My First Build

Rosewill Blackhawk Mid Tower
Rosewill Hive 650 Watt
Intel I3 2120
ASrock Z68 Pro3 Gen3 Motherboard
His IceQ X Radeon 7850
8GB G.Skill RipJaws
WD Caviar Blue 500GB 7200RPM
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Rev 2
Asus DVD Burner (cheapest Asus Dvd Burner)

$715

Alright so this is my first build. Now I do not plan on crossfire or really overclocking on this build. This is my first build to get me up and going and playing games with good or higher FPS even on the more higher end games. I have been doing a lot of research on everything I have bought. I'm just looking on what a random group of people will think of this build for a first timer like myself.

If you can suggest anything else that will keep the price range around this or up to $780 being probably the max I can manage financially.

Any an all impute will be much obliged.
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  1. Alright one quick change. The I3 is now a I5 2400.
  2. No Rosewill PSU get a corsair 430 instead because that's all the power you need for a 7850.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026&Tpk=corsair%20430w
    Best free PSU calculator
    http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

    Tomorrow I'll rework because it seems you should be able to get a better GPU for the money (I need sleep).

    What is max budget before/after rebates.
  3. Better build not that yours is bad it's actually quite decent accept you don't need a aftermarket cpu cooler for a non overclock cpu and you don't need a 650W PSU a reliable quality 500W/550W will be more than enough and leave you plenty of breathing room PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3450 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Asus P8H77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($115.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($46.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.50 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($80.98 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-222BB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($23.97 @ Newegg)
    Total: $790.40
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-28 21:56 EDT-0400)
  4. Are you sure 430 watt isn't to little. I will also be running 8 fans within that case, that and I may do some small overclocking to the i5 just to make it a tad faster. Maybe not to 4 ghz, but a slight bump.

    I'm not going cheaper on the case purely because the case is what I want to use for a very long time. I want the amount of fans I can put into this case as well as the flexibility of the inside of it.
  5. It's not an unlocked i5 thus no overclocking.

    Even with 8 fans you only are using about 314 watts so the 430 is more than enough.
    Did you even attempt to put your setup into the PSU calculator I posted (just wondering not trying to be a jerk).
    http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine
  6. The I5 2400 has a turbo boast that can allow it to go to 3.4 as well as I have heard people overclock this cpu to 4.0. Though, if you truly and honestly believe I can go down in power supply I wouldn't mind losing the extra power. Though it would be nice to have this for being partially modular and for upgrading the build as stated above.
  7. Just to assure you and set your mind at ease here is proof http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/amd-radeon-hd-7870-ghz-edition-radeon-hd-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands/17 http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9155/44653.png

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    Here is Guru3D's power supply recommendation:

    Radeon HD 7850 - On your average system the card requires you to have a 500 Watt power supply unit and 650 Watt if you go with two cards in Crossfire mode.


    If you are going to overclock the GPU or processor, then we do recommend you purchase something with some more stamina.Radeon HD 7850.
  8. I mean I do plan to do little to no overclocking with this system. I was just thinking also about long term with this computer not just short term. My price range wasn't just for being cheap but to make a build that can easily be upgraded as the years go on without having to repurchase new items to compensate for the change out of other parts.

    Edit: I guess I should really add in the factor that the combo with the Hive and the Case is 65 bucks. With the power supply being 89.99 I'm basically paying 24 bucks for that power supply.
  9. Astralman said:
    I mean I do plan to do little to no overclocking with this system. I was just thinking also about long term with this computer not just short term. My price range wasn't just for being cheap but to make a build that can easily be upgraded as the years go on without having to repurchase new items to compensate for the change out of other parts.

    Edit: I guess I should really add in the factor that the combo with the Hive and the Case is 65 bucks. With the power supply being 89.99 I'm basically paying 24 bucks for that power supply.
    That would be a good idea to add :lol: in that case i would get the combo ;)
  10. Alright. Then overall for a $793 (with shipping) first build, anything else about this build you would change? I have done a lot of work to get this build under 800 while giving it the best power I can.
  11. You don't need a aftermarket cpu cooler for a cpu that can't be overclocked so i would not buy that kinda a waste of money imo.The turbo boast is not really overclocking and stock cooler can handle that anyway otherwise intel would not include that feature with it's cpu and yet supply it with a stock heatsink
  12. I've heard ton's of negative things about stock heat sinks from fellow friends that have built computers. It was truly the only reason why I was going to get it. That and the I5 2400 has a turbo boast on it that can get the ghz to 3.4 from its 3.1. How is that different from overclocking?

