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having just spent 900 pounds on a new pc
for myself, i hadnt banked on my wife wanting a new
one to be able to play guildwars 2. this time im on a tight
budget. this is what i have so far

http://www.ebuyer.com/287683-amd-fx-4-4100-black-editio...
£80.52inc. vat

http://www.ebuyer.com/272944-seagate-500gb-barracuda-in...
£44.99inc. vat

ATX Case 450W 2720D Galaxy III
£ 34.00 Inc VAT

this covers the basics. case/cpu/hd/

mobo im unsure about mobo, need something that will run
a bulldozer 4100 95 watts around 40/45 pounds
any ideas ?

memory, i have a spare 4 gig stick of ddr 3 1600
that will do for now, i can add more later.

total cost at the moment is

cpu 80 pounds
hard drive 45 pounds 500 gig sata 3
case 35 pounds.
mobo aprox 45.
4 gig memory i have that.

need advice also on 2 final things, remember for now im
on a strict budget, but i can change things later or add more.

gpu - 100 pounds or less - best ideas ?
and a psu to support the whole lot.


ty guys, ps tool all your ideas to build my own new pc
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last question , been reading google watching you tube
and it does appear the hd 6850 is 27% than the gtx 550ti

my last question is this
as the hd 6850 is aprox 90 pounds

and this 1 is 103 pounds which i can afford
VTX3D ATI Radeon HD 7770 1GB X-Edition PCi-Ex

which of the 2 is better and will a 500w psu still
be ok

You need update the MB's BIOS to support FX 4100.

For the PSU, when you buy the PS and you want to know 1) what GPU do you buy? the PSU depend on the it requirements like the Amps. 2) The PSU is 80+ or not. The 80+ mean it has more than 80% energy efficiency at 20%, 50% and 100% of rated load. Otherwise some of them is misleading power supply advertising. 3) reliability. Because the PSU is the heart of the PC. 4) try to find the review. etc.

For the CX 430, I add the link you can see it can maximum load to over 500W. Other one Antec High Current Gamer 400W can load up to 497W. I can't find the review for CX500w, but I think it should be fine.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon...
http://www.google.com/translate?langpair=de%7Cen&u=http...

For the GPU, HD6850 is better than the HD 7770 and HD6850 costs less.

id do the cheapest 6870 you can find... still the best bang for your buck gpu out there and its in your power range. Not sure on uk prices but on newegg Ive seen them as low as 140 US.

either way shes gonna like it! cheers!

well ide like to afford her more but as i spent alot on my new rig
cost is a factor. and as i dont wanna have to flash a bios to support
an fx chip can anyone recommend a mobo what will run it without a flash
from this selection of boards, upto 45 pounds please .
http://www.web-systems.co.uk/?page=Products&gid=4

and also recommend 1 from ebuyer as well around the same price
as im building up 2 price lists, 1 from ebuyer - 1 from my local store
ebuyer will be slightly cheeper but i will ask my local store, if they can
beat there price ille buy from you .

and im gonna assume this psu will cover her needs with this current
system spec
http://www.ebuyer.com/278634-corsair-500w-cx-v2-psu-cmp...

fx-4-4100-black-edition -4-core-3-6ghz
samsung-sh-222bb-sata-dvd-write-optical-drive-oem-sh-222bb-bebe
Seagate 500GB Barracuda
4 gig ripjawx 1600
ATX Case Galaxy III
amd 6850

need an honest opinion .. my local store who will build my pc have
said they have all the parts i want except 1 they dont stock, the psu.
the psu that you guys mentioned was this
http://www.ebuyer.com/278634-corsair-500w-cx-v2-psu-cmp...

my local store only has this
http://www.web-systems.co.uk/?page=Products&pid=6428

dilemma is, if i bring my own psu - i wont get a 5yr warranty on the
system build. options are buy the system that comes with generic 500w psu
that gets me a 5yr system warranty, then switch out
the psu at home. or will there custom psu run my system if i get it
from them

this 1
http://www.web-systems.co.uk/?page=Products&pid=6428

or take the system with cases power supply and switch it out
at home ?

please clarify - will this run the pc just as stable as the one you first mentioned ?
http://www.web-systems.co.uk/?page=Products&pid=6428

did some digging on the i3 2120 apparently the the phenom 965be is 2%
better than the i3 2120 and 14 pounds cheaper .

again dilemma - as this system is only for my wife to play guildwars 2
it should be ok right ? 965 is also better i think than 4100 fx

and with that leaves alot of room for a cheap upgrade later
to 970/980/900 - tri cores - fx - if they fix them

thoughts?

oh yeh remind me my local shop was selling mobos asus around
45 pounds, on there site, today there all gone only showing 2
at 65 pounds and 69 pounds.

question - do you buy all your parts from ebuyer save about 70 pounds
have the shop build it - cost 25 pounds - 50 saved. no warrenty

or pay the extra 70 on over priced parts from them to get the warrenty

Go for a 965 BE, much better than the FX 4100
And either get a Radeon 6850 or a 6870,

A 500w Power supply will do nicely, try go for a CX500 (I have the CX600 for my 965BE and 6870) Works perfectly.

Make sure you get an 80+ rating, believe me PSU is not something you want to cheap out on. If it goes it can take your whole system with it.

Also find a AM3+ Motherboard so its a little future proof

jammo2002uk said:
these are looking almost done for the specs of her system
with the funds i have available . dvd rom is dropped in place
of taking 1 out of her machine to go in this 1. case also not listed
as the 1 i want at 35 pounds isnt on ebuyer were looking at a total
cost of 370 pounds for the full system.. appreciate comments

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If you want a cheap case go with the CiT Vantage Midi Mesh, it already comes with 4 case fans so no need to buy others, however if you plan on getting a heatsink other than the stock one, the TX3 fits fine but the Hyper 212+ or Evo will have trouble fitting in that case.
+the case is only £30

Here is labor day 2012 ( I am in USA).

Back to your question.

Case is personal choice item, but you better have some functions like UBS 3.0 port, PUS can be bottom mounted, top fan, real fan (at less 120mm), advanced cable management, side window if you like, and also is nice come w/ fans. I add the link for example. http://www.ebuyer.com/205154-casecom-km-6988-black-mid-...

All your parts look nice, and like buddiLuva said get the CPU cooler if you find the 965 run hot.

And finally I always buy the parts and build myself ( before I don't know how, but you can learn it online), or in your case buy your parts and have the shop build it, because the shop will do the test before hand the PC to you, right?

I recommend other CPU cooler, because the Arctic 7pro is not good one. I usually use the 120mm CPU cooler.

Take this one for $19 pounds, and it has air flow 70CFM with five sintered wick copper heatpipes: http://www.ebuyer.com/368869-glacialtech-f101-pwm-ad-f1...

And the review is here: http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=247...

You can see the Arctic is bottom one, the F101PWM is on the top list, and it will keep the CPU cool and last longer.
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