and get the 7850 which plays BF3 at Ultra at 45-50FPS and High at 60FPS. Nope, RAM isn't compatible. Would have to replace that. 8GB kit is about $45 which is about 36 euros. The build will bottleneck a 660Ti.
August 28, 2012 2:02:28 AM

obsama1 said:
OK, spend a bit more and get the 7850 which plays BF3 at Ultra at 45-50FPS and High at 60FPS. Nope, RAM isn't compatible. Would have to replace that. 8GB kit is about $45 which is about 36 euros. The build will bottleneck a 660Ti.

I don't know about the pricing situation where you live, but in the US the 7870 is about $40 cheaper than the 660 Ti while offering the same performance.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/548?vs=647
a b 4 Gaming
August 28, 2012 2:04:47 AM

I live in the US.
August 28, 2012 2:07:55 AM

Hehe, if you're saying that the build will bottleneck a 660Ti. Are you talking about my current build AND the one you're suggestign ? :) 

+ I'm from europe, but particular stores don't really matter atm. Just trying to figer out what to do best :) 
a b 4 Gaming
August 28, 2012 2:09:04 AM

Sorry for the confusion, talking about your current build.
a b 4 Gaming
August 28, 2012 2:13:46 AM

I would just do a new build and sell the old parts. You could then add the money you get from selling to your budget and build a brilliant new computer :) 

I have

I5 3570k
Radeon 7850 (Great card for the money and can easily play BF3 on high).

Not sure what type of cash you mean though as you haven't stated.
a b 4 Gaming
August 28, 2012 2:28:10 AM

sabot00 said:
A 7870 is the same price as a GTX 570, but basically better in every way: lower power consumption, lower heat output/temps, and slightly faster, it's just like the 5850 being better in every way compared to a GTX 280/285.


in canada theyare quite a biut cheaper and no 280 vs 5850 is no the same thing as one is dx11 and the other is dx10 but I see your poin in the usa but.... they are in fact heaper in canada by 50 in some cases localy anyway

August 28, 2012 8:45:55 PM

spentshells said:
in canada theyare quite a biut cheaper and no 280 vs 5850 is no the same thing as one is dx11 and the other is dx10 but I see your poin in the usa but.... they are in fact heaper in canada by 50 in some cases localy anyway


My point with the 5850/GTX 280 comparison was that the 5850 performed better while being cooler, less power hungry, and supporting newer technologies.

At the time, and even today, there were no games that had only a DX11 codepath, and thus the difference between DX10/11 support on the cards was irrelavant from a performance standpoint, as both could run all games, so I could very well compare the performance of the two cards.
a b 4 Gaming
August 28, 2012 9:24:47 PM

I see what you mean but that wasn't where I was going so much as 50 bucks isn't terrible savings for similar performance. Also it seems a lot of people prefer NV but me Im more a bang for the buck type fella. A guy I work with has a 6950 similar but lower than the 570 give or take 15% in 90% of benches/games and he runs his 8400 at stock and frankly he still loves it. I figure he could get by with a 1gb 7850 or 570 very similar except the power draw but hey some like NV
a b 4 Gaming
August 28, 2012 9:28:01 PM

^^^
+1
!