    Sorry a bit of a novice in this area...ok I know nothing of this subject. lol.
  13. you're misunderstanding what Turbo Boost is?
    http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/cs-029908.htm
    Basically, if, for example, you have an i5, which defaults to 2.67GHz, and you run an application that does not use all 4 cores, but instead just one core, Turbo Boost will kick in and the one core the application uses will run at 3.2GHz. If you have an application that uses two cores, each core will run at 2.8GHz - 3.2GHz, dependent on demand. If you have an application that uses all four cores, then they will all run at the default 2.6GHz.

    This is separate from overclocking.Turbo Boost is dynamic
  14. Okay. See I had no idea. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

    Though I guess my next question is, are stock heatsink trustworthy? Its just that I've heard that are typically cheap and made to not last as long as they probably should. That it is safer to just buy a good Heatsink and fan to go along with your cpu.
  15. No problem your very welcome! I would agree that stock heatsinks are not as well built as aftermarket cpu coolers and yes temps would be better than a stock heatsink would provide however i would recommend you get this over your current choice CPU Cooler:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
  16. Get this ram instead of your current pick it's just as reliable and makes up for the extra cost of the cpu cooler switch RAM:Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT4G3D1609DS1S00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148544#top
  17. The cpu cooler is the same price. So whats the real difference between the ram's? I mean are the the exact same or does one do better than the other?
  18. Yeah they are the same the G.Skill RipJaws look cooler though imo lol
  19. Yeah. I guess for my combo the ripjaws are best so. Well I think I got all the answers I really needed. Thanks.
  20. Your welcome!Enjoy!
  21. Bumbing this real quick. Sorry was just wanting a few more thoughts.
  22. Just going to mess with your mind a bit with alternatives :P

    CPU - FX 8120 $160

    MOBO - ASRock Fatality 990FX $180
    MOBO - Gigabyte 990FXA UD3 $140
    MOBO - Gigabyte 970A UD3 $110

    PSU - XFX core edition pro 550w $75

    GPU- Sapphire Toxic Edition HD 7850 2GB $210
    GPU- MSI TwinFrozr Power Edition HD 7850 $220

    Its just alternatives the rest of the suggestions on components are good.
  23. I mean, If I really planned on overclocking I would most definitely get the FX 8120 but if it can't perform in gaming, I would rather pass. Though if it can keep up in games right with the i5 2400 I would get it just for being cheaper.

    My original build was a FX, but that was before doing a lot of research and the fx 8000 series of chips I know do compete well with the sandy bridges. I guess I will take your guy's opinions on that. Let the battle begin.
  24. First off I am a AMD user and I don't in any way shape or form make any assertions that AMD is a better choice but I will give you honest opinion being they I do freelance testing and overclocking on all Intel, AMD, Nvidia products.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/8

    1] In the single thread IPC sweepstakes AMD is about 15-20% slower than Intel.

    2] In gaming it hardly corrolates as much, in games using single thread or light threading there will be around a 5% difference between a 81XX and the 2500/2400 at stock clocks, in thread intensive games the 81XX can actually beat the 2500/2400 at stock clocks.

    3] Disabling cores 2-4-6-8 in bios and running the FX 81XX as a pure quad can see light threaded gains of up to 19% per core but you will sacrifice multithreaded performance by as high as 40%

    4] Why I don't recommend a FX, AMD are releasing Piledriver around November this year with AMD hitting its 15% increase in Perf/Core also it will feature resonant clock meshing to produce higher clocks at lower power. Its a case of a little late for Bulldozer now.

    All things considered you could build a FX81XX and 2500K with high end GPU and blind test it with avid professional gamers and they would not tell the difference. On a single 1920x1080 setup my 1100T with 7970 hits 65 FPS on BF3 with Ultra settings and 16x MSAA which is as stressing as it comes, the FX 8120 is around 62-63FPS and a 2500K around 70-72FPS.
  25. Problems I have noted with the FX 81XX, Crossfiring 7970's needs you to overclock to around 4.8ghz to get past the CPU bottleneck, the 2500K around 3.8ghz is enough. At stock clocks I was only able to go as high as GTX 580 level SLI (7870 CFX) without any bottlenecking but considering these are GPU's well out your affordabilty bracket now a FX 81XX will take a CFX solution of HD 7850's at stock clock without any issues.
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