Why richland?

[pit_1209]

Someone could explain me the reason of richland?

I mean, kaveri will be here at the end of the year and the perfomance gain from trinty to kaveri would looks better than from richland to kaveri.

 

[rds1220]

Someone could explain me the reason of richland?

I mean, kaveri will be here at the end of the year and the perfomance gain from trinty to kaveri would looks better than from richland to kaveri.

I'm pretty sure that Kaveri will be regular mainstream APU's while Richland will be ultra low power/low TDP similar to Intel Atoms.

 

[jaguarskx]

It is a Trinity tweaked APU. Basically increases clockspeed and also lowering power consumption. I think AMD's expectations are increased performance of around 30% for the iGPU core and 15% for the CPU while lowering power consumption. We'll have to wait and see though.

While this will be good for the desktop front, the obvious market segment is in laptops.

 

[pit_1209]

It is a Trinity tweaked APU. Basically increases clockspeed and also lowering power consumption. I think AMD's expectations are increased performance of around 30% for the iGPU core and 15% for the CPU while lowering power consumption. We'll have to wait and see though.

While this will be good for the desktop front, the obvious market segment is in laptops.

Ok but that´s the point of my question, the jaguar arquitecture isn´t supposed to deliver the perfomance for laptops? and if kaveri is here ths year why bring a tweaked "old" architecture back?

 

[noob2222]

If you have a test product that works quite well, do you:

A) shelve it for 6 months till the next test product is ready
B) sell it.

 

[pit_1209]

I´m referring to this

 

[pit_1209]

If you have a test product that works quite well, do you:

A) shelve it for 6 months till the next test product is ready
B) sell it.

You got a point but wouldn´t be better marketingwise the big improvement from trinity to kaveri?

 

[noob2222]

the problem is that kaveri is so drastically different, it could be delayed. From what I gather it will be made by TSMC on 28nm not GF, the first CPU from TSMC, and the first non-SOI. Who knows what the yields will be or how fast it will run. Likely they are just now (or soon) getting some prototype kaveri APUs back for internal testing.

This is why kaveri is 2H 2013, it could be as late as december if its on time.

 

[pit_1209]

the problem is that kaveri is so drastically different, it could be delayed. From what I gather it will be made by TSMC on 28nm not GF, the first CPU from TSMC, and the first non-SOI. Who knows what the yields will be or how fast it will run. Likely they are just now (or soon) getting some prototype kaveri APUs back for internal testing.

This is why kaveri is 2H 2013, it could be as late as december if its on time.

Ok but then you think that kaveri will be like they promised?

 

[noob2222]

The changes to steamroller core should in theory increase performance a pretty decent ammount, Id guess the gpu in kaveri will be roughly the same as the one in richland.

So with richland you get ~20-40% increase in gpu, then kaveri boosts cpu by ~10-20%.

clock speeds are going to be a big factor with TSMC's bulk 28nm. No idea what to expect there.

 

[jaguarskx]

I´m referring to this

http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/pit1209/APU-2013-roadmap2-portada_zpsb949ec2a.jpg

The last 2013 chart for AMD had no Kaveri on it. To the best of my knowledge it has been pushed back into 2014.

... and rumors as recent as Nov. 2012 suspects Kaveri has been cancelled. Doubtful, but that's the rumor.

Then again, I don't really follow AMD APU progress...

 

[pit_1209]

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[computaquark]

I noticed there was no Trinity MX, as there was with llano. MX APU's are usually an enhancement to a current line up. Seems to me Richland is essentially an MX version of Trinity or similar to a re stepped desktop part. Only difference seems to be there is no MX suffix but a complete rename instead.