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Computer Designed for 3D Modellings (SolidWorks)

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August 29, 2012 6:46:12 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: (£550-650) After Rebates; Before Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Programmes called SolidWorks, Product Design, 3D Modelling and Photoshop

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: None

Location: England/Kent

Parts Preferences: None, but prefer Intel

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Not too bothered by anything, I just want it to render well!

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Taking my profession to the next level.


Here is my initial list, please comment!

CPU
Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/349029

CPU Fan
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 Socket 775, 1156, 1155, 1366, AM2, AM3 Heatpipe CPU Cooler
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157

GPU
Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI FAN PCI-E Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/345289

MotherBoard
Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H Socket 1155 VGA DVI HDMI 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/351598

RAM
G-Skill 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz RipjawsZ X79 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/319758

DVD Drive
Samsung SH-222BB 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/342873

Case & Power
Coolermaster Centurion 5 II SPECIAL EDITION Case with Red Interior - With Coolermaster 650W GX PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/250952

Hard Drive
WD 2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s Caviar Green Hard Drive - 64MB Cache - WD20EARX
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264274



Any help will be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance

August 30, 2012 12:22:32 AM

In most respects your build is OK. Your power supply is a bit oversized (unless you're planning to add something to system, that needs it). 500W, or at most 550W. Too large a power supply will run inefficiently, most of the time.
The big issue is with GPU. With respect, the 550Ti is pretty useless. The problem is, having checked with system requirements, for a suitable alternative, I find that only workstation graphics are approved. If you have their software, they may be able to suggest an alternative, but I can't really recommend a card that is not certified/recommended.
August 30, 2012 12:51:56 AM

jaywalker999 said:
Approximate Purchase Date: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: (£550-650) After Rebates; Before Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Programmes called SolidWorks, Product Design, 3D Modelling and Photoshop

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: None

Location: England/Kent

Parts Preferences: None, but prefer Intel

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Not too bothered by anything, I just want it to render well!

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Taking my profession to the next level.


Here is my initial list, please comment!

CPU
Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/349029

CPU Fan
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 Socket 775, 1156, 1155, 1366, AM2, AM3 Heatpipe CPU Cooler
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157

GPU
Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI FAN PCI-E Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/345289

MotherBoard
Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H Socket 1155 VGA DVI HDMI 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/351598

RAM
G-Skill 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz RipjawsZ X79 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/319758

DVD Drive
Samsung SH-222BB 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/342873

Case & Power
Coolermaster Centurion 5 II SPECIAL EDITION Case with Red Interior - With Coolermaster 650W GX PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/250952

Hard Drive
WD 2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s Caviar Green Hard Drive - 64MB Cache - WD20EARX
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264274



Any help will be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance


Dont use a 550ti, those are desktop graphics, if your doing 3D modeling, your going to need bandwidth not power.

Look toward a Nvidia Quadro OR ATI FireGL.

They dont have as much power ( depending on the card) But the can push MASS amounts of data and pixels.

Thier not designed for gaming, but great for 3D design applications.
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August 30, 2012 11:16:22 AM

Ok, I was under the impression that I needed more processing power over graphic power? Would it be better if I got a less expensive processor and bought a better graphics card? I'll have a look at the Quadro and FireGL
August 30, 2012 12:07:24 PM

Problem is, you really need both. With a lot of software, of this type, a decent "Fermi" graphics card, with an i5 processor, is a fairly good solution, provided the system, is not going to be required to work, at full load, for extended periods. Unfortunately, as Solidworks don't recommend that, it's difficult for anyone else to, for their software. If you speak to Solidworks "support", and they say that is acceptable, fine. Otherwise, you should try to stick with i5, and try to afford a Quadro, or Firepro, even if that means getting a fairly basic one. If you don't, and then have some issue with the software, Solidworks are likely to be "unhelpful". You may have driver issues,with that as well. They are not going to update drivers, for cards they don't approve.
August 30, 2012 12:21:58 PM

jaywalker999 said:
Approximate Purchase Date: this week (the closer the better)

Budget Range: (£550-650) After Rebates; Before Shipping

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Programmes called SolidWorks, Product Design, 3D Modelling and Photoshop

Are you buying a monitor: No

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: None

Location: England/Kent

Parts Preferences: None, but prefer Intel

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Not too bothered by anything, I just want it to render well!

