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August 29, 2012 8:55:19 PM

ps parts must come from ebuyer.com as its uk delivery

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August 29, 2012 8:56:59 PM

having just spent 900 pounds on a new pc
for myself, i hadnt banked on my wife wanting a new
one to be able to play guildwars 2. this time im on a tight
budget. this is what i have so far

http://www.ebuyer.com/287683-amd-fx-4-4100-black-editio...
£80.52inc. vat

http://www.ebuyer.com/272944-seagate-500gb-barracuda-in...
£44.99inc. vat

ATX Case 450W 2720D Galaxy III
£ 34.00 Inc VAT

this covers the basics. case/cpu/hd/

mobo im unsure about mobo, need something that will run
a bulldozer 4100 95 watts around 40/45 pounds
any ideas ?

memory, i have a spare 4 gig stick of ddr 3 1600
that will do for now, i can add more later.

total cost at the moment is

cpu 80 pounds
hard drive 45 pounds 500 gig sata 3
case 35 pounds.
mobo aprox 45.
4 gig memory i have that.

need advice also on 2 final things, remember for now im
on a strict budget, but i can change things later or add more.

gpu - 100 pounds or less - best ideas ?
and a psu to support the whole lot.


ty guys, ps tool all your ideas to build my own new pc
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August 29, 2012 11:02:49 PM

let her play on the nice one ;)  it might work out better for you.
August 29, 2012 11:21:49 PM

Make sure you get one that will work in the kitchen and is battery operated
August 29, 2012 11:22:46 PM

ide love to but with just spending 900 pounds on my new
pc and hd monitor and Christmas around the corner
im thinking keep it simple with upgrades in the future

i forgot to mention her monitor will be
http://www.ebuyer.com/387133-samsung-s24b300hl-led-lcd-...

the hd6580 req 500 psu ... would the 2 psu's you posted
430 / 500 both run it ?
August 30, 2012 12:03:08 AM

last question , been reading google watching you tube
and it does appear the hd 6850 is 27% than the gtx 550ti

my last question is this
as the hd 6850 is aprox 90 pounds

and this 1 is 103 pounds which i can afford
VTX3D ATI Radeon HD 7770 1GB X-Edition PCi-Ex

which of the 2 is better and will a 500w psu still
be ok
August 30, 2012 12:30:15 AM

I'm lucky my wife only knows how to play temple run. :) 

with regards to gpu selection, i would choose the 6850.
August 30, 2012 4:28:21 AM

You need update the MB's BIOS to support FX 4100.

For the PSU, when you buy the PS and you want to know 1) what GPU do you buy? the PSU depend on the it requirements like the Amps. 2) The PSU is 80+ or not. The 80+ mean it has more than 80% energy efficiency at 20%, 50% and 100% of rated load. Otherwise some of them is misleading power supply advertising. 3) reliability. Because the PSU is the heart of the PC. 4) try to find the review. etc.

For the CX 430, I add the link you can see it can maximum load to over 500W. Other one Antec High Current Gamer 400W can load up to 497W. I can't find the review for CX500w, but I think it should be fine.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon...
http://www.google.com/translate?langpair=de%7Cen&u=http...

For the GPU, HD6850 is better than the HD 7770 and HD6850 costs less.
August 30, 2012 5:49:49 AM

id do the cheapest 6870 you can find... still the best bang for your buck gpu out there and its in your power range. Not sure on uk prices but on newegg Ive seen them as low as 140 US.

either way shes gonna like it! cheers!

August 31, 2012 3:26:30 AM

well ide like to afford her more but as i spent alot on my new rig
cost is a factor. and as i dont wanna have to flash a bios to support
an fx chip can anyone recommend a mobo what will run it without a flash
from this selection of boards, upto 45 pounds please .
http://www.web-systems.co.uk/?page=Products&gid=4

and also recommend 1 from ebuyer as well around the same price
as im building up 2 price lists, 1 from ebuyer - 1 from my local store
ebuyer will be slightly cheeper but i will ask my local store, if they can
beat there price ille buy from you .

and im gonna assume this psu will cover her needs with this current
system spec
http://www.ebuyer.com/278634-corsair-500w-cx-v2-psu-cmp...

fx-4-4100-black-edition -4-core-3-6ghz
samsung-sh-222bb-sata-dvd-write-optical-drive-oem-sh-222bb-bebe
Seagate 500GB Barracuda
4 gig ripjawx 1600
ATX Case Galaxy III
amd 6850
August 31, 2012 4:01:52 AM

ps would you take tge fx 4100 at 81 pounds or the phenom 965black
its 2 pounds less but, from all accounts of what i read, the old 965
is a better performer, and better for games..yes no ?
August 31, 2012 1:56:28 PM

965 BE > FX 4100
August 31, 2012 2:59:50 PM

Yes, 965BE is better.

But after I look through the ebuyer.com, I found if you buy the Asus P8H61-MX +i3 2120 for 133 pounds. http://www.ebuyer.com/392930-asus-p8h61-mx-usb3-socket-... you check the review for the game, you can see the i3 is out-performance AMD. The cost will be about 12 pounds more you buy 965be+MB.

