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Upgrading my graphics card + questions.

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July 11, 2012 2:57:53 PM

Okay so I'm looking to start streaming so I want to get a new gfx to do this my budget for the graphics card is about 400 euro/ 500$~ my current card is the HD Radeon 5750 and while I play games fine recording and streaming doesnt go so well. Im looking for suggestions from people for a good card that will allow me to easily stream/record Also I have a 3.7 Ghz 6 core cpu and that works fine, but the fan for it is horribly loud and I was wondering if it was possible to get a water cooling system and how much that would cost me. Any feedback/ links for any of my questions would be much appreciated. Also if there is another way of making the fan quieter / getting a quieter fan then let me know. Cheers :) 
a c 260 U Graphics card
July 11, 2012 3:13:29 PM

It is not clear to me why streaming should have any dependence on the graphics card.

But for gaming, the graphics card is the main determinant of performance, more so than the cpu.
With your budget, there really is nothing better than the GTX670, which goes for $400.
It is a HUGE jump over a 5750.

If you will be multitasking, make certain that you have sufficient ram. 6gb is OK, but 8gb or more would be better. Ram is cheap.

If you are using a stock cpu fan(What 6 core cpu do you have?) then it will be noisy as it spins up under load. It is the high rpm's that make the noise.

Replace it with a simple tower type cpu cooler with a slow turning 120m fan, and you will solve your problem.
The $30 cm hyper212 is fine.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you want the best, the Noctua NH-D14 is as good as it gets for $85 or so.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I do not much favor all in one liquid cooling solutions.
They are expensive, noisy, less reliable, and disrupt case airflow. They are no more effective than a good air cooler.
Remember that liquid cooling is still air cooling. The only difference is where the heat exchange takes place.
In a liquid cooler, you still need a fan to push air through the radiator.
a b U Graphics card
July 11, 2012 3:14:51 PM

a $400 gtx 670 is all you need. extra $100 for the gtx680 won't be worth it since its only 5% better than the gtx670. You can go for the hd7970 series but i think the nvidia cuda technology would help you for streaming. Get a gigabye windforce 3x, asus direct cu II or evga ftw edition of the gtx 670.

from experience, the corsair watercooling series is quite loud, your much better off with a coolermaster hyper 212 evo/ hyper 612s. Awesome cooler and quite as they come. I have the coolermaster hyper 612s and its by far the quietest cpu fan I have ever had, much quieter than corsair h80.
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July 11, 2012 3:38:32 PM

Thank you guys for the replies :)  Well when I stream the problem is the noise because you can hear it when watching the stream so it isnt so much the card there but when frapsing I run most of my games at max settings so the fps goes to ~20 while frapsing(from 60 of course)
the current cpu I have is the
Phenom II X6 1100T 'Black Edition' (3.3GHz, 125W, 3MB total dedicated L2 cache, 6MB L3 cache, 4000MHz HyperTransport bus, socket AM3)
Also I currently have 6gb of ram and I am now considering getting the GTX670 after your replies will this suffice ?
a c 260 U Graphics card
July 11, 2012 3:52:08 PM

By "frapsing" do you mean that you are recording the fraps info on a hard drive?

If so, you might want to add a hard drive or two so there is no interference among all the tasks.
One drive for your games, one for the fraps log, and one for the streaming data.

What sort of noise are you talking about?
July 11, 2012 4:00:44 PM

Yeah I havent frapsed in a while but when I did it was on to the hard drive. The noise is coming from the cpu fan, its too loud so when buying the new graphics card Ill buy a new fan aswell :)  Primarily I'm interested in streaming at the moment so buying another hard drive wouldnt really benefit me or am I wrong?
a c 260 U Graphics card
July 11, 2012 4:12:33 PM

Conchubar said:
Yeah I havent frapsed in a while but when I did it was on to the hard drive. The noise is coming from the cpu fan, its too loud so when buying the new graphics card Ill buy a new fan aswell :)  Primarily I'm interested in streaming at the moment so buying another hard drive wouldnt really benefit me or am I wrong?


Fan noise comes from high rpm fans.
If you are using the stock cpu cooler and fan, you would eliminate most of that noise with a cpu cooler that uses a larger slower turning fan.

A $30 cm hyper212 is very effective using a 120mm fan.
For the best, look at the $85 Noctua NH-D14 which uses a 140mm fan. Noctua fans are about the best ans quietest fans around.
They come with low noise adapters, allowing you to trade off fan noise with cooling.
a c 260 U Graphics card
July 11, 2012 4:26:40 PM

Conchubar said:
Cheers for the reply, here's what I'm going to go for I think:
Graphics Card: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-Nvidia-GeForce-DirectCU-Gr...

Fan: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Noctua-NH-D14-Processor-cooler-...


The ASUS Is a huge triple slot card which may pose some mounting issues.
I think I would look at the EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR instead.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-02G-P4-2678-KR-Cores-1084M...

The card is actually a bit faster (boost clock of 1084 vs. 980)
July 11, 2012 4:57:18 PM

Cheers for the reply yes I just realised it would :p  going to go for the above mentioned now, thanks for the help.
a b U Graphics card
July 12, 2012 1:04:28 AM

Nope the Asus one is NOT a tripple slot card, it is a dual slot card and one of the best ones out there( I have got 2 of these on a small matx mobo). The biggest advantage of Asus direct cu II is its got the quietest fans, much quieter than any other gtx 670s. And you can easily overclock it to the clocks of the top models with Asus gpu tweak( that's what I did with my set up). I'd get the Asus one since with a little bit of tweaking, you can have a gpu that would even beat the gtx 680s. Look at these references-

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...

The evga one Conchubar suggested only has reference coolers. I don't think it'd be wise of you to go for that since you have to deal with more heat and noise and less overclock potential. For that price, the Asus one would be your best choice. Or you can have this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-1xDVI-I-1xDVI-D-1xHDMI...

At any rate, there is no point of spending more for a reference designed gpu.



July 18, 2012 10:17:34 AM

Thanks for the reply, but I downloaded the one above and it said it was for the gtx 690 and when I went to install that one it wasn't comapatible and didn't install.
a b U Graphics card
July 18, 2012 10:22:07 AM

Make sure to apply the latest patch in Diablo III as it came out a few days ago, that could resolve your issue.
July 18, 2012 10:32:59 AM

I have also done this as I wouldn't be able to play without it, I'm also having a problem where I can only set my screen resolution to 1680x1050 and when I set it to 1920x1080 the bottom of my screen is cut off.




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