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New Desktop for Interior Design purpose (+-1900$)

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August 28, 2012 6:47:44 AM

Purpose of use: 3DsMax + Vray, Autocad, Photoshop, Illustrator ...

Budget: About 1900 dollars (1500 euro) (60 000 baht)

What I will use from old desktop: OCZ AGILITY 4 120Gb and my H80 watercooling. Also I got screen/mouse/keyboard already.

I will purchase my parts on : http://www.tkcom99.com/pricelist.php

I have no clue where to start to put up a decent system, that can perform well and decrease my rendertimes.

So any help is welcome.

Thanks in advance

Approximate Purchase Date:this week

Budget Range: 1900 dollars - 1500 euro - 60 000 baht :) 

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3DsMax + Vray, Autocad, Photoshop, Illustrator

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: CPU, mobo, RAM, graphic card, powersupply, DVD reader, case, extra 1TB HD

Do you need to buy OS: No


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: http://www.tkcom99.com/pricelist.php http://www.jedicool.com/pricelist.php

Location: Bangkok

Parts Preferences:INTEL

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe no clue

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080


And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Need faster render

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August 28, 2012 9:47:15 AM

There are a number of choices, you need to consider, with "an eye" on your budget.
For professional design graphics, you really need "workstation" graphics card. Providing you have no requirement for gaming, that is not a problem. If you want both, they are very expensive. You can use "consumer" graphics that will DO both, but will not be AS good, or as durable, as a workstation card, for design work.
You will certainly need an i7 processor. Quad core is probably enough, but if work is very demanding/intense, it may be worth considering hex core. Trouble is, they are more expensive, and may "stretch" your budget.
I tend to think, from your post, Quad core i7, and workstation graphics. If you agree, can work something out.
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August 28, 2012 9:56:12 AM

My work is 95 procent interior single frame renders, so no heavily big files or animations.
I'm not a gamer so no requirements for that.
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August 28, 2012 10:14:26 AM

Gigabyte UD3H Z77
Intel Xeon E3 1230 V2 (cheaper and supports hyperthreading and PCIe 3.0)
16 GB G Skill Ares 1600
Corsair 400R
Corsair TX650
Quadro 4000
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August 28, 2012 10:53:02 AM


INTEL XEON E1230 V2 3.30GHz (1155) NEW 7900 baht

GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H 5350 baht

G.SKILL DDR3 16XM/1600 (8GB x 2) CL 9-9-9 NEW 4900 baht
or
CORSAIR VENGEANCE 16GB (8X2) 1600 MHz CL10 3990 baht

CORSAIR CARBIDE 400R 2750 baht

CORSAIR TX650M 3090 baht

QUADRO 4000 2 GB GDDR5 256BIT 256 Cores 3Y. 31800 baht

WD 10 EZRX 1 TB SATA III 64 MB GREEN 2-Y 2790 baht


Price 58580 baht , within budget.

Which Memory would you prefer of the 2x8gb? Would 4x8gb ram be a huge difference in performance?
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August 28, 2012 8:00:46 PM

2X8 GB

yes ram make s a difference
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August 29, 2012 6:55:01 AM

Another setup by a friend, what do you think guys? Also in price range



CORE i7 3930K LGA2011 3.20 GHz L3 12MB (6C/12T) 130W Unlock 19300
ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA2011 X79 8D.DDR3 Q.CF/3W.SLI U3S3 PCIe 3.0 BT 9490
GIGABYTE GTX660 Ti OC 2GB GDDR5 192BIT 1032MHz/6008MHz PCI-E 3.0 10900
WD 1002 FAEX 1 TB SATA III 64 MB BLACK 5-Y 3650
CORSAIR VENGEANCE 16GB (8X2) 1600 MHz CL10 3990
psu CORSAIR AX1200 9100
case COOLERMASTER 690 II ADVANCE USB3 3300
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August 29, 2012 11:50:29 AM

chillem said:
Another setup by a friend, what do you think guys? Also in price range