If you don't like intel, just forget about it.

August 31, 2012 3:21:14 PM

need an honest opinion .. my local store who will build my pc have
said they have all the parts i want except 1 they dont stock, the psu.
the psu that you guys mentioned was this
http://www.ebuyer.com/278634-corsair-500w-cx-v2-psu-cmp...

my local store only has this
http://www.web-systems.co.uk/?page=Products&pid=6428

dilemma is, if i bring my own psu - i wont get a 5yr warranty on the
system build. options are buy the system that comes with generic 500w psu
that gets me a 5yr system warranty, then switch out
the psu at home. or will there custom psu run my system if i get it
from them

this 1
http://www.web-systems.co.uk/?page=Products&pid=6428

or take the system with cases power supply and switch it out
at home ?
August 31, 2012 7:08:46 PM

I have the old model OCZ500SXS since 2009, so if you can get the 5yr system warranty. I think it is fine to get it.
September 1, 2012 1:07:49 AM

please clarify - will this run the pc just as stable as the one you first mentioned ?
http://www.web-systems.co.uk/?page=Products&pid=6428

did some digging on the i3 2120 apparently the the phenom 965be is 2%
better than the i3 2120 and 14 pounds cheaper .

again dilemma - as this system is only for my wife to play guildwars 2
it should be ok right ? 965 is also better i think than 4100 fx

and with that leaves alot of room for a cheap upgrade later
to 970/980/900 - tri cores - fx - if they fix them

thoughts?

oh yeh remind me my local shop was selling mobos asus around
45 pounds, on there site, today there all gone only showing 2
at 65 pounds and 69 pounds.

question - do you buy all your parts from ebuyer save about 70 pounds
have the shop build it - cost 25 pounds - 50 saved. no warrenty

or pay the extra 70 on over priced parts from them to get the warrenty
September 1, 2012 10:08:20 PM

these are looking almost done for the specs of her system
with the funds i have available . dvd rom is dropped in place
of taking 1 out of her machine to go in this 1. case also not listed
as the 1 i want at 35 pounds isnt on ebuyer were looking at a total
cost of 370 pounds for the full system.. appreciate comments

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2567/seec.jpg
September 3, 2012 4:51:55 PM

these are looking almost done for the specs of her system
with the funds i have available . dvd rom is dropped in place
of taking 1 out of her machine to go in this 1. case also not listed
as the 1 i want at 35 pounds isnt on ebuyer were looking at a total
cost of 370 pounds for the full system.. appreciate comments

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2567/seec.jpg
September 3, 2012 11:22:23 PM

4 days no answer impressive
September 5, 2012 8:33:24 AM

Go for a 965 BE, much better than the FX 4100
And either get a Radeon 6850 or a 6870,

A 500w Power supply will do nicely, try go for a CX500 (I have the CX600 for my 965BE and 6870) Works perfectly.

Make sure you get an 80+ rating, believe me PSU is not something you want to cheap out on. If it goes it can take your whole system with it.

Also find a AM3+ Motherboard so its a little future proof
September 5, 2012 8:35:37 AM

jammo2002uk said:
these are looking almost done for the specs of her system
with the funds i have available . dvd rom is dropped in place
of taking 1 out of her machine to go in this 1. case also not listed
as the 1 i want at 35 pounds isnt on ebuyer were looking at a total
cost of 370 pounds for the full system.. appreciate comments

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2567/seec.jpg


If you want a cheap case go with the CiT Vantage Midi Mesh, it already comes with 4 case fans so no need to buy others, however if you plan on getting a heatsink other than the stock one, the TX3 fits fine but the Hyper 212+ or Evo will have trouble fitting in that case.
+the case is only £30
September 5, 2012 4:37:18 PM

Here is labor day 2012 ( I am in USA).

Back to your question.

Case is personal choice item, but you better have some functions like UBS 3.0 port, PUS can be bottom mounted, top fan, real fan (at less 120mm), advanced cable management, side window if you like, and also is nice come w/ fans. I add the link for example. http://www.ebuyer.com/205154-casecom-km-6988-black-mid-...

All your parts look nice, and like buddiLuva said get the CPU cooler if you find the 965 run hot.

And finally I always buy the parts and build myself ( before I don't know how, but you can learn it online), or in your case buy your parts and have the shop build it, because the shop will do the test before hand the PC to you, right?
September 8, 2012 1:42:08 AM

Yes, the 965 will fix. MB supports FX / Phenom II / Athlon II / Sempron 100 Series (up to 140W).
September 8, 2012 3:32:11 PM

good to go then, you have been a great help mate ide +rep you but you dont have that system here, ty for the replys posts info ille update when its built .
a b B Homebuilt system
October 11, 2012 11:45:59 AM

personally i would go with gtx 560.
October 11, 2012 11:53:11 AM

thats all i wanna no with that psu support the gtx 560
instead of getting the radion 6850
the processor running with it is a boxed phenom 965 be
!