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: Taking my profession to the next level.


Here is my initial list, please comment!

CPU
Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/349029

CPU Fan
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro rev 2 Socket 775, 1156, 1155, 1366, AM2, AM3 Heatpipe CPU Cooler
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176157

GPU
Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI FAN PCI-E Graphics Card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/345289

MotherBoard
Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H Socket 1155 VGA DVI HDMI 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/351598

RAM
G-Skill 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1866MHz RipjawsZ X79 Memory Kit CL9 1.5V
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/319758

DVD Drive
Samsung SH-222BB 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/342873

Case & Power
Coolermaster Centurion 5 II SPECIAL EDITION Case with Red Interior - With Coolermaster 650W GX PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/250952

Hard Drive
WD 2TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s Caviar Green Hard Drive - 64MB Cache - WD20EARX
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264274



Any help will be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance


Got something for ya:

CPU: Intel Core i7-2700K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£215.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£88.28 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.79 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.41 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V5900 2GB Video Card (£341.32 @ Dabs)
Case: BitFenix Outlaw ATX Mid Tower Case (£39.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £827.73

*i did not picked an i7 3770k because its only 5% faster than the 2700k (clock per clock) and was almost 40GBPs more expensive than than the 2700k. the 3770k is not a good overclocker and runs hot (but the 2700k overclocks very well and it runs fairly cool)

*a professional grade GPU is a lot better for the kind of apps you will be using

*You will need an after market cooler to overclock your CPU

*Add a SSD later for speeding up everything.

*Buddy.... i know this build is a bit over your budget BUT... consider this as a small investment for your career, don't let a couple hundred GBPs stop you, ask someone for the extra money or something but BUY this build.
August 30, 2012 1:58:23 PM

idroid said:
Got something for ya:

CPU: Intel Core i7-2700K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£215.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£88.28 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.79 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£59.41 @ Scan.co.uk)
Video Card: ATI FirePro V5900 2GB Video Card (£341.32 @ Dabs)
Case: BitFenix Outlaw ATX Mid Tower Case (£39.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £827.73

*i did not picked an i7 3770k because its only 5% faster than the 2700k (clock per clock) and was almost 40GBPs more expensive than than the 2700k. the 3770k is not a good overclocker and runs hot (but the 2700k overclocks very well and it runs fairly cool)

*a professional grade GPU is a lot better for the kind of apps you will be using
Nice build, if OP can get his budget to go there. Problem I had was that their website appears to give no system recommendations, apart from "minimum" of Celeron plus A Quadro/FirePro. Highly helpful! Do we actually know it will use i7 (over i5)?

*You will need an after market cooler to overclock your CPU

*Add a SSD later for speeding up everything.

*Buddy.... i know this build is a bit over your budget BUT... consider this as a small investment for your career, don't let a couple hundred GBPs stop you, ask someone for the extra money or something but BUY this build.

August 30, 2012 6:51:32 PM

That looks like a really nice set up! I think realistically I'm going to have to up my budget.

I found this on the official SolidWorks website FAQ

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What is your current hardware recommendation for SolidWorks 2012?

We recommend the following hardware configuration for SolidWorks:

Windows 7 Professional x64
Intel Core i7
8 GB RAM (or more)
Min. 200 GB hard drive, 7200 RPM (dual HDDs in RAID 0 array for ultimate performance)
nVidia Quadro 2000 graphics card (these are considered mid-range)
nVidia Quadro 4000, 5000 or 6000 Graphics Card (for ultimate graphics performance)

High speed internet connection for downloading updates and Customer Portal access

If you are regularly performing FEA analysis with the SolidWorks Simulation family of products, we suggest upgrading your RAM to at least 12 GB and considering multi-CPUs processors (at least Quad core).
Shop online at the Javelin Web Store for SolidWorks Certified Graphics Cards: http://store.javelin-tech.com/Store-Catalog/SolidWorks-...

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So yeah, you are right (that's why I always come to Toms Hardware, total eye openers!)
I'll think over a rebuild (probably use most of the stuff idroid recommended) and see what you guys think

Thanks again
!