CORE i7 3930K LGA2011 3.20 GHz L3 12MB (6C/12T) 130W Unlock 19300
ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA2011 X79 8D.DDR3 Q.CF/3W.SLI U3S3 PCIe 3.0 BT 9490
GIGABYTE GTX660 Ti OC 2GB GDDR5 192BIT 1032MHz/6008MHz PCI-E 3.0 10900
WD 1002 FAEX 1 TB SATA III 64 MB BLACK 5-Y 3650
CORSAIR VENGEANCE 16GB (8X2) 1600 MHz CL10 3990
psu CORSAIR AX1200 9100
case COOLERMASTER 690 II ADVANCE USB3 3300

What that will give you is decent gaming capability, but thought you didn't want that. The 3930K is a good processor for high end video work, but probably wouldn't gain you anything elsewhere. As I don't have a detailed knowledge of xeon performance, I'm not sure the 3930K would even be BETTER, for video. What you would LOSE, is the compute ability, and durability of Quadro
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August 29, 2012 12:05:23 PM

The one thing I would suggest you might change in the earlier Xeon build, you may be better with a larger, faster hard drive.
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August 29, 2012 1:11:47 PM

malbluff said:
The one thing I would suggest you might change in the earlier Xeon build, you may be better with a larger, faster hard drive.



CORE i7 3930K this processor has 6 cores and 12 threads, doesnt this mean it will render faster normally? Or am I getting this wrong?
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August 29, 2012 8:50:06 PM

chillem said:
CORE i7 3930K this processor has 6 cores and 12 threads, doesnt this mean it will render faster normally? Or am I getting this wrong?

Certainly, comparing 3930 with 3770, some processes, with software able to actually use 6core12thread, will be faster. This is not the whole story, however, as the compute power of the graphics card, also plays a part. Overall, a combination of 3770K and Quadro4000 would beat 3990K and GTX660Ti on almost any calculation heavy graphic tasks. I presume that swapping the 3770K, with the Xeon, would be at least as good, probably even better. It's just that I don't have adequate knowledge of the Xeon, to quantify that.
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August 29, 2012 9:04:15 PM

I got a 3930k for these perposes.
I can strongly recomend it.. Vray loves it... Its easy to overclock for big speed gains. 25-30%
On asus rampage extreme even a 10 year old can clock it to 4700 mhz useing a noctua d-14 cooler.

If your not useing cuda in iray or work 99% in autocad. I would go for a high end gtx card. I think quadros are way overated. Add more gtxes instead.
If you want quite go for a low noice gtx and a cosmos 2 case.

The asus rampage extreme and the cosmos 2 case gives you some of the best upgradeing options in the future. Furthermore Intel prommised a substantial upgrade end of 2013 for the lga2011 socket.
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August 30, 2012 3:33:48 AM

I think I will go with this option:
CORE i7 3930K LGA2011 3.20 GHz L3 12MB (6C/12T) 130W Unlock 19300
Rampage IV Extreme LGA2011 X79 8D.DDR3 Q.CF/Q.SLI U3S3 PCIe 3.0 BT. ROG. 14500
GIGABYTE GTX660 Ti OC 2GB GDDR5 192BIT 1032MHz/6008MHz PCI-E 3.0 10900
WD 1002 FAEX 1 TB SATA III 64 MB BLACK 5-Y 3650
CORSAIR VENGEANCE 16GB (8X2) 1600 MHz CL10 3990
case COOLERMASTER 690 II ADVANCE USB3 3300

I will go with this graphic card for now, when I have some budget again for upgrading I might go for the Quadro instead.
What I just need to know more is what power supply would I need for all this. 850W enough? Any suggestions welcome
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August 30, 2012 10:20:19 AM

850 is definately enough for that setup and then some but personally I went with a 1250 watts.
In case nvidias Iray gets compatible with gtx 6 series I want to be able to fit 4 gtx cards for the cudas. But right now iray isnt ready. + we dont know how hungry the ib-e Q4 2013 will be.
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